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Old May 17, 2017, 6:45 pm
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Many Chase cards, including Sapphire Preferred and Reserve and MileagePlus Explorer, come with three different kinds of travel protection:

Trip Delay: This reimburses you for incidental expenses if your travel is delayed, for example by weather, mechanical, or missed connection. It only covers new expenses such as hotel, local transit, taxis, meals, toiletries, clothes, etc. that are caused by the delay. It does not (usually) cover the cost of onward travel or any pre-paid expenses. Max: $500

Trip Cancellation: This reimburses you for travel expenses (tickets, hotels) you have to cancel because of covered reason (illness, etc.). It only covers pre-paid expenses, not new expenses. If you re-use your old tickets, it covers the change fee (but not fare difference). Max: $10,000 for CSR/CSP, $1,500 for MPE

Trip Interruption: This is similar to Trip Cancellation, but reimburses you for travel expenses (tickets, hotels) you have to cancel because you cut your trip short for a covered reason (illness, etc.). It mostly covers pre-paid expenses, not new expenses. Exceptions: If you re-use your old tickets, it covers the change fee (but not fare difference); it covers charges to return rental cars early to a different location; and covers up to $250 to get to/from the airport or medical facility. Max: $10,000 for CSR/CSP, $1,500 for MPE

No coverage on the Chase cards will pay for new expensive tickets home.

How to file a claim:
- go to http://eclaimsline.com/ , or
- call 1-888-675-1461

Guide to Benefits:
Read it! CSR - CSP

Trip Delay FAQ and experiences

This reimburses you for incidental expenses if your travel is delayed, for example by weather, mechanical, or missed connection. It only covers new expenses such as hotel, local transit, taxis, meals, toiletries, clothes, etc. that are caused by the delay. It does not (usually) cover the cost of onward travel or any pre-paid expenses. Max: $500

How long does the delay have to be? 6 hours for CSR, 12 hours for CSP and MPE, check your guide to benefits for other cards. Also kicks in if the delay is "overnight".
Are delays because of weather and mechanical problems covered? Yes.
Who is covered? Only you, your spouse, your dependent children under 22. For large meals (multiple main courses), people have been asked what portion of the meal was consumed by covered travelers.
Does it cover Authorized Users? Apparently yes, as long as their name is "embossed on the card", as well as their spouse and dependent children.
I bought reward tickets but paid taxes/fees with my card, am I covered? Yes.
I bought reward tickets with Chase UR points, am I covered? Yes.
Do I have to buy the flight that is delayed with the Chase card? Yes.
Do I have to use my Chase card to purchase hotel/meals/etc. I am hoping to have covered? No, you can use any card, or cash. Just keep your receipts.
Does the travel have to be round trip? Yes, but your ticket does not have to be. You must depart from your place of residence and return to your place of residence within 1 year. The round-trip travel can involve different tickets on different carriers, open jaws, etc.
Does it cover alcohol? Recent reports indicate yes; some older reports of alcohol being denied.
Does it cover tips? Recent reports indicate yes, up to 20%; some older reports of tips being denied.
My airline is offering a voucher for a hotel, but I skipped the voucher line and booked my own hotel. Am I covered? Reports point to yes, as long as you did not actually take the airline up on their offer.
Rather than staying in a hotel, I'd rather rent a car / buy a walk-up fare on another airline. Will this be covered? Mixed reports. In general this coverage is meant for expenses incurred during a delay, not onward travel.
How do I show the reason for the delay? The coverage requires a statement from the carrier indicating the cause of the delay. If your document doesn't state the cause of the delay, it probably will not work. One possibility is to get a military excuse while at the airport; another is to screenshot the carrier's website or app if it shows the cause. You can also write after the fact to get a delay letter: United: [email protected] , Delta , American. Make sure to request that the delay letter state the cause of the delay. For other carriers contact their main customer service.
Am I covered if my flight is cancelled and I am rebooked on a later flight? Yes
Am I covered if my flight is slightly delayed and I miss my connection, causing a longer delay? Yes
Am I covered at my home airport? Maybe. This report of someone being covered after appeal for hotel in Newark when EWR flight was delayed, lives in NJ but not Newark. Guide says "You are not covered for any Covered Hazard delay that was made public or known to you prior to the departure for the Covered Trip [a period of round-trip travel (meaning departing from and eventually returning to your primary residence) that doesn’t exceed three hundred and sixty- five (365) days away from your residence to a destination other than your city of residence.]".
I was delayed on my outbound and claimed $500. Now am I delayed on my inbound. Am I covered? One report on this thread of two reimbursements for two different delay incidents on a single ticket. Chase says "per trip" on the phone, but Guide says "per ticket". So a round-trip ticket may not cover two delays, but two one-ways could. Need more data on this.

