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This thread--a continuation of previous discussions through May 2015 and December 2016--focuses on general Chase policies & practices for new applications. For information on specific Chase cards and their bonuses/terms/benefits, see the following threads and their associated wikis: Table of Contents
  1. Does Chase have a limit on the number or frequency of applications like Citi's 8/65 rule?

  2. What's this I hear about Chase denying applications to people who have recently opened a lot of credit cards?

  3. Does the 5/24 rule apply to applications for all Chase cards?

  4. How does Chase calculate the number of an applicant's new cards for purposes of the 5/24 rule?

  5. How does Chase calculate the relevant 24-month period? By calendar months? By exact days?

  6. Can I get around the 5/24 policy by closing cards I've opened in the past 24 months?

  7. Is there any way around the 5/24 policy (targeted mailers, pre-approvals, Chase Private Client status)?

  8. Can I apply for a specific Chase card and earn the bonus again after doing so previously?

  9. I'm an authorized user for a card issued to my spouse/parent. Does that prevent me from signing up for the same card and earning a bonus?

  10. I already have several Chase cards with a substantial aggregate line of credit. Will it improve my odds if I close an existing account (or lower its credit line) before applying for another?

  11. I wasn't auto-approved. Should I call in?

  12. How can I determine the deadline for meeting the spend requirement to earn the signup bonus?

  13. Once I meet the card's spend requirement, how soon will I receive my signup bonus points?

  14. Should I downgrade or cancel my existing cards before applying?

  15. Useful Chase telephone numbers

Does Chase have a limit on the number or frequency of applications like Citi's 8/65 rule?
Chase does not have a known limit. However, several reports (for example) indicate that Chase is highly sensitive to multiple applications within a short time period, and that the second (or subsequent) applications run a substantial risk of being denied. In many cases, this is likely related to Chase's practice of allocating a large credit line (up to an applicant's personal maximum) when approving a new card such as the first application in a series. (See also the discussion below concerning aggregate Chase credit lines.)

What's this I hear about Chase denying applications to people who have recently opened a lot of credit cards?
Starting in May 2015, Chase began denying applications for its own personal cards (e.g., Sapphire Preferred, Freedom, Slate & Freedom Unlimited) if the applicant's credit report shows that she or he opened 5 or more credit cards with any card issuer in the prior 24 months ("the 5/24 rule").

For a few days in early September 2016, Chase included explicit language ("You will not be approved for this card if you have opened 5 or more bank cards in the past 24 months") on the application page for the Sapphire Reserve card--and then promptly removed it. The absence of this language on landing/application pages for the CSR or any other Chase card is not a reliable indicator of whether the 5/24 policy applies.

See the next section for co-branded cards exempt from the 5/24 policy, and the later section discussing potential ways around 5/24.

Does the 5/24 rule apply to applications for all Chase cards?
Previously the rule did not apply to applications for the Ink Plus business card or to co-branded cards such as United, Hyatt, IHG, etc. However, on May 22, 2016 Chase extended its 5/24 rule to cover Ink business cards and some co-branded cards. (Note that there were premature reports that Chase Ink Plus would be made subject to the rule in March 2016 (which did not happen), and that all co-branded cards would follow in April 2016 (also did not happen).)

Although we had numerous reports of applications prior to May 22 being denied for a United/Hyatt/IHG/WN card by a CSR citing the 5/24 rule, the available evidence strongly suggested that those applicants had other serious issues--multiple Chase applications in a short period; large existing Chase credit line--and that overzealous CSRs gratuitously (and erroneously) invoked the 5/24 rule in the past as an additional supposed justification for the denial. Thus, it is difficult to separate such false positives from any change in Chase policy.

Instead, the most useful data points are those where an applicant is approved for a Chase card despite being over 5/24. Since May 22, 2016, we have such reports for these co-branded cards (in order from oldest to newest for each card):
For a longer list of cards apparently not subject to 5/24, check this link:
In November 2018, Chase seems to have possibly expanded 5/24 to more cards, possibly including some mentioned above. See this link:
Please follow discussion in the thread for current updates.

How does Chase calculate the number of an applicant's new cards for purposes of the 5/24 rule?
The 24-month count includes personal cards opened at other banks, and even cards on which the applicant is only an authorized user and not the primary cardholder. Chase has been extremely inflexible with this policy, with agents stating that there is nothing they can do to circumvent this restriction. However, in some cases Chase may reconsider a denial if the applicant has <5 new cards excluding cards on which s/he is an authorized user. You may need to escalate to the next level of customer service agent, as many front-line agents seem to be unable or unwilling to remove the authorized user accounts from the count.

