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Old Mar 13, 2017, 3:34 pm
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The official Chase description:
Merchants in this category include airlines, hotels, motels, timeshares, car rental agencies, cruise lines, travel agencies, discount travel sites, campgrounds and operators of passenger trains, buses, taxis, limousines, ferries, toll bridges and highways, and parking lots and garages.

Some merchants that provide transportation and travel-related services are not included in this category; for example, real estate agents, educational merchants arranging travel, in-flight goods and services, on-board cruise line goods and services, sightseeing activities, excursions, tourist attractions, RV and boat rentals, merchants within hotels and airports, public campgrounds and merchants that rent vehicles for the purpose of hauling. Purchases from gift card merchants or merchants that sell points or miles will not qualify in the travel category.
What counts as Travel?
  • Airline purchases, fees & gift cards
  • AA e-gift certificate
  • Delta eGift Cards
  • UA in-flight bev

    Hotels:
  • Marriott GC and hotel charges
  • Airbnb & their GC
  • hotels.com (NOT hotels.com e-gift cert!)
  • Hotel restaurants not charged to room (verified at Renaissance LV)
  • Priceline "opaque" hotel purchases
  • Kruger National Park lodging reservation (booked on sanparks.org official site)

    Transit, including parking, trains, ferries, toll roads, etc:
  • Taxi fares: Uber, Lyft, Gett, Way2Ride, London taxi, Fasten (Austin)
  • Transit fees: BART, MTA, FastTrak, Clipper Card (Bay Area), MetroCard, DC Metro (WMATA) SmarTrip farecard and commemorative cards, NJ Transit, Oyster card, Ventra (Chicago), Las Vegas Monorail, Brussels (STIB/MIVB), Incheon Airport Bus tickets, Orca King county(Seattle area), Suica/PASMO (Tokyo IC transit card - Apple pay top up)
  • Parking meters: Atlanta; Chicago; Portland, OR; San Francisco; Atlantic City; Seattle, (Los Angeles but NOT Santa Monica)
  • Public parking garages: San Francisco; Montgomery Co. MD
  • Toll passes: E-Z Pass (MA, MD, NH, NJ, NY, PA), Sunpass prepaid tolls, Washington State GoodToGo tolls, RiverLink tolls, TxTag, IPass (Illinois)
  • Train tickets: trainline (UK train tickets), Eurostar.com, Bahn.com (when using Paypal), Amtrak, italirail.com, Train and bus travel in Scotland at ticket counter.
  • Amtrak dining car purchases (YMMV, recent reports are below):
    • Pacific Surfliner, November 2016 (tmiw): yes, counted as travel with CSR.
      Pacific Surfliner, December 2018 (tmiw): did NOT count as travel (no travel credit), but did count as dining for 3x.
    • San Joaquin, December 2015 (serpens): counted as 3x on CSR, unknown if counted as travel.
    • unknown train/date (StanJazz): counted as dining on Freedom and CSP.
  • Ferries: Cape May, NJ to Lewes, DE and NYWaterway (Belford-Pier 11)
  • Shuttles: Jackson Hole WY Airport official shuttle to town
  • Unlimted JR Pass for Japan purchased from japan-rail-pass.com

    Misc:
  • MileagePlusX Uber GC [NB MPX eBay did NOT count, so it appears to be only actual travel related items on MPX]
  • Royal Caribbean drink package
  • Cruise bookings
  • Cruise Excursions Booked Prior to Cruise (and fully refundable)
  • MIR Travel Agency
  • undercovertourist.com
  • Rental cars (verified Avis on page 7 of this thread, Hertz)
  • Car Share (Car2Go) (ReachNow)
  • Lahaina Cruise Co. (Hawaii Ocean Project whale watch cruise)
  • Interval International Exchange Fee + Upgrade Fee
  • Aircraft title transfer registration fees with ICAO's International Registry of Mobile Assets (Cape Town Convention and Aircraft Protocol)
  • Viator/TripAdvisor
  • Recreation.gov fees for reserving federal park campsites do not count as "travel"
  • Point.me award search site starter pass

Also, see THIS thread for additional locations.

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Old Jan 26, 2014, 12:34 am
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Originally Posted by Locke42
Hmm, maybe I can probably do that for Disney gift cards.
Disney gift cards are available at office supply stores and home improvement stores, as well, in case you have cards that offer a bonus for those categories...
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Old Jan 26, 2014, 4:52 am
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BTW Disney Vacation Club (timeshare) annual dues count 2x. Also tolls.

If you are staying at a Universal or Disney hotel, charge the tickets to the room and pay with CSP.