Experiences:

  • 01/2014 - Delayed in MSP overnight due to mechanical issues. ~$300 for Hotel Ivy downtown, meals, and ground transportation covered with no issues. Benefits applied to AMEX FHR. Claim processed within 1 week. [Full Report]
  • 02/2014 - Flight was cancelled due to weather; booked Amtrak with points, which was then delayed because of downed electrical wires; rented a car and drove home. Used print out from flightaware.com to show flight was cancelled, claimed non-points dollar amount for Amtrak ticket, got Chase (not insurance) to request receipts from vendors that weren't saved by OP. All was covered. Full report
  • 04/2014 - Delayed in DTW overnight due to crew member time-out. ~$400 for DTW Westin and meals covered with no issues. Claim processed within 1 week. Full Report
  • 07/2014- Delayed in MSP overnight due to weather at destination. Booked Marriott Mall of America for $120, and meals for 3 and a shirt were all covered. Recommend keeping new and old boarding passes.
  • 12/2014 - Trip delay in WAS (flight was delayed because of MX causing misconnect and overnight. Reward flight with taxes+fees on Chase card. OP + wife were covered $632 for a for a room, dinner, and taxi roundtrip from the airport. Gratuity was not reimbursed and could not convince them to after a phone call. Hotel Was $380 after tax and this was not a problem.
  • 07/2016 - Delayed in YYC overnight due to mechanical problems. Claim paid out ~$300. Full report.
  • 7/2017 - Delayed in EWR due to thunderstorms. ~$390 for hotel, uber, meals. Claim processed within a week, no issues. Full report.
  • 9/2017 - Delayed in EWR due to Harvey. ~$499 for hotel, ubereats. Claim processed in 7 business days
  • 1/2017 - $625 covered on two tickets on JetBlue award flight with taxes+fees on Chase in FLL. Missed connection due to Mx. Incl. $65 at Walgreens, r/t uber to hotel, uber home, $265 hotel, $180 meal. Tax, tip, and alcohol covered.
  • 06/2017 - $258 covered for overnight delay hotel/dinner. Did not cover $50 to pick a seat on next day's flight. Full report
  • 08/2017 - covered during ATC equipment failure leading to cancelled flight
  • 08/2017 - covered with flightaware showing delay, no direct statement from carrier. Booked dummy return flight on Southwest to 'comply' with r/t requirement.
  • 12/2017 - covered for forced overnight due to ATL "Power Outage". Entire ticket, including taxes, was paid for using Ultimate Reward points through my Reserve account. There was no credit card charge showing on my account.
  • 1/2018 - covered for $500 including hotel tips, a drink, and minibar snacks w/ no receipt (but showed credit card statement with purchases listed)
  • 1/2018 - covered rental + gas to drive to int'l gateway when feeder flight was cancelled.
  • 3/2018 - covered int'l phone calls, roaming cell phone data (submitted phone bill), storage locker, and hotel.
  • 4/2018 - covered hotel, meals/snacks, cold medicine, Uber ground transport for overnight due to weather. Award ticket with taxes/fees on CSR.
  • 5/2018 - covered $250 in hotel, uber, two meals after missing a connection in a "painless but slightly drawn out" process. Had to request a different delay letter because first one didn't state cause of delay. Total turn-around time 40 days including re-requesting delay letter.
  • 11/2018 - covered $300+ in hotel, 2 Ubers, 3 meals; did not cover seat charge or Uber home; originally booked with UR points (no CC charge)
  • 7/2019 - covered $400+ in hotel, rental car, 3 meals, clothing/toiletries for me, wife and son for 24 hour delay; award tickets with taxes/fees in CSR.