Note:

How does Chase calculate the relevant 24-month period? By calendar months? By exact days?
In February 2017, a FTer reported a successful application a day or two after dropping from 5/24 to 4/24. However, because Chase sometimes approves applicants who are at 5/24 exactly (see above), this data point does not conclusively prove that Chase drops cards from its calculation on the exact 24-month anniversary of the previous bonus.

Can I get around the 5/24 policy by closing cards I've opened in the past 24 months?
No. Chase uses the information from your credit report, and closing an account doesn't make it disappear.

Is there any way around the 5/24 policy (targeted mailers, pre-approvals, Chase Private Client status)?
As to targeted mailers, we have insufficient anecdotal evidence to reach any reliable conclusions. (Reports suggesting no exemption from 5/24 here and here.)

There have been reports of people with more than 5 cards opened in the last 24 months being successful if they are already pre-approved for the card in question. To find out if you are pre-approved, you can call or go into a branch to ask. Success stories appear to be connected to Chase Private Client (CPC) status and the rollout of the Chase Sapphire Reserve card. In-branch pre-approvals (showing a green screen on the banker's computer) result in automatic approvals. Some (but not all) CPC clients had success in recon calls[[I]citation needed].

Can I apply for a specific Chase card and earn the bonus again after doing so previously?
It depends. A Chase card may be "churned" when an entirely new version becomes available. For example, business cards are distinct from personal/consumer cards. Note that simple variations among bonus offers do not amount to new versions/products for purposes of this rule.

Beginning in 2014, Chase began including explicit language in most of its offers, such as the following:
This new cardmember bonus offer is not available to either (i) current cardmembers of this consumer credit card, or (ii) previous cardmembers of this consumer credit card who received a new cardmember bonus for this consumer credit card within the last 24 months.
Effective August 2018, Chase imposed stringent additional restrictions on receiving the signup bonus for any version of the Sapphire card. See Sapphire (CSR & CSP) 48 months between bonuses, August 2018 and the master threads for each card (listed above) for details and discussion.

There are four key considerations in determining whether you can churn a given card:
  • The 5/24 policy discussed in detail above.
  • The 24-month bonus waiting period--in the case of Sapphire cards, the collective 48-month period--is measured not from the date of your previous application (or approval date, if different), but instead from the date you received the signup-related bonus on the previous card, which may be 3-4 months later than the approval date. The same rule applies regardless of the type of signup bonus received (points, miles, or free-night certs); anniversary benefits unrelated to spending requirements, such as annual IHG & Marriott certs, do not count as signup bonuses.
  • If you still have your old card of the same type, you're ineligible.
  • Chase's policy does not indicate whether there is also a minimum waiting period between cancellation and reapplication, and there is not yet sufficient anecdotal evidence from FTers to draw firm conclusions. At a minimum, a prudent churner will wait at least a week or two after cancellation before reapplying so that all of Chase's systems fully reflect that closure. (See first bullet point above.) At least one FTer has reported re-applying successfully 14 days after canceling the previous card.
Finally, note that if you reapply too soon, Chase may still issue you the new card. (This differs from some other card issuers, which may deny such applications outright.) In this case, Chase typically notifies you by letter within a month or two after approval that, as a previous cardholder, you will not receive the bonus a second time.

I'm an authorized user for a card issued to my spouse/parent. Does that prevent me from signing up for the same card and earning a bonus?
No. Being an additional user on someone else's account poses no bar to applying for that same card & bonus, except insofar as such cards may count toward the 5/24 rule (as discussed above).

I already have several Chase cards with a substantial aggregate line of credit. Will it improve my odds if I close an existing account (or lower its credit line) before applying for another?
Yes.

In the past, the conventional wisdom among FTers was that you were more likely to hurt your chances by closing an account or reducing CL unilaterally. However, substantial evidence from 2014 onward strongly indicates that Chase is increasingly likely to reject applications (or at least not auto-approve them) where an applicant has an existing total credit line that is high compared to his/her income & spending patterns. (For many members, the threshold appears to be in the $45K-60K range, but that is highly speculative.)

Recent reports suggest that closing accounts and/or voluntarily reducing credit lines increases the odds of auto-approval or in-branch pre-approval. (You can do either by calling or simply sending a secure message through your Chase online account. You do not need to provide a reason for the request.) For best results, keep at least $5K-10K in excess credit; if your application is not approved, you can always contact the reconsideration department and offer to reallocate that portion of your existing credit line. Note: despite allowing credit line to be moved between personal and business accounts in the past, Chase is no longer permitting such reallocation in either direction.

