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#4786
Join Date: Feb 2013
Programs: Hilton Plastic, Delta Silver Emeritus
Posts: 1,037
If the first rep refuses HUCA.
My wife was approved for CSR using this method.
#4787
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: SF Bay Area
Programs: UA MileagePlus (Premier Gold); Hilton HHonors (Gold); Chase Ultimate Rewards; Amex Plat
Posts: 6,672
No. Closing an account does not make the entry drop off your credit report (pull it for yourself and see). You have to call recon and specifically ask them to exclude it.
#4788
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: NYC
Posts: 581
- Close the AU account and get each of the three major credit bureaus to delete it because you are not responsible for the account. Then contact Chase again.
- Leave things as is, and recon for the AU accounts to be ignored.
The second option is easier.
#4789
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: On strike
Posts: 8,135
You might as well try reducing the credit limits, though not the very minimum. Reason: Some people who have reduce credit limits found that Chase still had to transfer credit limit from an open card to approve them for a new card.
So I'd suggest getting away from being that high, but leave enough around so that in case you can get approved except only if you can transfer credit limit, you'll still have some credit limit to transfer.
So I'd suggest getting away from being that high, but leave enough around so that in case you can get approved except only if you can transfer credit limit, you'll still have some credit limit to transfer.
For best results, keep at least $5K-10K in excess credit; if your application is not approved, you can always contact the reconsideration department and offer to reallocate that portion of your existing credit line.
#4790
Join Date: Jan 2016
Posts: 480
Excellent, thank you!!
You might as well try reducing the credit limits, though not to the very minimum. Reason: Some people who have reduce credit limits found that Chase still had to transfer credit limit from an open card to approve them for a new card.
So I'd suggest getting away from being that high, but leave enough around so that in case you can get approved except only if you can transfer credit limit, you'll still have some credit limit to transfer.
Also, it's a good idea from a per-card utilization perspective to have your monthly statements be no more than 30% of the credit limit on that card. So that's another guide to go by in determining new lower credit limits to request.
But as to how likely that is to help in getting pre-approved later (ie, was the banker right?), I have no idea, sorry. But I don't offhand see how it could hurt, either (if you don't lower too much).
Also, I have no idea how often pre-approvals are re-evaluated, nor how long it takes for lowered credit limits to affect them (if they do). This sounds like it could be a longer-term plan more than a quick fix (though hopefully nowhere near as long a term as it would take for your 24-mpoth card count to get below 5).
So I'd suggest getting away from being that high, but leave enough around so that in case you can get approved except only if you can transfer credit limit, you'll still have some credit limit to transfer.
Also, it's a good idea from a per-card utilization perspective to have your monthly statements be no more than 30% of the credit limit on that card. So that's another guide to go by in determining new lower credit limits to request.
But as to how likely that is to help in getting pre-approved later (ie, was the banker right?), I have no idea, sorry. But I don't offhand see how it could hurt, either (if you don't lower too much).
Also, I have no idea how often pre-approvals are re-evaluated, nor how long it takes for lowered credit limits to affect them (if they do). This sounds like it could be a longer-term plan more than a quick fix (though hopefully nowhere near as long a term as it would take for your 24-mpoth card count to get below 5).
#4791
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: New York
Posts: 183
I applied for the Ink+ using my SSN on 9/10. 3 weeks prior (within 30 days) I had applied and was approved for CSR. I am currently at 2/24. I applied in person at Chase, and the application went to pending. Against the advice of the wiki, I called once I got home. The representative told me that I was denied due to having opened a previous card within 30 days and having high credit utilization. I explained that I have a wedding coming up and it's an unusual and short term cause of the high utilization but she can note I always pay it off in full early, and I'm willing to transfer credit line from CSR if needed. Long story short she stated that she changed my application from denied to "System Verification" and I can call back on Monday (9/12) for an update. When I call the automated line it says my card is under review and I will get a decision in writing in the mail in 2 weeks. Advice? Should I wait the two weeks, or should I call back Monday?
#4792
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Florida
Posts: 686
Applied for CSR. At 4/24 and got decision pending, which was disappointing. I'm guessing it's due to 2 existing Chase cards with high credit limits - both around 25k.
Wonder if it's worth calling to shift credit limits.
Wonder if it's worth calling to shift credit limits.
#4793
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: SEA
Posts: 2,556
Those are really high credit limits. If you don't need them that high, you should get them reduced.
#4794
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: SF Bay Area
Programs: UA MileagePlus (Premier Gold); Hilton HHonors (Gold); Chase Ultimate Rewards; Amex Plat
Posts: 6,672
That's nothing, I have friends with 100k aggregate limits with Chase. If I were to apply for a second Chase card (I currently only have the CSR), I would bet on having $65k or more in aggregate credit with Chase.
#4795
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Florida
Posts: 686
Followed your advice and confirmed my suspicion it was high credit limits. They wanted me to transfer my credit line by 2,000 to push the card through. Was approved immediately after agreeing to transfer credit.
#4796
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Florida
Posts: 686
FYI - (888) 245-0625 – Personal Reconsideration Line with a live rep
Number no longer in service.