(A previous thread that dealt with travel delay compensation has been closed and all future issues with travel delays & cancellations will be handled here. The last 4 posts from that thread have been merged into this one. The closed thread can be found here.)

For one overview of when you're covered and how to file a claim, read this blog post. The Milewriter @ Saverocity compiled a lot of information from this thread, and thanks all the contributors.

Trip Cancellation / Trip Interruption

This reimburses you for travel expenses (tickets, hotels) you have to cancel or interrupt because of covered reason (illness, etc.). It only covers pre-paid expenses, not new expenses. Max: $10,000 for CSR/CSP, $1,500 for MPE

Trip Interruption only covers a few new expenses: If you re-use your old tickets, it covers the change fee (but not fare difference); it covers charges to return rental cars early to a different location; and covers up to $250 to get to/from the airport or medical facility and from the airport to your home.

What are covered reasons? Illness or injury or death (with documentation) of you or family, severe weather, change in military orders, terrorism, jury duty or subpoena, uninhabitable dwelling, quarantine, or if your travel supplier goes bankrupt. Pre-existing medical conditions are not covered.
Who is covered? CSP/CSR: Extended family: You, your Spouse or Domestic Partner and their children, including adopted children or step-children; legal guardians or wards; siblings or siblings-in-law; parents or parents-in-law; grandparents or grandchildren; aunts or uncles; nieces or nephews. MPE: You, spouse/domestic partner, dependent children.
Does it cover Authorized Users? Apparently yes, as long as their name is "embossed on the card", as well as their extended family / immediate family depending on the card.
I bought reward tickets but paid taxes/fees with my card, am I covered? Yes.
I bought reward tickets with Chase UR points, am I covered? Yes.
Do I have to buy the travel arrangements with my card to be covered? Apparently now this is "yes", you have to pay for "some portion" of each travel arrangement (hotel, flight, etc.) for that arrangement to be covered.
What kinds of pre-paid travel arrangements are covered? "airline tickets, train tickets, bus tickets, prepaid tours, hotels, and rental cars."
What kinds of pre-paid travel arrangements are not covered? "Event Tickets or prepaid fees to theme parks, museums, golf courses, or other points of interest"
I got ill during a trip and had to buy really expensive tickets to fly home. Will I get reimbursed? No. If you can't use your original tickets, this will reimburse you for those -- but new tickets are on you. If you change your original tickets, this will cover the change fee only. It does not pay for fare difference or new tickets. It will pay up to $250 to get you to/from the airport or train station, medical facility, and to your residence after you land at your home airport.
I got ill and need to cancel my trip / return early. What documentation do I need? Generally a letter from a physician or other medical person. There is a special claim form for the doctor to fill out but a sufficiently detailed letter from the doctor can work too.
Does the travel have to be round trip? Yes, but your ticket does not have to be. You must depart from your place of residence and return to your place of residence within 60 days. The round-trip travel can involve different tickets on different carriers, open jaws, etc.
My flight was cancelled. Am I covered? Probably not. Only if it was cancelled due to weather or transit strikes, and only if you didn't get reimbursed by the carrier. However, see Trip Delay above.
I cancelled my trip and the airline has given me one year to use my tickets, but I can't use them. How do I get reimbursed? Several reports indicate that you must wait for the unused tickets to expire, then file another claim. You can get the change fee covered right away. Other reports say if you demonstrate you won't use the tickets, they'll cover full amount right now. YMMV.
Am I covered if I'm taking a road trip, with no flights or common carrier? Yes. However the online claim form requires flight info; just fill it out with dummy flights and explain your other documents that there was no common carrier.
I am pregnant and no longer want to travel. Am I covered? Maybe. Generally, unexpected complications with non-IVF pre-26th week single pregnancies are covered. Non-IVF multiple pregnancies (twins, triplets) are not covered unless you get pregnant after purchasing your tickets. IVF pregnancies are not covered. The guide says you are not covered for "Travel arrangements that are scheduled to take place after the twenty-sixth (26th) week of pregnancy; or when any multiple pregnancy, with or without complications, occurs prior to the initial deposit date or booking date of the Trip; or any pregnancy associated with an assisted reproductive program, such as in vitro fertilization"
There is civil unrest at my destination, am I covered? Maybe. Generally you are covered if there is a Terrorist Incident or State Dept travel warning during your trip (Trip Interruption) or in the 30 days leading up to your trip (for Trip Cancellation) for within 25 miles of any place along your trip itinerary or your home, as long as the incident or warning didn't happen before you booked your tickets. Not covered is "War, undeclared war, civil war, insurrection, rebellion, revolution, warlike acts by a military force or personnel". Also not covered is "Trips booked to any area known to be associated with Terrorist Activity" (meaning multiple Terrorist Incidents or travel warnings in 12 months) and "disinclination to travel due to civil unrest [or] an epidemic or pandemic".