With respect to timing, it is better to reduce any CL as soon as you can conveniently do so, e.g., after meeting the bonus spend on a card you do not plan to use regularly thereafter. (Do not reduce CL on a given card if it would increase your "credit utiilization"--that is, the ratio of outstanding balance to CL--above ~30%. A high credit utilization number is a red flag for banks and can adversely affect your credit score.) Waiting until one's next application to lower a CL is less than optimal, as the reduced CL is not immediately recognized by all of Chase's systems.

There is no known minimum wait between lowering a CL and having the freed-up amount become available for purposes of a new application. A prudent applicant will, as recommended above, plan well in advance; failing that, an applicant would be wise to wait at least 24 hours between lowering a CL and applying for a new card.

I wasn't auto-approved. Should I call in?
It may be better to avoid calling Chase unless your application is denied. Many recent calls on pending applications led to denials, and many people report having success letting applications work their way through the system. Be patient. Time is on your side; increasingly, Chase CSRs are not.

If you do call, expect extensive and possibly hostile questioning. Be prepared to answer questions regarding the need for more credit, past credit apps for both Chase and other banks, income, business finances, etc. Know your CLs with Chase before you call so you know which card/s you are willing to decrease the CLs on. If the app is for a significant other who dislikes such calls, they can authorize you to speak on their behalf and hand the phone over to you.

How can I determine the deadline for meeting the spend requirement to earn the signup bonus?
Just send Chase a secure message (SM) through your online account. Although the deadline should in theory be N months from the date of approval (not the date of application or card activation)--where N is the number of months specified in the offer--Chase typically pads this period to account for the time required to fabricate and deliver physical cards. For example, a recent "3-month" deadline was in fact 114 days, as confirmed by Chase's SM confirmation.

Once I meet the card's spend requirement, how soon will I receive my signup bonus points?
Bonus points typically accrue at the close of the billing period in which you incur the corresponding charges. Points should appear in your hotel/airline account within a few days thereafter.

NOTE: If you complete your required spending in the last 7-10 days of the statement period, the bonus may not post until the following month's statement, even if the regular per-dollar points post on the first statement. This is normal behavior for Chase and is not worth a phone call.

Should I downgrade or cancel my existing cards before applying?
Useful Chase telephone numbers
(800) 432-3117 – General Application Status Line, automated
(800) 436-7927 – Alternative General Application Status Line, automated
(888) 609-7805 – Alternative Personal Reconsideration line with live rep
(888) 269-8690 - Business Credit Card Application Status Line, automated
(800) 453-9719 – Business Credit Card Reconsideration Line with live rep
(800) 955-9900 – General Card Services and Application status, automated
(888) 298-5623 – Credit Reallocation Office (Personal cards)
(800) 453-9719 – Credit Reallocation Office (Business cards)
(888) 622-7547 – Executive Offices
(877) 470-9042 – Personal Application Verification line with live rep
Twitter: @ChaseSupport
Note: In the past, automated telephone status reports stating that Chase would notify you in 2 weeks often resulted in an approval, whereas the "7-10 days" telephone recording often indicated imminent denial. In 2016, this pattern became increasingly unpredictable, with many applicants receiving approval despite an earlier "7-10 days" automated telephone message. As a result, automated telephone responses should not be regarded as reliable indicators of an application's likely outcome.
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Old Nov 27, 2018, 8:41 am
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Originally Posted by Stgermainparis
I want to apply for Freedom Unlimited. Currently have 4 Chase personal and 2 business (most recent apps were 1 biz in 9/2018 and 1 pers 1/2018). I'm under 5/24. Is there any reason I shouldn't go ahead and apply? Do they limit total Chase cards? I'm reading 6-7 on blogs but want to hear what general consensus is here. I've lowered credit limits before applying in the past, but I don't think I need to do that right now b/c if needed can ask them to shift credit.
There's a post on another forum today where someone detailed their (currently open) 13 Chase credit cards - 7 personal and 6 business.

The current, general recommendations I've seen regarding applying for Chase cards is to wait 2-3 months between applications.

(Many would tell you applying for the Freedom Unlimited is a waste of a 5/24 slot.)
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Old Nov 27, 2018, 9:28 am
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Has anyone had success getting around 5/24 for biz cards by going to a branch and applying though someone whose specific title is NOT a BRM? There is a single new branch in DC and they said that they currently do not have a Business Relationship Manager for the area, but they do have a Small Business Manager and a Business Development Manager. I want to get the CIP and I have a legit business, and I've heard that the only way to get around 5/24 is to apply in-branch, specifically with a BRM, and ensure they use DocuSign. Was wondering if these other employees would have access to the same DocuSign system.
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Old Nov 27, 2018, 4:34 pm
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Originally Posted by Diplomatico
There's a post on another forum today where someone detailed their (currently open) 13 Chase credit cards - 7 personal and 6 business.