Number no longer in service.
#4797
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 308
I definitely want to apply for the Fairmont card before Chase changes anything. Possibly the Marriott Business card too.
#4798
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: home = LAX
Posts: 25,933
Chase has 5/24 on most but not all cards.
Then totally separately (on all cards) they have policies on inquiries, but remember that only inquiries on whichever bureau they pull count. Unlike card accounts (which go to all 3 bureaus), inquiries tend to only go to one bureau. So if not all your inquiries are on the same bureau, or if Chase pulls a different bureau than the one where most of your inquiries are, Chase won't see as many inquiries.
So it's two very simple policies that are independent, but interact on many cards, while inquiry counting is the only "anti-churning" policy on a few cards. But how that remaining (inquiry counting) "anti-churning" policy will affect each person varies greatly, because of the bureaus issue. One person will have the bad luck of Chase pulling the only bureau that has all their inquiries, while another person who applied for way more cards may have the good luck of Chase pulling a bureau that has hardly any of their inquiries. (This is possible because what bureau each bank pulls varies depending on several factors, including --but not necessarily limited to -- what state one lives in.)
That's why inquiry counting is very inconsistent across applicants, and is quite likely a reason why Chase added 5/24 on top of it, because 5/24 is a technique which works the same no matter what bureau they use for a given applicant.
Why, then, would Chase need to add yet another layer specifically for those cards that don't have 5/24 yet? I don't think they have, and I think you're seeing the inconsistency of existing layers and the confusion that inconsistency causes can lead to the illusion that policies are changing, when it's simply the existing (inquiry counting) policies have always produced inconsistent results (unless a bank pulls all 3 bureaus).
#4800
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 308
I think you're may be over complicating how Chase might work.
Chase has 5/24 on most but not all cards.
Then totally separately (on all cards) they have policies on inquiries, but remember that only inquiries on whichever bureau they pull count. Unlike card accounts (which go to all 3 bureaus), inquiries tend to only go to one bureau. So if not all your inquiries are on the same bureau, or if Chase pulls a different bureau than the one where most of your inquiries are, Chase won't see as many inquiries.
So it's two very simple policies that are independent, but interact on many cards, while inquiry counting is the only "anti-churning" policy on a few cards. But how that remaining (inquiry counting) "anti-churning" policy will affect each person varies greatly, because of the bureaus issue. One person will have the bad luck of Chase pulling the only bureau that has all their inquiries, while another person who applied for way more cards may have the good luck of Chase pulling a bureau that has hardly any of their inquiries. (This is possible because what bureau each bank pulls varies depending on several factors, including --but not necessarily limited to -- what state one lives in.)
That's why inquiry counting is very inconsistent across applicants, and is quite likely a reason why Chase added 5/24 on top of it, because 5/24 is a technique which works the same no matter what bureau they use for a given applicant.
Why, then, would Chase need to add yet another layer specifically for those cards that don't have 5/24 yet? I don't think they have, and I think you're seeing the inconsistency of existing layers and the confusion that inconsistency causes can lead to the illusion that policies are changing, when it's simply the existing (inquiry counting) policies have always produced inconsistent results (unless a bank pulls all 3 bureaus).
Chase has 5/24 on most but not all cards.
Then totally separately (on all cards) they have policies on inquiries, but remember that only inquiries on whichever bureau they pull count. Unlike card accounts (which go to all 3 bureaus), inquiries tend to only go to one bureau. So if not all your inquiries are on the same bureau, or if Chase pulls a different bureau than the one where most of your inquiries are, Chase won't see as many inquiries.
So it's two very simple policies that are independent, but interact on many cards, while inquiry counting is the only "anti-churning" policy on a few cards. But how that remaining (inquiry counting) "anti-churning" policy will affect each person varies greatly, because of the bureaus issue. One person will have the bad luck of Chase pulling the only bureau that has all their inquiries, while another person who applied for way more cards may have the good luck of Chase pulling a bureau that has hardly any of their inquiries. (This is possible because what bureau each bank pulls varies depending on several factors, including --but not necessarily limited to -- what state one lives in.)
That's why inquiry counting is very inconsistent across applicants, and is quite likely a reason why Chase added 5/24 on top of it, because 5/24 is a technique which works the same no matter what bureau they use for a given applicant.
Why, then, would Chase need to add yet another layer specifically for those cards that don't have 5/24 yet? I don't think they have, and I think you're seeing the inconsistency of existing layers and the confusion that inconsistency causes can lead to the illusion that policies are changing, when it's simply the existing (inquiry counting) policies have always produced inconsistent results (unless a bank pulls all 3 bureaus).
On the flip side, I have never been denied a card from Chase and I have a very long relationship with them. Have had my personal account with them for 9 years, have had credit cards with them for 4 (including business credit cards for 3) and a business checking account. I just had concerns that perhaps Chase might start going the same route and I wanted to apply for at least another card or two before all of their cards go 5/24.
As a datapoint, I have 15 new accounts in the last 24 months, which I don't think is too crazy based on other posts I've seen.