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Old Oct 23, 2017, 2:23 pm
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Originally Posted by guv1976
Did you incur any expenses due to the port call cancellation?
No,... Just paid the cruise expecting to arrive at Helsinki
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Originally Posted by guv1976
Did you incur any expenses due to the port call cancellation?
I'm not sure why that would matter...Trip Interruption/Cancellation only covers pre-paid expenses, not any expenses incurred as a result of the interruption/cancellation.
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Originally Posted by knit-in
Still waiting for a check on a claim that was "Paid" nearly a month ago on the eclaims website. They had said I should get it in 7-10 business days but it's more like 15-20 at this point. Claims rep on the phone is apologetic, but advices to wait because canceling the check (that is supposed to be in the mail) and issuing another one might take "a lot longer".
Guess what! The check arrived today. The USPS stamp indicates it was mailed out on Sep 30. Way to go, USPS!
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Originally Posted by threeoh
I'm not sure why that would matter...Trip Interruption/Cancellation only covers pre-paid expenses, not any expenses incurred as a result of the interruption/cancellation.
I was thinking of non-refundable shore excursions purchased from a land-based tour company, as opposed to shore excursions purchased from the cruise line, which certainly would have been refunded had the port call been cancelled.
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Old Oct 31, 2017, 1:13 pm
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Question about coverage for timeshare rental

Hi! Question for anyone that has used a Chase card to purchase timeshare points, in my case Disney DVC points, from a company (not the owner) and were covered by the Chase's trip cancellation benefit. I know I'm covered if I book directly with Disney but am unsure if it covers renting points through David's DVC or DVC Rental store. I did call Chase and they said as I was buying/renting points that the trip cancellation insurance through Chase would NOT cover me. Just seeing if anyone has gotten different info or actually used Chase's travel insurance successfully when renting DVC points through a company. Thanks in advance!

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Old Oct 31, 2017, 2:18 pm
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Hi! Question for anyone that has used a Chase card to purchase timeshare points, in my case Disney DVC points, from a company (not the owner) and were covered by the Chase's trip cancellation benefit. I know I'm covered if I book directly with Disney but am unsure if it covers renting points through David's DVC or DVC Rental store. I did call Chase and they said as I was buying/renting points that the trip cancellation insurance through Chase would NOT cover me. Just seeing if anyone has gotten different info or actually used Chase's travel insurance successfully when renting DVC points through a company. Thanks in advance![/h3]
Don't see any possible way Chase would or even could cover the points. Not any different than buying CSR points. You don't have a trip here, just points that might be able to buy a trip. Without a trip with a beginning and an end, how in the world could you prove a storm on a particular date caused you a delay.

