P Class Added to Earning Chart
#1
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P Class Added to Earning Chart
Both the CX website and the AM website have just added P class to the MPO earning chart and AM earning chart, respectively, for CX and KA. P class earns the same amount of club points and miles as D and I classes. As of now, P class has been used for business class AD75 tickets, but looks like CX and KA will soon use it for revenue tickets. P class fares will probably be between D class and I class.
https://www.cathaypacific.com/cx/en_...ub-points.html
https://www.asiamiles.com/en/earn-mi...cathay-pacific
https://www.asiamiles.com/en/earn-mi.../cathay-dragon
https://www.cathaypacific.com/cx/en_...ub-points.html
https://www.asiamiles.com/en/earn-mi...cathay-pacific
https://www.asiamiles.com/en/earn-mi.../cathay-dragon
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Why would you call that a moot point? I could think of 2 potential reasons at least:
1. CX finds the price difference between D class and I class to be too big and wants to introduce a fare in between.
2. CX wants to lower the fare for I class.
1. CX finds the price difference between D class and I class to be too big and wants to introduce a fare in between.
2. CX wants to lower the fare for I class.
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I never think CX wanted to lower the fare but agree suspect they realized they need to diversify and seek new O&D market segment away from existing captive corporate base. Probably old I fare becomes where P is, with new "I" fare similar to Emirate's "bare-bone" J fare with no seat reservation, no lounge access, limited luggage, and limiting other frills, whilst those perks are readily available to those with status anyways. Not sure if airlines have luxury of talking about "not cannibalizing" on corp J/C/D segment, because i don't see those coming back in fashion we saw.
I would be a buyer of those bare-bone I fare as long as these aren't "non-changeable/refundable"
I would be a buyer of those bare-bone I fare as long as these aren't "non-changeable/refundable"
#5
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Then again, if they are going to downgrade I class to lesser blings. That will entice FFs like us since the things they could take away we actually can do so by virtue of our FF status.
#6
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Huh. The update might explain why I was getting a 404 error trying to access the en_US version of the Earning Club Points page last week.
Did P previously just not earn anything at all?
I seem to remember the lowest fare buckets for premium economy and economy cannot be upgraded with miles, but the lowest for business can; is there a possibility this is getting changed too?
Did P previously just not earn anything at all?
I seem to remember the lowest fare buckets for premium economy and economy cannot be upgraded with miles, but the lowest for business can; is there a possibility this is getting changed too?
#7
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No miles before.
Correct, E class and G, S, N, Q, O classes cannot be upgraded with miles.
Correct, E class and G, S, N, Q, O classes cannot be upgraded with miles.
#9
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P now shown as business class
I just stumbled upon P class under Marco Polo Website showing under Business Class eligible for Tier points, in addition to the usual J, C, D, I. Also Asia Miles shows it as upgradable fare with miles into first. I cannot see any P fares filed yet. Anyone knows more?
#10
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Just had a look on expert flyer and saw this pattern:
J9 C9 D9 P9 I0
Not sure if this gives any indication as to what P class is.
When I try to book a ticket on this flight the lowest class I can get is D. So maybe no fares filed for P yet?
J9 C9 D9 P9 I0
Not sure if this gives any indication as to what P class is.
When I try to book a ticket on this flight the lowest class I can get is D. So maybe no fares filed for P yet?
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Code:
FQTYOSYD1SEPBB-CX TYO-SYD CXR-CX TUE 01SEP20 JPY VA 0/ 0/21 JQ 0/ 0/ 6 UL 0/ 0/ 5 QF 1/ 0/21 CX 0/ 0/25 SQ 0/ 0/22 CA 0/ 0/ 9 JL 1/ 0/ 0 NZ 1/ 0/ 2 CI 0/ 0/ 8 FJ 0/ 0/ 5 MH 0/ 0/ 1 NH 2/ 0/ 1 SB 0/ 0/ 1 CZ 0/ 0/ 6 KE 0/ 0/ 6 GA 0/ 0/ 2 MU 0/ 0/27 TG 0/ 0/ 4 OZ 0/ 0/ 9 PG 0/ 0/ 2 PR 0/ 0/ 4 //SEE FQHELP FOR INFORMATION ABOUT THE NEW FARE DISPLAYS// SURCHARGE FOR PAPER TICKET MAY BE ADDED WHEN ITIN PRICED CX TYOSYD.EH 01SEP20 MPM 5835 BUSINESS CABIN V FARE BASIS AP FARE-OW FARE-RT BK SEASON MINMAX RTG 1 ILA2RJP8 60 220000 I¥18AUG-17SEP 2/ 1M EH01 2 ILA4RJP8 60 235000 I¥18AUG-17SEP 2/ 1M EH02 3 PAACRJP8 ¥ 260000 P¥ --- 2/ 1M EH01 4 PAAERJP8 ¥ 275000 P¥ --- 2/ 1M EH02 5 DAACRJP8 ¥ 337000 D¥ --- -/ 6M EH01 6 DAAERJP8 ¥ 357000 D¥ --- -/ 6M EH02 7 CAACRJP8 ¥ 462000 C¥ --- -/ 6M EH01 8 JAACRJP8 ¥ 700000 J¥ --- -/12M EH01 9 JRT - 890300 J --- -/12M EH03 10 JOW - 578800 J¥ --- -/12M EH03
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