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New Chase Sapphire Reserve Card [Pre-release speculation]

New Chase Sapphire Reserve Card [Pre-release speculation]

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This card is under 5/24. You can override 5/24 by having an in-branch (only! online prequalification does NOT override 5/24) pre-approval, or by already being Chase Private Client (as in you see the "Chase Private Client" text on the login screen of the Chase mobile app.)

Landing page with bonus offer (100,000 UR after spending $4,000 in 90 days) is now live:

https://creditcards.chase.com/credit...04&IS2F=Y71UH0

Application page: https://applynow.chase.com/FlexAppWe...L3P&PROMO=DF01

100,000 UR points is worth $1,000 as statement credit, $1,500 when used for travel through the Chase portal, or potentially more if transferred to a partner.

Card features are here:https://www.chase.com/card-benefits/...reserve/travel. The card's Priority Pass includes unlimited guests.


Schumer box on 8/15/2016:
https://applynow.chase.com/FlexAppWe...g.do?card=FL3P

Chase Sapphire Reserve Ultimate Rewards Program Agreement
https://chaseonline.chase.com/resources/RPA0511_Web.pdf

Chase Sapphire Reserve Guide to Benefits
https://www.chasebenefits.com/sapphirereserve

The purchases made that you receive the $300 travel credit (or $85/$100 trusted traveler program credits) for do count towards the minimum spend, but the annual fee does not.

The card is made of the same material as the CSP, and is being shipped UPS Next Day Air Saver to everyone after production (currently (8/26) appears to have about a 3-day delay after approval before shipping.)
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Old Aug 7, 16, 4:37 pm
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Originally Posted by slivrflyr View Post
That was a public offer in late 2014 IIRC. Some folks who opened their cards in Q1 2015 were able to get matched to that offer. I don't recall the min spend. It was prob in the $3k ballpark.
I was the last person I know who was able to apply for the RC card and get it matched to the 140k points offer in late May 2015. It had a minimum spend of $3000
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Old Aug 7, 16, 4:47 pm
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Originally Posted by slivrflyr View Post
I do agree with you which is why my ritz card never sees the light of day once it meets $10k/y spend to re-qualify me for gold status. But it would
Be nice if the card is 100% metal like the ritz and not a metal/plastic mix like the CSP and United club m, which tend to peel from edges after prolonged use.
Ordinary plastic cards are like .1 or .2 ounces. Metal/Plastic combo is .5 ounces. Fully metal is 1 ounces.

I would not like the heavy all metal. My metal/plastic combo is peeling less than 1 month after I got it!

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Old Aug 7, 16, 4:58 pm
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Originally Posted by edealinfo12345 View Post
Ordinary plastic cards are like 1 or ounces. Metal/Plastic combo is 5 ounces. Fully metal is 10 ounces.

I would not like the heavy all metal. My metal/plastic combo is peeling less than 1 month after I got it!
Ummm, you may be off by a factor of 10 or so here.
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Old Aug 7, 16, 5:38 pm
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Originally Posted by tmiw View Post
It also makes contactless impossible, but that might be a moot point since the US doesn't seem to want that feature.
That's a good thing. Costco/Citi refused to give me a Costco Anywhere card without the contactless chip; I ended up having to drill a hole through the card at the position of the wire loop to permanently kill the chip. My phone could easily scan the card's number remotely; so could anyone with a high gain antenna from several feet to many yards away.
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Old Aug 7, 16, 5:45 pm
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Originally Posted by highops View Post
Ummm, you may be off by a factor of 10 or so here.
Yep, I think ritz card (all metal) is an ounce.
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Old Aug 7, 16, 6:02 pm
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Originally Posted by STS-134 View Post
That's a good thing. Costco/Citi refused to give me a Costco Anywhere card without the contactless chip; I ended up having to drill a hole through the card at the position of the wire loop to permanently kill the chip. My phone could easily scan the card's number remotely; so could anyone with a high gain antenna from several feet to many yards away.
I think we talked about this in another thread but I'm not too worried. Worst-case scenario we still have zero liability for unauthorized use. Besides, most transactions already go through without the need for a signature (PIN isn't even on the radar of major US banks) when using the chip or magstripe so it's not like someone who steals the physical card will have more access than they do now.

Having the card be made at least partly of metal takes the option off the table for people who want it, is all. Personally I prefer it to Apple Pay because a lot of places don't even know to turn on the terminal unless you have a card in your hand.
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Old Aug 7, 16, 6:28 pm
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Originally Posted by Dieuwer View Post
I actually prefer credit cards not to be made from metal (and therefore be heavy). The Sapphire Preferred I have tends to slide out of its pocket when my wallet happens to be upside down. I always have to be careful opening it.

I find the same with the ritz.

The best wallet performance have been my citi prestige and premier. Thin, no raised lettering and slick front side with name only. Amex cards, with the thick plastic and high embossing are the absolute worst.

Then again, this year I've only carried two credit cards: United club plus one (mostly prestige). Wallet isn't stretched out this way and if I do need extra cards they go in my bag.

Btw from the pic the CS(R) colors remind me of Arrival+
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Old Aug 7, 16, 8:58 pm
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Assuming the 5/24 rule is enforced...