Always say nothing is impossible but, in thes case would say any coverage would be met with show me your reservations, your dates, etc And you wouldn't have anything to show them except a receipt for points that have to be used at a later date. No way Jose!!!
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Old Oct 31, 2017, 2:42 pm
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Don't see any possible way Chase would or even could cover the points. Not any different than buying CSR points. You don't have a trip here, just points that might be able to buy a trip. Without a trip with a beginning and an end, how in the world could you prove a storm on a particular date caused you a delay.

Always say nothing is impossible but, in thes case would say any coverage would be met with show me your reservations, your dates, etc And you wouldn't have anything to show them except a receipt for points that have to be used at a later date. No way Jose!!!
Thank you for the reply. I am new at this and perhaps did not provide the best explanation. The points I am buying are for a specific property at Disney for specific dates. I receive a bill of sale for the property and dates and the price for the number of points needed for the type of room I'm reserving. DVC owners sell their points to a company and then a non-owner can purchase the points to use. The company I use has a policy that everything is totally non-refundable although they offer a "cancel no matter what the reason policy" for a good chunk of change which is why I wanted to find out if I am already covered by Chase.
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Thank you for the reply. I am new at this and perhaps did not provide the best explanation. The points I am buying are for a specific property at Disney for specific dates. I receive a bill of sale for the property and dates and the price for the number of points needed for the type of room I'm reserving. DVC owners sell their points to a company and then a non-owner can purchase the points to use. The company I use has a policy that everything is totally non-refundable although they offer a "cancel no matter what the reason policy" for a good chunk of change which is why I wanted to find out if I am already covered by Chase.
That makes more sense. You are not insuring the purchase of the points, you would still have to pay in dollars a portion of the trip and if something were to happen and you lose the points, they would cover the cost of reinstating the points and the dollars you paid. They would not reimburse you for the cost in purchasing the points. Purchasing those points is no different than buying Chase, Hilton, IHG, etc points and Chase does not insure the purchase of points, they insure you for losses in the purchase of your trip, in other words make you even.

Like they say once you buy points, you can't undo that sale so as long as you have your points back after the issue you are whole and where you started for buying the trip, not to where you were before buying the points. If you are concerned that your trip might be interrupted, you would be better off paying the price of the stay in dollars charged to Chase and then you would be covered for the price paid.
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That makes more sense. You are not insuring the purchase of the points, you would still have to pay in dollars a portion of the trip and if something were to happen and you lose the points, they would cover the cost of reinstating the points and the dollars you paid. They would not reimburse you for the cost in purchasing the points. Purchasing those points is no different than buying Chase, Hilton, IHG, etc points and Chase does not insure the purchase of points, they insure you for losses in the purchase of your trip, in other words make you even.

Like they say once you buy points, you can't undo that sale so as long as you have your points back after the issue you are whole and where you started for buying the trip, not to where you were before buying the points. If you are concerned that your trip might be interrupted, you would be better off paying the price of the stay in dollars charged to Chase and then you would be covered for the price paid.
After your first note I called Chase back since I may have not explained it well to them either. This rep told me as long as I have the documentation from the travel company (using the card of course) that I am covered. Thank you for your help today
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Old Nov 2, 2017, 7:44 pm
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Originally Posted by knit-in
Paid for air ticket with my CSR. One bag (of two) arrived six days later. Called CSR to confirm what was required-- was told that we were covered up to $100 a day incidentals unto five days. Filled out all paperwork, sent receipts. Were told we will hear within five days. No response. Phone agents don't know why either. They feel all necessary paper work is completed.