The current, general recommendations I've seen regarding applying for Chase cards is to wait 2-3 months between applications.

(Many would tell you applying for the Freedom Unlimited is a waste of a 5/24 slot.)
Could you post the link to the forum? If against flyertalk policy, could you send link to me via PM? Thanks.
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Old Nov 27, 2018, 8:41 pm
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Originally Posted by Diplomatico
There's a post on another forum today where someone detailed their (currently open) 13 Chase credit cards - 7 personal and 6 business.

The current, general recommendations I've seen regarding applying for Chase cards is to wait 2-3 months between applications.

(Many would tell you applying for the Freedom Unlimited is a waste of a 5/24 slot.)
Thanks. Sounds like I should be okay then. I realize it’s a waste but I’ve got or had all the big ones and can’t churn for a while. I want the Unlimited for the 1.5x on personal card. I have the biz 1.5. Alternatively, I could get an AU on spouse’s Unlimited and forego the 15k bonus plus 10k referral bonus. BUT won’t even that AU initially count against 5/24 before pleading my case? Maybe I should wait. I’ve got over 1M UR and can’t use for a while. I am going to do the new Amex Gold and wanted to get a Chase card in first. Maybe you all have a suggestion.

Have or have recently closed: Ink Cash downgraded from old Bold or Plus, Ink Pref cancelled, Ink unlimited active. CSR, Freedom, Hyatt, Marriott cancelled, Amazon (LOL before I got into the point game).

I don’t want the SW cards right now bc want to wait for a year when CP will make a difference. Don’t really fly UA much.
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Old Nov 28, 2018, 10:07 am
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Originally Posted by mpeterson78
Has anyone had success getting around 5/24 for biz cards by going to a branch and applying though someone whose specific title is NOT a BRM? There is a single new branch in DC and they said that they currently do not have a Business Relationship Manager for the area, but they do have a Small Business Manager and a Business Development Manager. I want to get the CIP and I have a legit business, and I've heard that the only way to get around 5/24 is to apply in-branch, specifically with a BRM, and ensure they use DocuSign. Was wondering if these other employees would have access to the same DocuSign system.
If you are pre-approved in branch, any banker will do. In branch pre-approvals still bypass 5/24. If you are not pre-approved, you will need a BRM to submit your app.
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Old Nov 28, 2018, 2:01 pm
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Originally Posted by pallhedge
If you are pre-approved in branch, any banker will do. In branch pre-approvals still bypass 5/24. If you are not pre-approved, you will need a BRM to submit your app.
The banker may mistakenly tell you that you are preapproved, as they typically don't know what we know. If you are truly pre-approved, the app T/Cs that shows on the banker's screen should list a specific percentage for any charges you might carry. If instead of saying 12%, or 15%, it says something like "from 12 to 18", that app is NOT preapproved, and if you are over 5/24 you will be denied, no matter what type of banker, and whatever he/she may tell you.
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Old Nov 29, 2018, 8:11 am
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Uh, don't bloggers have sources?

Knowing that the majority of successful points-miles-credit-card bloggers have a reliable source at some of the major credit card issuers, I'm skeptical that 5/24 is being applied to the personal cards that haven't been subject to it. Hyatt might be an exception. But it seems to me that Gary Leff or one of the other major bloggers would have pinned this down if it were already in place for these other cards.
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Originally Posted by I can see for miles
Knowing that the majority of successful points-miles-credit-card bloggers have a reliable source at some of the major credit card issuers, I'm skeptical that 5/24 is being applied to the personal cards that haven't been subject to it. Hyatt might be an exception. But it seems to me that Gary Leff or one of the other major bloggers would have pinned this down if it were already in place for these other cards.
Back in June, one of the bloggers attended a Chase briefing:

"On Wednesday I attended a briefing in New York about The World of Hyatt Credit Card, which comes with some great perks. There were representatives from both Hyatt and Chase there, including Chase’s president of co-brand cards. Historically Hyatt’s credit card hasn’t been subjected to the 5/24 rule, and there were questions about whether or not that would change with the new card.

When answering this question, Chase’s president of co-brand cards said that while nothing is changing with the card right now (which suggests that 5/24 wouldn’t apply), Chase plans to expand the 5/24 rule to their entire portfolio of cards soon."


https://onemileatatime.com/chase-524-expanding/

Add to that the recent reports from two other bloggers:

https://www.doctorofcredit.com/has-c...-have-no-idea/

https://thepointsguy.com/news/world-...ard-5-24-rule/

Add to that the number of user reports on reddit, it seems pretty obvious that it's happened.

