Mar 20, 2014, 10:02 am
Last edit by: MDtR-Chicago
This thread is for discussion of issues with transfers of UR points to someone else's hotel or airline loyalty program account.
There is a separate thread to discuss transfers of UR points directly into someone else's UR account: Chase closed my Sapphire Preferred account due to transfers to other UR accounts.
There is a separate thread to discuss transfers of UR points directly into someone else's UR account: Chase closed my Sapphire Preferred account due to transfers to other UR accounts.
Official: UR hotel/airline xfer only to self/spouse/domestic partner
Nov 15, 2012, 2:26 pm
#1
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Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 251
Official: UR hotel/airline xfer only to self/spouse/domestic partner
In case people are/were wondering in different threads if UR points to UA is permissible, I just noticed a new disclaimer box saying:
Important information
Ultimate Rewards point transfer features are designed to allow our cardmembers to take advantage of the rewards they earn. The features are not intended to allow transfers to third parties other than a spouse or domestic partner of the cardmember. Transfers to unauthorized third parties or any other abuse of the Ultimate Rewards program may result in suspension or termination of the ability to participate in the program and forfeiture of points already earned.
Watch out guys!
Important information
Ultimate Rewards point transfer features are designed to allow our cardmembers to take advantage of the rewards they earn. The features are not intended to allow transfers to third parties other than a spouse or domestic partner of the cardmember. Transfers to unauthorized third parties or any other abuse of the Ultimate Rewards program may result in suspension or termination of the ability to participate in the program and forfeiture of points already earned.
Watch out guys!
Nov 15, 2012, 3:44 pm
#2
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: LAS
Programs: DL PM, UA PS, Hyatt Globalist, Marriott Titanium
Posts: 4,904
It used to be:
You can only transfer points to a frequent travel account belonging to you, your household member or an authorized user or employee.
Nov 25, 2012, 3:34 pm
#3
Join Date: Jul 1999
Location: Portland, Maine
Programs: UA 1K, SPG PLAT, HYATT PLAT, HH GOLD, AA GOLD, MR GOLD
Posts: 1,179
Ok so let's work this because this applies to me....what is the definition of an authorized user?
Another Card Chase member on the primary's account?
Someone who the UR & UA has given written authorization to use their account for miles redemption?
Another Card Chase member on the primary's account?
Someone who the UR & UA has given written authorization to use their account for miles redemption?
Nov 25, 2012, 8:15 pm
#4
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 1,689
I would suspect they are meaning 'unauthorized third party' as anyone other than the spouse or domestic partner as they have listed in the same disclaimer. It specifies who UR points are intended to be transferred to directly before using the term 'unauthorized third party'.
Nov 26, 2012, 4:38 pm
#5
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: SFO
Programs: AC SE, AA EXP MM, UA Gold MM, Hyatt Glob, Marriott Titanium, HH Dia, IHG Plat
Posts: 4,777
Is this now harsher than the Membership Rewards language?
Nov 26, 2012, 5:35 pm
#6
Join Date: May 2003
Location: CA
Programs: AA Lifetime Gold, HHonors Diamond
Posts: 2,879
The real question would be if UR can have access to the other persons address. i.e. the address listed on the Hyatt or UA type accounts.
Nov 26, 2012, 6:50 pm
#7
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: LAS
Programs: DL PM, UA PS, Hyatt Globalist, Marriott Titanium
Posts: 4,904
When you transfer UR to United, it asks for first and last name. Can't they just match the names?
Nov 27, 2012, 7:17 am
#8
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: CLT
Programs: UA
Posts: 132
Does this only apply to the Sapphire Preferred card? Or is it universal across the UR system? I was planning to get the Ink cards solely for the purpose of transferring my miles to my 'employees', but if that's not possible then I have no idea what I'm gonna' do with some of my family's orphaned miles. Oh well, FML.
Nov 27, 2012, 7:38 am
#9
Join Date: Jul 1999
Location: Portland, Maine
Programs: UA 1K, SPG PLAT, HYATT PLAT, HH GOLD, AA GOLD, MR GOLD
Posts: 1,179
Does this only apply to the Sapphire Preferred card? Or is it universal across the UR system? I was planning to get the Ink cards solely for the purpose of transferring my miles to my 'employees', but if that's not possible then I have no idea what I'm gonna' do with some of my family's orphaned miles. Oh well, FML.
Actually good question. I thought I had read it was ONLY Sapphire, but maybe now it is ALL cards...
Nov 27, 2012, 7:59 am
#10
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Ultimate Rewards Frequently Asked Questions
In another question the cards which are eligible for the transfer feature are listed. There is nothing to suggest that the transfer restriction does not apply to the entire program.
Nov 27, 2012, 9:23 am
#11
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: CLT
Programs: UA
Posts: 132
Man, that's really upsetting. My family has like 20K sitting in half a dozen separate accounts, and none of them have rewards cards. They're not big flyers at all, so the best thing that those miles are good for now are one-ways to South America and back. Shucks. So much for topping them off for trips to S.E. Asia.
Nov 27, 2012, 2:54 pm
#12
Join Date: Jun 2011
Programs: DL, Amex MR
Posts: 287
How about if the person if an additional cardholder?
Nov 27, 2012, 3:12 pm
#13
Join Date: Jul 1999
Location: Portland, Maine
Programs: UA 1K, SPG PLAT, HYATT PLAT, HH GOLD, AA GOLD, MR GOLD
Posts: 1,179
Nov 28, 2012, 2:53 pm
#14
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Charleston, SC, USA
Programs: Avis Pref+, Hyatt Explorist, Marriott Life Gold, Honors Silver, IHG Plat via MC.
Posts: 6,786
Darn it! I just saw this yesterday for the first time! I hope DC will not follow suit!
Tasnam #3, "authorized user" obviously means your choice A.: Someone who has a card which bills purchases to your account!
Even with the new language, I can't imagine that Chase would fault a primary Cardmember who transfers to a miles/ points account in his/her authorized user's name.
Darn it! I just saw this yesterday for the first time! I hope DC will not follow suit!
Tasnam #3, "authorized user" obviously means your choice A.: Someone who has a card which bills purchases to your account!
Even with the new language, I can't imagine that Chase would fault a primary Cardmember who transfers to a miles/ points account in his/her authorized user's name.
Darn it! I just saw this yesterday for the first time! I hope DC will not follow suit!
Nov 28, 2012, 7:43 pm
#15
Join Date: Jul 1999
Location: Portland, Maine
Programs: UA 1K, SPG PLAT, HYATT PLAT, HH GOLD, AA GOLD, MR GOLD
Posts: 1,179
Darn it! I just saw this yesterday for the first time! I hope DC will not follow suit!
Tasnam #3, "authorized user" obviously means your choice A.: Someone who has a card which bills purchases to your account!
Even with the new language, I can't imagine that Chase would fault a primary Cardmember who transfers to a miles/ points account in his/her authorized user's name.
Darn it! I just saw this yesterday for the first time! I hope DC will not follow suit!
Tasnam #3, "authorized user" obviously means your choice A.: Someone who has a card which bills purchases to your account!
Even with the new language, I can't imagine that Chase would fault a primary Cardmember who transfers to a miles/ points account in his/her authorized user's name.
Darn it! I just saw this yesterday for the first time! I hope DC will not follow suit!