Anyone else have any Delayed Baggage experience with the Chase Sapphire Reserve?
Hi Knit-in,

I'm currently in the middle of a claim with CSR myself. My baggage was delayed with Malaysia Airlines. CSR wants a documentation from the Common Carrier confirming the delay (different from the baggage irregularity report provided from the airport baggage office). Were you able to provide this? I've contacted Malaysia Airlines via their web form for the confirmation letter, as well as through the [email protected] email. No response. CSR says they must have this letter before examining the claim.
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Old Nov 3, 2017, 8:59 am
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Hi Knit-in,

I'm currently in the middle of a claim with CSR myself. My baggage was delayed with Malaysia Airlines. CSR wants a documentation from the Common Carrier confirming the delay (different from the baggage irregularity report provided from the airport baggage office). Were you able to provide this? I've contacted Malaysia Airlines via their web form for the confirmation letter, as well as through the [email protected] email. No response. CSR says they must have this letter before examining the claim.
Hi,
Sorry to hear about your bag.

The Airport baggage office should have filled a form out for you which has a Reference number. This Reference no. is your "File no." that you will enter on this WORLD TRACER webpage, which will provide you information on when your bag was delayed and when it was finally received. I took a screenshot of the page and uploaded it to the claims site.

Mercifully, my bag was delayed while on a codeshare flight with JAL to JFK, so all of my dealings took place with JAL. They were pretty clear that if I took anything up with Malaysia on my own, the process of bag recovery or documenting it would take a lot longer.

Hope this well help you out.

Edited to add... the link doesn't seem to be working above... perhaps the full link might:
https://wtrweb.worldtracer.aero/WTRI...5-518906BBE7CD

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Hi,
Sorry to hear about your bag.

The Airport baggage office should have filled a form out for you which has a Reference number. This Reference no. is your "File no." that you will enter on which will provide you information on when your bag was delayed and when it was finally received. I took a screenshot of the page and uploaded it to the claims site.

Mercifully, my bag was delayed while on a codeshare flight with JAL to JFK, so all of my dealings took place with JAL. They were pretty clear that if I took anything up with Malaysia on my own, the process of bag recovery or documenting it would take a lot longer.

Hope this well help you out.

Edited to add... the link doesn't seem to be working above... perhaps the full link might:
Thanks. I had to tried to take a screen shot right after they delivered the bag, but the tracer number was no longer valid. I literally tried two hours after delivery and they had invalidated the tracer number. I'm not sure what to do now. CSR wants the confirmation letter and as you well know, Malaysia Airlines does not respond to inquiries ever.

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Old Nov 3, 2017, 10:32 am
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Originally Posted by pucknyc
Thanks. I had to tried to take a screen shot right after they delivered the bag, but the tracer number was no longer valid. I literally tried two hours after delivery and they had invalidated the tracer number. I'm not sure what to do now. CSR wants the confirmation letter and as you well know, Malaysia Airlines does not respond to inquiries ever.
Ah... yeah they are not easy to work with, I hear. Perhaps someone on the MH board can give you an insight on how to get a response from them.
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Old Nov 4, 2017, 8:33 am
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Chase Reserve Trip Insurance when traveling on miles

Taking family on middle east and africa trip next summer.
Booked with United Miles.
Taxes and fees were paid w/ Chase Reserve card.

Does that mean I am covered by Chase Reserve trip insurance?

If yes. does that mean if I had to cancel the trip (my father's health is not great).. I could get Chase Reserve to cover the fees to refund the miles? ($125 each)

or use get reimbursed if there is a 6hr + delay.

https://thepointsguy.com/guide/chase...phire-reserve/
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Old Nov 4, 2017, 9:31 am
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I would begin by reading the Sapphire Reserve Benefits Guide, start on page 12:

https://www.chasebenefits.com/sapphirereserve

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