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United Mileage Plus Club Card vs CO presidential Plus

Old Mar 29, 2012, 8:17 pm
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United Mileage Plus Club Card vs CO presidential Plus

As I see it, this new UA MP Club card gives 1.5 miles per $ spend.
No EQMs that I can see from looking at the offer in detail on the web page.

My CO Pres Plus Card gives 1000 EQMS for every $5000 Spend or
1 RDM + 0.2 EQM per $

The costs are about the same. So, 1.5 RDMs= 1 RDM+0.2 EQMs
or 0.5 RDM = 0.2 EQM, or
5 RDMs = 2 EQMs.
so if I get to PP with even NO flying with 75k flex EQMs, I am spending (not getting the 50% bonus) 187.5k miles for it for 2 years of status.

Comparison -
For DL, one gets 1 EQM with 2 RDM for 2-2.5$ spend at 50-60k
For US one gets 1 EQM with 2.5 $ spent at 25k spend
For AA one gets 1 EQM with 4 $ spent at 40k spend

Given the fact that UA was previously charging 10 RDMs for 1 EQMs as a choice for conversion each year, I think for myself the old Presidential Plus Card is a batter value. For GS/1K the new club card may be better with 50% bonus miles per $ spent as they anyway have status and can change awards for free.

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Old Mar 30, 2012, 4:27 am
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Well - you can make it more simple.

If you are an elite, PP will be better. Otherwise, UA M+ Club.
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Old Mar 30, 2012, 2:55 pm
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Originally Posted by garykung
Well - you can make it more simple.
If you are an elite, PP will be better. Otherwise, UA M+ Club.
Actually the other way around.
If you are a PP or 1k or GS already with flying, Club card is better with 50% bonus for spend.
If you are a lower level elite strggling to make it to the next stage, PP card is better
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Old Mar 30, 2012, 3:13 pm
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I'm confused, didn't the CO card convert to the UA card a few weeks ago?
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Old Mar 30, 2012, 5:38 pm
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Originally Posted by ffI
Actually the other way around.
If you are a PP or 1k or GS already with flying, Club card is better with 50% bonus for spend. If you are a lower level elite strggling to make it to the next stage, PP card is better
Disagree.

1. GS/1K/PP earn a higher bonus miles from flying. That 50% bonus of purchase does not seem much help.

2. High-tiers elite tend to use FEQM for re-qualify.

Originally Posted by dshargorodsky
I'm confused, didn't the CO card convert to the UA card a few weeks ago?
Yes - You can call it UA Presidential Plus if you want to.

(PP is a terminal product that new accounts will not be opened. However, like other UA cards, the holders can still choose to keep it, or convert.)
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Old Mar 31, 2012, 12:23 pm
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Originally Posted by garykung
Disagree.

1. GS/1K/PP earn a higher bonus miles from flying. That 50% bonus of purchase does not seem much help.

2. High-tiers elite tend to use FEQM for re-qualify.



Yes - You can call it UA Presidential Plus if you want to.

(PP is a terminal product that new accounts will not be opened. However, like other UA cards, the holders can still choose to keep it, or convert.)
Only if you aim for Platinum.
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Old Mar 31, 2012, 2:07 pm
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Originally Posted by AmexCent
Only if you aim for Platinum.
I am in fact a Platinum.
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Old Mar 31, 2012, 6:23 pm
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pres plus FEQMS and 1 K

I am a Pres Plus CM.
I would keep the card to reach 1K.
2 Questions on FEQMS and 1K .
If I use 75,000 FEQMS to get to PP and I fly 25,000 do I reach 1K?
When I reach 1 MM, ( I have 991,275) this year I get lifetime Gold.
If I fly 25,000 do I reach PP?
I I use 25,000 FEQMS and fly 25,000 do I reach 1 K?
Thanks
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Old Apr 7, 2012, 9:42 pm
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Originally Posted by dcchili
I am a Pres Plus CM.
I would keep the card to reach 1K.
2 Questions on FEQMS and 1K .
If I use 75,000 FEQMS to get to PP and I fly 25,000 do I reach 1K?
No

When I reach 1 MM, ( I have 991,275) this year I get lifetime Gold.
If I fly 25,000 do I reach PP?
I I use 25,000 FEQMS and fly 25,000 do I reach 1 K?
Thanks
No and no
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Old Apr 12, 2012, 6:12 pm
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Is there a limit to the EQM's you can earn? It seems 10000 is the max EQM's awarded. I found this in the terms and conditions of my united signature visa:

RPC0438
03/14/12
If you have more than one United credit card account you can earn PQM on each of these accounts up to the stated maximum per account. However, under the United MileagePlus Program, the maximum number of PQM that can be awarded to your United MileagePlus Member Number is 10,000 each calendar year. Therefore, while excess PQM may appear on your United credit card account statement, these PQM will be forfeited and will not post to your United MileagePlus account.

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Old Apr 14, 2012, 2:45 pm
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Missing Primary Rental Car Coverage?

The new United Club Card seems to also be missing another benefit - primary car rental collision/comprehensive coverage. Is this true?

I secured a Continental OnePass Plus card last year that includes the primary car rental coverage. I obtained the card to receive the car coverage as well as bonus miles.

I had intended on upgrading the OnePass Plus card to a club card as I do belong to the club and like the lack of foreign transaction fees. But if I do so now then I will lose the primary car rental coverage, right? None of the new United cards seem to offer it.
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Old Apr 14, 2012, 10:28 pm
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Originally Posted by nycityny
The new United Club Card seems to also be missing another benefit - primary car rental collision/comprehensive coverage. Is this true?

I secured a Continental OnePass Plus card last year that includes the primary car rental coverage. I obtained the card to receive the car coverage as well as bonus miles.

I had intended on upgrading the OnePass Plus card to a club card as I do belong to the club and like the lack of foreign transaction fees. But if I do so now then I will lose the primary car rental coverage, right? None of the new United cards seem to offer it.
Actually the Explorer offers Primary Rental Car Coverage. see here https://www.theexplorercard.com/MPConsumerChart.aspx

But, like you I was wondering if anyone knows if the new Club card offers Primary Rental Car Coverage? It would be kind of weird if the lower end card offers it but the higher end card does not.


EDIT: As a matter of fact, as I research more into this, on the UA forums it actually says the new club card has Primary Rental Car Coverage. Here is the link where UAInsider (Company Rep) posted the Card benefits. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/unite...fficially.html

But still, if anyone has the MP Club Card can you please confirm if Primary Rental Car Coverage is a benefit?

Last edited by am1108; Apr 14, 2012 at 10:45 pm Reason: More Info
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Old Apr 15, 2012, 11:09 am
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From page 35 of the MP Club Card Membership Guide, you are provided with "primary coverage for physical damage to, or theft of most rented vehicles. Coverage is provided for rentals of up to 15 days when traveling in your country of residence, and up to 31 days when traveling outside of your country of residence."
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Old Apr 15, 2012, 11:28 am
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Originally Posted by ekwang
From page 35 of the MP Club Card Membership Guide, you are provided with "primary coverage for physical damage to, or theft of most rented vehicles. Coverage is provided for rentals of up to 15 days when traveling in your country of residence, and up to 31 days when traveling outside of your country of residence."
Thanks for the info.

I wonder why that benefit is buried way down in the fine print and not highlighted on the website. When it was a Continental card it was on the website, but United is not doing so. Curious.
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Old Apr 15, 2012, 5:20 pm
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Well, the front half is the big picture stuff and the back half goes into more detail.
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