United PQDs and Ultimate Rewards...
Mar 19, 15, 11:17 am
#31
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Oct 2004
Programs: Nah.
Posts: 13,960
I can confirm that the bulk tickets earn no PQD, but do earn miles according to this table: https://www.united.com/CMS/en-US/Mar...aspx#specialty ... which in some cases can actually be beneficial.
Mar 19, 15, 1:44 pm
#32
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Houston, TX
Programs: UA Platinum, Hilton Diamond, Marriott Gold
Posts: 148
I think it must depend on the fare bucket, and who knows what else.
I can confirm that I bought my mother an MSY-IAH ticket last month for about $200, which with the 20% discount, was ~18,000 UR points. She absolutely DID get PQDs for it. I just checked. United.com shows a total of $162 PQDs. The PQMs and PQSs posted normally as well.
I can confirm that I bought my mother an MSY-IAH ticket last month for about $200, which with the 20% discount, was ~18,000 UR points. She absolutely DID get PQDs for it. I just checked. United.com shows a total of $162 PQDs. The PQMs and PQSs posted normally as well.
Mar 19, 15, 7:15 pm
#33
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: SDF
Programs: UA, HH
Posts: 688
Originally Posted by qasr
I just noticed I had a bulk fare ticket issued by chase even though it was 100% cash paid.
Seems like I would earn no miles, since the PQD value is 0? If so I'll cancel and rebook on united.com ... that extra point per dollar for shopping at the UR mall isn't worth it!
Seems like I would earn no miles, since the PQD value is 0? If so I'll cancel and rebook on united.com ... that extra point per dollar for shopping at the UR mall isn't worth it!
Mar 29, 15, 3:34 pm
#34
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: NYC (Primarily EWR)
Programs: UA 1K / *G, Marriott Bonvoy Gold; Avis PC
Posts: 8,561
I had an interesting experience with this recently. My wife and I are going to Bermuda to celebrate our 1-year anniversary later this year, so I ended up booking the ticket via UR instead of on United's website, purely because I figured I would get PQM/PQD at a similar rate instead of booking via United's website and getting neither (and the rate was pretty much equivalent to the Saver ticket). So I ended up with W-class tickets from EWR-BDA, and I thought it was pretty solid - not a long flight, but the PQD would definitely help my wife out (I have Presidential Plus and am thankfully spared from those contemplations...for now).
UA's website now allows you to see the expected PQM and (more importantly, given I'm a bit lazy in determining how this is figured out) PQD - and we have 0 PQD. I confirmed that PQD on what are deemed bulk tickets will always be zero. However, I fought with them over the PQM, as they were showing ~2k PQM for a round-trip that is around 1600 miles. I am Premier Platinum, so I found the fare breakdown and argued that even with bulk fare, I should be earning 9x multiplied by the fare (less international taxes, etc.). In the end, they agreed and said I should earn closer to 4k miles for the trip, but that the updated estimate would NOT show up on UA's website. I'm skeptical of the whole thing, mainly because I've been calling them a lot recently about MPS.com activity not posting, and general mileage account posting being relatively late, but it seems like at least the PQD should post based on the airfare.
Maybe I got lucky, or maybe I'll end up getting screwed anyways...but that's my recent experience.
UA's website now allows you to see the expected PQM and (more importantly, given I'm a bit lazy in determining how this is figured out) PQD - and we have 0 PQD. I confirmed that PQD on what are deemed bulk tickets will always be zero. However, I fought with them over the PQM, as they were showing ~2k PQM for a round-trip that is around 1600 miles. I am Premier Platinum, so I found the fare breakdown and argued that even with bulk fare, I should be earning 9x multiplied by the fare (less international taxes, etc.). In the end, they agreed and said I should earn closer to 4k miles for the trip, but that the updated estimate would NOT show up on UA's website. I'm skeptical of the whole thing, mainly because I've been calling them a lot recently about MPS.com activity not posting, and general mileage account posting being relatively late, but it seems like at least the PQD should post based on the airfare.
Maybe I got lucky, or maybe I'll end up getting screwed anyways...but that's my recent experience.
Jul 1, 15, 4:01 pm
#35
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 46
Originally Posted by qasr
I can confirm that the bulk tickets earn no PQD, but do earn miles according to this table: https://www.united.com/CMS/en-US/Mar...aspx#specialty ... which in some cases can actually be beneficial.
Jul 15, 15, 10:46 pm
#36
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: SFO/SJC
Programs: UA Silver, Marriott Gold, Hilton Gold
Posts: 14,187
Wanted to report my recent experience. I just bought a ticket through the UR site on UA, for both the wife and I, as I wanted to split using points and cash, so paid 50% in UR points, 50% in cash (well, with CC, but you get the point).