I think you should follow the Ink/office supply 5x route or find a grocery that has up-to-$500 variable Disney GCs and use a 5-6% cashback card.
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Old Jan 27, 2014, 12:17 pm
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Do you have the Chase ink card? If you do, call your local staples to see if they have Disney Gift card (i seen them at my local Staples). You can get 5X the point?

hope this works for you.
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Old Jan 28, 2014, 12:00 pm
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Originally Posted by Dromomaniac
Disney gift cards are available at office supply stores and home improvement stores, as well, in case you have cards that offer a bonus for those categories...
Any idea if I can use those Disney GC's to pay for Disney hotel stays? 2x is nice, but 5x is nicer
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Old Jan 28, 2014, 1:05 pm
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We had no problem paying for a Disney World on property hotel stay with gift cards we picked up from Sam's Club, fwiw.

Never bothered looking at Staples/Grocery, but that would be far more lucrative...
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Old Jan 28, 2014, 5:40 pm
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Originally Posted by cornellfOo
Any idea if I can use those Disney GC's to pay for Disney hotel stays? 2x is nice, but 5x is nicer
Disney GCs are good for virtually anything from Disney. The only exception I recall was buying Disney Vacation Club points.

My main problem is that often I cannot find anything larger than $50.
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Old Jan 30, 2014, 10:24 am
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Originally Posted by toomanybooks
. Also tolls.
I think tolls are hit or miss. All depends on what Visa knows the company as.. For example, SunPass in Florida is listed as miscellaneous merchant. There was a link in a recent thread I believe.

Also, was at Seaworld - Orlando (for the two roller coasters! Manta was pretty awesome. Rode in the last row. ) and got 2x points on both parking and food.
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Old Jan 31, 2014, 6:32 am
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If you charge your tickets to your room, then it counts as travel. If not, it's not considered travel, but entertainment.
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Old Jan 31, 2014, 1:57 pm
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I just confirmed with Starwood. Not sure if this is how it works with other non-Disney hotels as well, but it's a good bet that it does.

Disney operates their own ticket booths inside the Sheratons near Disneyland and in the Disney Swan and Dolphin at Disney World. You can't buy gift cards or tickets directly from the hotels themselves; Disney will process any ticket or gift card transaction. Which means that they won't count as "spending in Starwood properties" for the SPG Amex.

That's only for the Starwood hotels near the parks. I don't know if other Starwood hotels in the area sell Disney gift cards on their own.
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Old Jan 31, 2014, 3:29 pm
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As noted above, it also won't count as travel spending if you're not charging it to your Disney owned & operated hotel room.

Those two hotels are in a unique situation. They get some benefits of being on-site, such as extra magic hours, but not all of them, such as being able to charge things purchased in the parks to your room.
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Old Mar 26, 2014, 10:26 pm
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Parking 2x Points is Definitely YMMV

This is an old thread, but I am adding to it because of a couple of instances where Chase did not give me the points. One was for the parking structure that serves Disneyland (a $16 charge) and parking in Laguna Beach. Chase refused to issue customer service adjustments for the missing points.

Oddly enough, I received double points for a parking charge in Huntington Beach.

I also did not receive double points for parking at the garage across from the Seattle Opera.

Parking is so hit and miss that I have decided just to use my Amex Starwood for those charges from now on. One Starwood point is probably worth more than 2 Sapphire points.
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Old Mar 27, 2014, 9:24 am
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Originally Posted by pashber
This is an old thread, but I am adding to it because of a couple of instances where Chase did not give me the points. One was for the parking structure that serves Disneyland (a $16 charge) and parking in Laguna Beach. Chase refused to issue customer service adjustments for the missing points.

Oddly enough, I received double points for a parking charge in Huntington Beach.

I also did not receive double points for parking at the garage across from the Seattle Opera.

Parking is so hit and miss that I have decided just to use my Amex Starwood for those charges from now on. One Starwood point is probably worth more than 2 Sapphire points.
My guess about the Disneyland one is that it's coded under theme parks and not parking. No clue about the laguna beach one-was that attached to some other type of business? It all depends on the merchant categorization and (to a lesser extent) the name of the charge.
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Old Mar 27, 2014, 9:33 am
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Unless you're a guest at a Disney hotel and charge the car to your room, parking charges (as well as admissions) at the theme park come under "entertainment." Charges to your room are travel.

I've had no issues with double points for parking in garages as well as at meters and private lots. They all code as parking.
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Old Mar 27, 2014, 1:04 pm
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Originally Posted by cornellfOo
My guess about the Disneyland one is that it's coded under theme parks and not parking. No clue about the laguna beach one-was that attached to some other type of business? It all depends on the merchant categorization and (to a lesser extent) the name of the charge.
The Disneyland parking garage was categorized under a fast food category (believe it or not), but I still didn't get the 2X points. As for Laguna Beach, it was categorized into some kind of municipal category and not specifically parking.
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Old Mar 30, 2014, 12:03 pm
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Half dozen threads discussing the margins of the Sapphire Preferred travel (2X) category have been combined. Now, we seem a kind soul to summarize the conclusions in a Wkipost.
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