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Old Sep 2, 2017, 7:31 pm
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In 2017, at the first renewal of the 2016 Chase Sapphire Reserve card,* no retention offers have been forthcoming. It appears that Chase is not offering retention bonuses on this card at this time, and will cancel the card at the cardholders request without further ado.

*A retention offer has been reported (though it's minimal): https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28917524-post376.html

Posts 333 and 327 discuss a fee credit issued by Chase when cancelling the card. These have been called both "Annual Fee Refund" and "Membership Fee Credit."

This thread discusses the timing of both cancelling and product changing (downgrading to Sapphire Preferred) in order to 1) Keep from paying the $450 annual fee, and 2) possibly get a 2018 $300 travel credit before cancelling.

The rules changed for the travel credit on cards issued in May 2017, making the travel credit a calendar year issuance rather than a Dec statement to Dec Statement issuance.

The nuances discussed within this thread include changing your billing date, fees posting on the 1st of the month, and the 30 day window to cancel/60 day window to product change.


09/03/17 - 72k spend, no offer.
09/03/17 - 30k spend, no offer.
09/04/17 - 25k spend, no offer.
09/05/17 - 10k spend, no offer.
09/06/17 - 24k spend, no offer.
09/06/17 - Maybe 4-5K spend. No offer, closed.
09/06/17 - Spend unspecified, no offer.
09/07/17 - 10k spend, no offer.
09/12/17 - 15k annual spend, no offer, downgraded to Chase Freedom to preserve cl
09/18/17 - No offer.
09/22/17 - 25k spend, no offer.
09/29/17 - 17k spend, no offer.
10/02/17 - 64k spend, no offer.
10/10/17 - 16.5k, 2,500 point offer, declined.
10/13/17 - 165k, no offer.
10/13/17- No offer. ~$25k
10/21/17 - No offer, maybe $10k spend, transferred CL, cancelled.
03/02/18 - No offer, ~$13.5k spend
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Old Oct 13, 2017, 8:56 am
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Originally Posted by Statman
CSR is advertising a lower points bonus because they got killed by those who took the 100k bonus and then cut and run.

Not only that they reported that fewer cardmembers than expected have been paying financing charges, which is a way that issuers make a lot of their money. That's not surprising at all because most churners don't carry balances.
A $450 Annual Fee pretty much weeds out all the irresponsible people who can’t pay off their monthly balances...
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Old Oct 13, 2017, 9:38 am
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I had about 12k mostly travel/dining. As I expected, no offer. Kept.
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Old Oct 13, 2017, 1:39 pm
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Applied last August, cancel today 10/13. ~25k spend.

1) No fee waiver or fee credits credits offered
2) No ultimate reward "bonus" points offered
3) -
4) They offered to downgrade. My wife already has CSP so I'm going to cancel her's next month and I will apply for CSP - it's been 23 months since my last CSP bonus and I will have my wife apply for CSR.

BTW - my entire credit line was moved to my Freedom and Ink cards.

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Old Oct 13, 2017, 1:57 pm
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Originally Posted by Speedy5310
Applied last August, cancel today 10/13. ~25k spend.

1) No fee waiver or fee credits credits offered
2) No ultimate reward "bonus" points offered
3) -
4) They offered to downgrade. My wife already has CSP so I'm going to cancel her's next month and I will apply for CSP - it's been 23 months since my last CSP bonus

BTW - my entire credit line was moved to my Freedom and Ink cards.
The new rule is 24 months since your last Sapphire card bonus. So you won't get the CSP until 24 months after your received your CSR bonus.
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Old Oct 13, 2017, 2:45 pm
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Originally Posted by Speedy5310
Applied last August, cancel today 10/13. ~25k spend.

1) No fee waiver or fee credits credits offered
2) No ultimate reward "bonus" points offered
3) -
4) They offered to downgrade. My wife already has CSP so I'm going to cancel her's next month and I will apply for CSP - it's been 23 months since my last CSP bonus and I will have my wife apply for CSR.

