Will CX stop flying because of crew quarantine?
#17
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If they were seen to be doing a competent job of protecting HK residents, maybe people here would be more forgiving of a move that will foreseeably harm an important sector of the local economy.
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#18
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The government seems to be destroying the livelihood of HK residents more like! It feels like their one and only goal is to achieve zero case so and it's ok to kill all the other industries along the way. Look at what Singapore government is doing, they prioritize air crew for the vaccine as they see them as essential workers alongside frontline healthcare workers. That's how you mitigate risk not locking the air crew up in the hotel room for 14 days!
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If CX cancels some of its intra-Asian flights due to this new crew quarantine rule (which I think will be the case since it won't be profitable to operate a turnaround flight then have the crews stay in quarantine for 14 days), is it likely that its oneworld partners (MH, JL, etc.) would resume more flights to HKG?
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If CX cancels some of its intra-Asian flights due to this new crew quarantine rule (which I think will be the case since it won't be profitable to operate a turnaround flight then have the crews stay in quarantine for 14 days), is it likely that its oneworld partners (MH, JL, etc.) would resume more flights to HKG?
Longer flights, especially intercontinentals, cannot be flown with a crew disembarking at the outstation and liable to quarantine on their return flight.
Singapore has a daily average of about 30 imported cases (48 yesterday) and close to zero local cases. Crews are not quarantined and get priority vaccination.
Hong Kong is the reverse. Only a couple of imported cases and an average of 70 local cases.
The effect on cargo flights, CX and all others, will greatly damage the economy.
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The government seems to be destroying the livelihood of HK residents more like! It feels like their one and only goal is to achieve zero case so and it's ok to kill all the other industries along the way. Look at what Singapore government is doing, they prioritize air crew for the vaccine as they see them as essential workers alongside frontline healthcare workers. That's how you mitigate risk not locking the air crew up in the hotel room for 14 days!
How many Singapore Airlines Crews voluntarily signed up to vaccinations?
how many CX crews?
#22
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did they do worse than US/UK?
if HK was just closed like Macau, HK would have a free summer with mainland China.
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#26
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There was reports that CX is working on a 21 days closed loop working schedule. (Ie crew will work during these 21 day period), then back to 14 days quarantine n then 14 days off.
Not sure how they planned this ? Crew will turn around in HKG instead ? Or they book the airport hotel for temp stay?
https://hk.on.cc/hk/bkn/cnt/news/202...00822_001.html
Not sure how they planned this ? Crew will turn around in HKG instead ? Or they book the airport hotel for temp stay?
https://hk.on.cc/hk/bkn/cnt/news/202...00822_001.html
#27
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Most Intra-Asia flights are less of a problem as the same crew can leave HK in the morning and return in the evening with a fast turnaround at the outstation.
Longer flights, especially intercontinentals, cannot be flown with a crew disembarking at the outstation and liable to quarantine on their return flight.
Singapore has a daily average of about 30 imported cases (48 yesterday) and close to zero local cases. Crews are not quarantined and get priority vaccination.
Hong Kong is the reverse. Only a couple of imported cases and an average of 70 local cases.
The effect on cargo flights, CX and all others, will greatly damage the economy.
Longer flights, especially intercontinentals, cannot be flown with a crew disembarking at the outstation and liable to quarantine on their return flight.
Singapore has a daily average of about 30 imported cases (48 yesterday) and close to zero local cases. Crews are not quarantined and get priority vaccination.
Hong Kong is the reverse. Only a couple of imported cases and an average of 70 local cases.
The effect on cargo flights, CX and all others, will greatly damage the economy.
So for those doing intra-Asia flight, they are not liable for 14 days quarantine as long as they dun leave the plane at SIN/KUL/BKK etc ?
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#29
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Can't Cathay do what BA is doing in Hong Kong. To get around the flight ban,I believe BA is flying cargo to Hong Kong with 2 sets of crew to HK on each flight. Both crews stay on the plane in Hong Kong and the 2nd set of crew works the return flight.
Couldn't Cathay do the same, with Crew not leaving the plane at destinations? This could work on passenger flights.... but Cargo planes might be an issue...
Couldn't Cathay do the same, with Crew not leaving the plane at destinations? This could work on passenger flights.... but Cargo planes might be an issue...
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Can't Cathay do what BA is doing in Hong Kong. To get around the flight ban,I believe BA is flying cargo to Hong Kong with 2 sets of crew to HK on each flight. Both crews stay on the plane in Hong Kong and the 2nd set of crew works the return flight.
Couldn't Cathay do the same, with Crew not leaving the plane at destinations? This could work on passenger flights.... but Cargo planes might be an issue...
Couldn't Cathay do the same, with Crew not leaving the plane at destinations? This could work on passenger flights.... but Cargo planes might be an issue...
But how I understand that closed loop works is that they are on duty for one rotation, return to HK and do their rest period at the airport to serve on the next rotation straight away. Then 2 weeks quarantine, 2 weeks off and the next closed loop of not getting out of the HK airport at all for several rotations.