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Old Nov 29, 2018, 9:42 am
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I hear you. Thanks for laying this out there. I do remember at the time reading one of those posts in which the Chase CC bigwig says Chase intends to have 5/24 cover the entire CC portfolio. I'm just surprised not one blogger has confirmed this seeming change with Chase, on or off the record. I haven't read that yet.
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Old Nov 29, 2018, 10:03 am
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Originally Posted by Diplomatico
it seems pretty obvious that it's happened.
Now what?
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Old Nov 29, 2018, 11:30 am
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United Explorer Card question

Hi! For some reason, probably my mistake, when I signed up for the explorer card some years ago, it was as a JOINT account with my husband. Not authorized, but joint. We just went along with it as we traveled together all the time back then. He now travels for work, and a few times I called United about this, but the only solution is to close that account and start over. Or just have him start his own.

I see a 65k offer come in the mail for hubby. If he signs up on his own with a card, is he eligible for the 65k (assuming we meet the requirements) ? The first time around, the bonus miles were in my name and account. He got nothing, of course.

Run of the mill CSRs give various answers (yes and no) but then again, these CSRs also told me we could take him off the account but we can't. Thanks if anyone knows!
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Old Nov 29, 2018, 11:48 am
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Yes, he is eligible for the 65K IF he doesn't run afoul of Chases's 5/24 rule (he can't have opened 5 or more credit cards from all banks in the last 24 months). I'll move this to our Chase UR thread where you'll find additional info.
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Old Nov 29, 2018, 12:09 pm
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Originally Posted by vanillabean
Now what?
Now Chase is 'dead to us', at least those of us who are eleventy-seven/24. Jim Morrison lyrics come to mind right now:

This is the end
Beautiful friend
This is the end
My only friend
The end


For anyone who reads the major travel bogs, you may have noticed there is rarely a post of any use to us. It's all about new FA uniforms, someone who went berserk on a flight and had to be removed, or how to save $5 on an Amazon purchase by using a single MR point ( and sadly, I wasn't even targeted for that tiny offer). Almost nothing a FT regular cares about, much less can use. Why is this? Because the Miles and Points Game is almost over.

Just starting out? Great, get several Chase Business cards, which won't count towards 5/24. Then get 5 Chase personal Cards. Then move on to Amex and Citi cards. But if you've been playing this Game for several years/decades, you now can't get anything from Chase unless you don't apply for anything over the next 24 months (seriously?) AMEX is once in a Lifetime, so unless you get a targeted offer ( as I did for the PRG a few months ago), you won't be getting any sign up bonuses from them. Barclays and B/A (let's not even mention Capital One) will now deny you for MAC (multiple applications for credit).

So yeah, you can still get a few miles/points from natural spend, along with free checked baggage, and maybe priority boarding (it seems 80% of the plane now has priority boarding )

Other than that, the Game is nearly over for established Players. The only exception is the Citi AA cards, (at least for now), the free nights from any IHG cards you currently have open (DW and I have 4 between us) and the possibility that AMEX or Citi come out with new types of cards. But basically:

This is the end
Beautiful friend
This is the end
My only friend, the end
Of our elaborate plans, the end
Of everything that stands, the end
No safety or surprise, the end
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Old Nov 29, 2018, 12:25 pm
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But if you've been playing this Game for several years/decades, you now can't get anything from Chase unless you don't apply for anything over the next 24 months (seriously?)
Unless you've never applied much for business cards before, and you now start applying exclusively (or nearly so?) for business cards (not including Cap One or Discover), since those are "invisible" to Chase and look like you simply haven't been applying for cards.

A partial list of business cards that give signup bonuses is here:

A list of BUSINESS cards which earn miles or points.

That's exactly what I did the past couple years. I did one personal Chase card so far, and I'm at 1/24 now.

Now, I do have to mention that the "game" that I've been playing is "only churn for what I have a use for, only to the degree I can do the spend "naturally", and only when the value of the signup bonus is way over $$$. There are or course people who churn to a much greater degree, just to get any signup bonus (no matter how small), and do most of it with manufactured spend, and a modest list of business cards will not keep those people busy for two years.

But people who are churning just to churn might want to ask themselves, what's more worth ir, some big Chase signup bonuses or an endless stream of $200/$300 signup bonuses on cashback cards? If you use Chase signup bonuses for longhaul business class or first class airline seat redemptions, it would take a ridiculous amount of $200/$300 signup bonuses to match that .

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Old Nov 29, 2018, 1:41 pm
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Thank you! We'll give it a shot!
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