If you can PC to this new Sapphire Reserve card from a lesser Chase card, can you later apply for a second Sapphire Reserve to take advantage of the bonus (or close the first Sapphire Reserve account first, before applying for a new one, if having 2 SR cards simultaneously isn't allowed)?

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Old Aug 7, 16, 11:07 pm
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Originally Posted by edealinfo12345 View Post
Ordinary plastic cards are like 1 or ounces. Metal/Plastic combo is 5 ounces. Fully metal is 10 ounces.

I would not like the heavy all metal. My metal/plastic combo is peeling less than 1 month after I got it!
That seems heavy. I weighed my CSP last year on a scale which I had verified its proper calibration just a few seconds earlier and it was a shade over 12 grams. I didn't weight my Club card but I would suspect a similar weight.
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Old Aug 8, 16, 1:59 am
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Originally Posted by Dieuwer View Post
I actually prefer credit cards not to be made from metal (and therefore be heavy). The Sapphire Preferred I have tends to slide out of its pocket when my wallet happens to be upside down. I always have to be careful opening it.
I don't care if it's metal or plastic. But I can't stand the numbers on the back with the strip. Living in Asia, and traveling globally for business, nearly every time I have to direct cashiers to turn the card around, or the flip it over a few times to examine it, tell them it is a Visa, tell them it's not a membership card, etc. Some cashiers reject the card just because they are confused by what it is, and I need to tell them its a Visa.
I get that they trying the card feel "elite" and fine keep the metal, but please put the numbers and name back on the front for everyone who travels internationally.
Find a different style to make the card look "elite"
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Old Aug 8, 16, 2:20 am
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I frankly would not care if the card was white and named "Visa Generic" in plain black letters. It is the points and benefits that make a card look good to me.
Sounds like a design for a new Apple co-branded "iVisa"
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Old Aug 8, 16, 3:28 am
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Originally Posted by baroqen View Post
Sounds like a design for a new Apple co-branded "iVisa"
And THAT would expose how messed up most folks are. Almost no one would want to carry a true white generic Visa, but put an Apple logo on the same design and charge $400-$500 and it would be a must have card.
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Old Aug 8, 16, 5:38 am
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Originally Posted by STS-134 View Post
That's a good thing. Costco/Citi refused to give me a Costco Anywhere card without the contactless chip; I ended up having to drill a hole through the card at the position of the wire loop to permanently kill the chip. My phone could easily scan the card's number remotely; so could anyone with a high gain antenna from several feet to many yards away.
This is very ill informed of you.

I work in the manufacturing of credit cards and have for years and years tested and produced contactless credit cards and they will most certainly NOT work several feet away, let alone several yards!

There is a miniscule, miniscule chance someone taps a fully fledged contactless checkout terminal against your wallet but they would have to get incredibly close. Plus, the liability is not yours, its for your credit card issuer...

Secondly, if you have two contactless credit cards in your wallet they will not be able to get a signal as both will be sending a message to the terminal and it won't be able to read it.

Stop believing the media fear mongering. These RFID blocking wallets for passports and credit cards is crazy. Have 2 contactless cards in a normal wallet - problem solved.
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Old Aug 8, 16, 12:32 pm
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Originally Posted by Lewis42 View Post

This is very ill informed of you.

I work in the manufacturing of credit cards and have for years and years tested and produced contactless credit cards and they will most certainly NOT work several feet away, let alone several yards!

There is a miniscule, miniscule chance someone taps a fully fledged contactless checkout terminal against your wallet but they would have to get incredibly close. Plus, the liability is not yours, its for your credit card issuer...

Secondly, if you have two contactless credit cards in your wallet they will not be able to get a signal as both will be sending a message to the terminal and it won't be able to read it.

Stop believing the media fear mongering. These RFID blocking wallets for passports and credit cards is crazy. Have 2 contactless cards in a normal wallet - problem solved.
Not to mention these contactless cards don't transmit your credit card number. It's a complex set of random calculations that you can't simply clone by scanning the chip.
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Old Aug 8, 16, 12:40 pm
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Originally Posted by Lewis42 View Post

This is very ill informed of you.

I work in the manufacturing of credit cards and have for years and years tested and produced contactless credit cards and they will most certainly NOT work several feet away, let alone several yards!

There is a miniscule, miniscule chance someone taps a fully fledged contactless checkout terminal against your wallet but they would have to get incredibly close. Plus, the liability is not yours, its for your credit card issuer...
You're testing with standard equipment and standard antennas. With high gain antennas, it's an entirely different ballgame. Come on, I've taken RF design courses and worked with RF engineers in my previous job.

WiFi normally works out to a distance of about 100m. Normally. So one might expect that if you have a large piece of land (say, one that extends for 500m in all directions from your house) and you surround it with a wall so that nobody can get inside your property, your WiFi is safe. But then, there's this:
https://leaksource.files.wordpress.c...nightstand.jpg
Use of external amplifiers and antennas in both experimental and operational scenarios have resulted in successful NIGHTSTAND attacks from as far away as eight miles under ideal environmental conditions.
Also, you know those cordless telephones that never work when you get more than 100-200m from the base unit? NSA can eavesdrop on their transmissions from 60+ miles away with a high gain antenna.
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