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ET: Cathay Pacific, HK Express begin Cathay Dragon route carve-up

Old Dec 30, 20, 7:37 pm
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ET: Cathay Pacific, HK Express begin Cathay Dragon route carve-up

The gist boils down to this: "According to Hong Kong's Apple Daily, Cathay Pacific has applied for around 25 former Cathay Dragon routes with a heavy emphasis on the larger cities in China: the list is said to include Beijing, Shanghai, Chengdu, Hangzhou, Taipei, Penang, Tokyo and Kolkata.The South China Morning Post has previously reported that Hanoi, Fukuoka and Kaohsiung will also come under Cathay's wing."
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Old Dec 31, 20, 2:52 am
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This was already posted here on 22 december:
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/32904768-post22.html
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Old Dec 31, 20, 11:01 pm
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Is there a complete list yet though?
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Old Jan 2, 21, 8:15 pm
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I wonder whether CX will keep Xiamen or give it to UO
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Old Jan 7, 21, 3:16 am
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Good to see CX taking over PEN. Does this suggest they will take over HKT as well? Both are similar beach-oriented destinations with decent J demand, at least in pre-Covid times.
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Old Jan 7, 21, 6:30 am
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Originally Posted by dkc192 View Post
Good to see CX taking over PEN. Does this suggest they will take over HKT as well? Both are similar beach-oriented destinations with decent J demand, at least in pre-Covid times.
Well PEN does have quite a bit of industry and tech down there. So it's not purely a leisure destination. HKT might be much more leisure oriented.
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Old Jan 7, 21, 9:50 pm
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I was expecting HKT to go to UO, especially they already operate there but checking CX website, it seems HKT is put back onto schedule from 31 October operated by CX. Though a lot can change until then, does that mean the slots are officially given back to CX? So they'll keep dual CX/UO operations there?

CNX on the other hand is not loaded and I expect to go to UO. That one would be very surprising if it goes to CX.
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Old Jan 8, 21, 6:55 am
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Originally Posted by Sheun View Post
I was expecting HKT to go to UO, especially they already operate there but checking CX website, it seems HKT is put back onto schedule from 31 October operated by CX. Though a lot can change until then, does that mean the slots are officially given back to CX? So they'll keep dual CX/UO operations there?

CNX on the other hand is not loaded and I expect to go to UO. That one would be very surprising if it goes to CX.
FUK is loaded to CX and Asiamiles, can be redeemed but cannot book by cash. Strange.
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Old Jan 9, 21, 11:47 am
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Originally Posted by neofung View Post
FUK is loaded to CX and Asiamiles, can be redeemed but cannot book by cash. Strange.
The fare is there:
Code:
     1 CX 588N 31OCT 7 HKGFUK SS1  1110  1525  /DCCX /E
     2 CX 553N 02NOV 2 FUKHKG SS1  1410  1705  /DCCX /E

WPNCMHKD

    PSGR TYPE  ADT - 01
         CXR RES DATE  FARE BASIS      NVB   NVA    BG
     HKG
     FUK CX  N   31OCT NKZZWJAR        31OCT 31OCT 30K
     HKG CX  N   02NOV NKZZWJAR        02NOV 02NOV 30K
    FARE  HKD      4100  
    TAX   HKD       120HK HKD        90G3 HKD       204XT
    TOTAL HKD      4514
    ADT-01  NKZZWJAR
     HKG CX FUK264.46CX HKG264.46NUC528.92END ROE7.751465
    XT HKD55I5 HKD74SW HKD75TK
    ENDOS*SEG1/2*NONENDORSEABLE/FARE RESTRICTIONS APPLY
    ATTN*VALIDATING CARRIER - CX
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Old Jan 10, 21, 6:11 am
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But if you search in cx website, you cannot even load FUK as a destination ...

Originally Posted by ernestnywang View Post
The fare is there:

Code:
1 CX 588N 31OCT 7 HKGFUK SS1 1110 1525 /DCCX /E
2 CX 553N 02NOV 2 FUKHKG SS1 1410 1705 /DCCX /E

WPNCMHKD

PSGR TYPE ADT - 01
CXR RES DATE FARE BASIS NVB NVA BG
HKG
FUK CX N 31OCT NKZZWJAR 31OCT 31OCT 30K
HKG CX N 02NOV NKZZWJAR 02NOV 02NOV 30K
FARE HKD 4100
TAX HKD 120HK HKD 90G3 HKD 204XT
TOTAL HKD 4514
ADT-01 NKZZWJAR
HKG CX FUK264.46CX HKG264.46NUC528.92END ROE7.751465
XT HKD55I5 HKD74SW HKD75TK
ENDOS*SEG1/2*NONENDORSEABLE/FARE RESTRICTIONS APPLY
ATTN*VALIDATING CARRIER - CX
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Old Jan 10, 21, 3:03 pm
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Originally Posted by neofung View Post
But if you search in cx website, you cannot even load FUK as a destination ...
Just tried and was able to pull the exact same fare on CX's website.
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Old Jan 10, 21, 4:39 pm
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I wonder how long the process takes for allocation of the original KA flights to CX.
I am sweating on flying from CTU to Australia later in the year and , at the moment, all the services to HKG are on Air China so no Oneworld alternative.
Some allocations have come thru pretty quickly eg to KUL but no signs yet of CTU-HKG.

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Old Jan 10, 21, 8:25 pm
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Originally Posted by ozflier View Post
I am sweating on flying from CTU to Australia later in the year and , at the moment, all the services to HKG are on KA so no Oneworld alternative.
You mean CA? CA and CX do code-share on the CTU-HKG route.
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Old Jan 10, 21, 11:15 pm
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Originally Posted by ozflier View Post
I wonder how long the process takes for allocation of the original KA flights to CX.
I am sweating on flying from CTU to Australia later in the year and , at the moment, all the services to HKG are on KA so no Oneworld alternative.
Some allocations have come thru pretty quickly eg to KUL but no signs yet of CTU-HKG.
no hope for Australia to be re-opened this year
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Old Jan 11, 21, 12:28 am
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Exactly right, thanks.
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