BTW - my entire credit line was moved to my Freedom and Ink cards.
How were you able to move your Reserve credit line to your Ink card? I've asked a few times and was always told that they couldn't do it.
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Old Oct 13, 2017, 4:42 pm
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Old Oct 13, 2017, 7:59 pm
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Originally Posted by Diplomatico
The new rule is 24 months since your last Sapphire card bonus. So you won't get the CSP until 24 months after your received your CSR bonus.
His wife could not get the CSR either unless her CSP was applied more than 2 years ago.
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Old Oct 13, 2017, 8:00 pm
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Originally Posted by Speedy5310
Applied last August, cancel today 10/13. ~25k spend.

1) No fee waiver or fee credits credits offered
2) No ultimate reward "bonus" points offered
3) -
4) They offered to downgrade. My wife already has CSP so I'm going to cancel her's next month and I will apply for CSP - it's been 23 months since my last CSP bonus and I will have my wife apply for CSR.

BTW - my entire credit line was moved to my Freedom and Ink cards.
Not going to happen. Chase put in a new rule on August 27 to prevent people doing exactly what you are planning to do.
You would not even be able to get another Sapphire card even without bonus unless your previous Sapphire bonus was obtained more than 24 months ago.
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Old Oct 14, 2017, 8:27 am
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I'm one of the people keeping the card. We have 3 of these in the family, and will keep 2 CSR's and downgrade one for the least active traveler in the family. I don't get enough benefit from the Sapphire Preferred to be worth the downgrade for only $50. It's just too easy to get the $300 travel credit on the CSR, with no hoops to jump through. The Priority Pass access is great once you're in the clubs, and, although this feature has disappointed me sometimes, it's still very useful when it works, which for us is about 80/20.
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Old Oct 14, 2017, 10:10 am
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Originally Posted by StartinSanDiego
I'm one of the people keeping the card. We have 3 of these in the family, and will keep 2 CSR's and downgrade one for the least active traveler in the family. I don't get enough benefit from the Sapphire Preferred to be worth the downgrade for only $50. It's just too easy to get the $300 travel credit on the CSR, with no hoops to jump through. The Priority Pass access is great once you're in the clubs, and, although this feature has disappointed me sometimes, it's still very useful when it works, which for us is about 80/20.
We have 2 and will keep 2.
My wife called Thursday about retention just to see if they would do anything. It was a no go, but to down grade to CSP for less benefits just didn't make sense to us. We usually have the $300 back in the 1st month or 2. Most of our spend is on dining and travel so the extra 1 UR makes it a wash, and goes and PP are a plus.
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Old Oct 14, 2017, 10:51 am
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Originally Posted by StartinSanDiego
...will keep 2 CSR's....
Originally Posted by jjmiller69
We have 2 and will keep 2.
....
What is the case for keeping two Reserve cards rather than pairing Reserve with Citi Prestige, American Express Platinum or one of the me too cards from smaller issuers?
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Old Oct 14, 2017, 11:10 am
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Instead of keeping 2 CSR cards in the family isn't it better to downgrade 1 and add that person as AU to the other? It costs $75 instead of $150.
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Old Oct 14, 2017, 1:23 pm
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I called & downgraded within 60 days of the fee charged to Freedom card but the $450 fee is still not removed as promised and it is showing as due. I called today again and the supervisor says it can take 1 to 2 billing cycles to have the AF removed! Is this really true? takes 30 to 60 days?

I told her to write me a letter saying the AF will be removed and there will be no late or interest fee on the AF that is still showing as due and I wrote her name!

I canceled because even though the card itself is good the travel benefit dept (eclaimsline) is a total fraud and Chase Execs refused to help me! I didn't have time to take them to court for $200 travel cancelation reimbursement but I promised myself to shut down the card when fee comes.
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Old Oct 14, 2017, 2:24 pm
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Originally Posted by 9thSense
Instead of keeping 2 CSR cards in the family isn't it better to downgrade 1 and add that person as AU to the other? It costs $75 instead of $150.
Travel credit on each card, some would say...

...but don't take it from me since I downgraded Ms Ekeko's to Chase Freedom while retaining my CSR.
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Old Oct 14, 2017, 2:42 pm
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Originally Posted by EkekoBWI
Travel credit on each card,...
That's a refund of your own money, and it's already taken into account comparing the net cost of Sapphire Reserve (450-300=$150) to the cost of an Authorized User ($75).
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