At least for me, the tickets appear to be a regular, published UA fare. Not only because the price is the same as United.com (since this alone doesn't guarantee it is published...bulk fares can be priced exactly like published fares for, among other things, competitive reasons). But also, the amount of the ticket shows up on my receipt (as paid for by a Visa with the last 4 digits I have no idea what they are...assuming this is a CC UR uses to cover the cost), and the mileage earning section shows my projected earnings, including RDM, PQM and PQD, just as if I had bought the ticket on a CC from the UA site. This is another reason I wanted to do this through UR...while buying one ticket in points after transferring to UA would have been less miles, I wanted the benefits we both get for a paid ticket, primarily the ability to earn those PQM which I will need for qualification next year, plus the CPU eligibility doesn't hurt. So it looks like for me, all should be good.
At least for me, the tickets appear to be a regular, published UA fare. Not only because the price is the same as United.com (since this alone doesn't guarantee it is published...bulk fares can be priced exactly like published fares for, among other things, competitive reasons). But also, the amount of the ticket shows up on my receipt (as paid for by a Visa with the last 4 digits I have no idea what they are...assuming this is a CC UR uses to cover the cost), and the mileage earning section shows my projected earnings, including RDM, PQM and PQD, just as if I had bought the ticket on a CC from the UA site. This is another reason I wanted to do this through UR...while buying one ticket in points after transferring to UA would have been less miles, I wanted the benefits we both get for a paid ticket, primarily the ability to earn those PQM which I will need for qualification next year, plus the CPU eligibility doesn't hurt. So it looks like for me, all should be good.
Jul 16, 15, 8:25 am
#37
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: SDF
Programs: UA, HH
Posts: 688
Originally Posted by emcampbe
Wanted to report my recent experience. I just bought a ticket through the UR site on UA, for both the wife and I, as I wanted to split using points and cash, so paid 50% in UR points, 50% in cash (well, with CC, but you get the point).
At least for me, the tickets appear to be a regular, published UA fare. Not only because the price is the same as United.com (since this alone doesn't guarantee it is published...bulk fares can be priced exactly like published fares for, among other things, competitive reasons). But also, the amount of the ticket shows up on my receipt (as paid for by a Visa with the last 4 digits I have no idea what they are...assuming this is a CC UR uses to cover the cost), and the mileage earning section shows my projected earnings, including RDM, PQM and PQD, just as if I had bought the ticket on a CC from the UA site. This is another reason I wanted to do this through UR...while buying one ticket in points after transferring to UA would have been less miles, I wanted the benefits we both get for a paid ticket, primarily the ability to earn those PQM which I will need for qualification next year, plus the CPU eligibility doesn't hurt. So it looks like for me, all should be good.
At least for me, the tickets appear to be a regular, published UA fare. Not only because the price is the same as United.com (since this alone doesn't guarantee it is published...bulk fares can be priced exactly like published fares for, among other things, competitive reasons). But also, the amount of the ticket shows up on my receipt (as paid for by a Visa with the last 4 digits I have no idea what they are...assuming this is a CC UR uses to cover the cost), and the mileage earning section shows my projected earnings, including RDM, PQM and PQD, just as if I had bought the ticket on a CC from the UA site. This is another reason I wanted to do this through UR...while buying one ticket in points after transferring to UA would have been less miles, I wanted the benefits we both get for a paid ticket, primarily the ability to earn those PQM which I will need for qualification next year, plus the CPU eligibility doesn't hurt. So it looks like for me, all should be good.
Sep 3, 15, 7:17 pm
#38
Original Poster
Join Date: Apr 2009
Programs: Delta Gold
Posts: 157
Update, later in 2015
Well I'm resurrecting this thread because the answers still seem to be conflicting.
I booked a $300 United ticket on the Ultimate Rewards site a few weeks ago using about 24,000 points.
I just looked at my receipt on United.com and it says "ineligible" for PQDs.
Furious, I emailed United and they confirmed it was an ineligible fare.
... is going on? How can some Ultimate Rewards tickets work for PQDs and some not?
I booked a $300 United ticket on the Ultimate Rewards site a few weeks ago using about 24,000 points.
I just looked at my receipt on United.com and it says "ineligible" for PQDs.
Furious, I emailed United and they confirmed it was an ineligible fare.
... is going on? How can some Ultimate Rewards tickets work for PQDs and some not?
Sep 4, 15, 7:35 am
#39
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: SDF
Programs: UA, HH
Posts: 688
Originally Posted by milohoss
... is going on? How can some Ultimate Rewards tickets work for PQDs and some not?
If it would make a difference in my status - I would probably try to fight, but most likely it's pointless.
Sep 18, 15, 3:50 pm
#41
Join Date: Jan 2015
Programs: UA Plat (0.09 MM), SPG Plat, Hyatt Diamond, Marriott Gold
Posts: 81
What about booking with UR but using $ and not pts?
Do you still get the 3pts/$1 (valid through Dec 31, 2015) and the PQM/PQD? It still exceeds the standard $ buy off United site where you'd get the 2pts on your Chase UR account.
