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mastertrust Mar 11, 2020 12:00 am

CX 619 HKG- BKK 15 passengers?
 
Tuesday, March 10, connecting on 619 from Hong Kong to Bangkok. Lounge makes the announcement boarding has started, it’s only a short walk to gate three. When I looked at the gate about 40 minutes prior it was a decent crowd, but when I arrived there were only a handful of people in line. As I near the gate I was approached by an agent and asked about my itinerary. She explained the passengers transiting in Hong Kong were allowed on the flight, but the passengers originating in Hong Kong were not allowed on the flight due to changes that morning in Thailand’s criteria for vetting travelers from risky areas. Something about a requirement that they be monitored for 14 days and then have a doctors health certificate issued within the last 48 hours. Result? A few passengers in business, three in economy plus, a handful in coach. I think we were out numbered by the cabin crew.

Hong Kong airport was incredibly quiet, planes parked all over the place, only a few people in the first class lounge that was open. Devastating to see.

Kacee Mar 11, 2020 12:29 am

Situation currently quite confused with respect to Thailand entry restrictions. They allowed you as a transit passenger to board?

brunos Mar 11, 2020 1:38 am


Originally Posted by Kacee (Post 32167738)
Situation currently quite confused with respect to Thailand entry restrictions. They allowed you as a transit passenger to board?

Don't you think that the answer is obvious from the post?

youthagainsttt Mar 11, 2020 2:55 am


Originally Posted by brunos (Post 32167855)
Don't you think that the answer is obvious from the post?

No - as passengers are allowed to board with the requisite form and medical certificate if not transiting

percysmith Mar 11, 2020 4:19 am

You missed the fun and games Thailand's been having re entry requirements since 6 March https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/thai...l#post32166809

HKG allows airside transit even from restricted areas https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/brit...l#post32168058

So it's just the reception you'll get when you get to BKK

brunos Mar 11, 2020 4:26 am


Originally Posted by percysmith (Post 32168150)
You missed the fun and games Thailand's been having re entry requirements since 6 March https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/thai...l#post32166809

HKG allows airside transit even from restricted areas https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/brit...l#post32168058

So it's just the reception you'll get when you get to BKK

Percysmith, you are becoming a great expert on Thailand.

mastertrust Mar 11, 2020 7:21 am


Originally Posted by youthagainsttt (Post 32167993)
No - as passengers are allowed to board with the requisite form and medical certificate if not transiting

The issue, as I understand it, is it the Thailand restrictions require you be monitored for 14 days and have the certificate before you can board. As a passenger transiting from the US to Thailand via Hong Kong, I was allowed to board, along with a couple handfuls of other people. But now the requirements have shifted again. Now you have to get a health certificate confirming you’ve been monitored for 14 days prior to the flight and you show no symptoms, and then your subject to quarantine for 14 days once you arrive in Thailand. Oh fun.

from Cathay Pacific’s website:

Effective 11 March 2020, passengers departing from People's Republic of China (including Hong Kong SAR & Macao SAR), Korea, Italy and Iran are required to have the following at check-in:Further, passengers from the above zones will be subject to a 14-day self-quarantine upon entering Thailand or the length of their visit (if less than 14-days).

Exemption: Passengers transiting through above countries are exempted from the above requirements

Also, to be clear, the interaction with the staff indicated they were not allowing any passengers who originated in Hong Kong to board.

freed0m Mar 11, 2020 7:26 am

Now Visa is required for residents of Hong Kong. So many people in Hong Kong certainly can’t enter Thailand. The Visa application process will prevent many from visiting Thailand.

Kacee Mar 11, 2020 7:44 am


Originally Posted by mastertrust (Post 32168642)
But now the requirements have shifted again.

Thanks. What a mess this is to follow. And of course the HKG restriction makes no sense at all. Hong Kong is just Class 1. We have more cases in California.

Originally Posted by brunos (Post 32167855)
Don't you think that the answer is obvious from the post?

No, it's not obvious.

If you can't post constructively, don't.

percysmith Mar 11, 2020 8:36 am


Originally Posted by freed0m (Post 32168659)
Now Visa is required for residents of Hong Kong. So many people in Hong Kong certainly can’t enter Thailand. The Visa application process will prevent many from visiting Thailand.

Requirement revoked for HKSAR passport holders and never applied to foreign passport holders. The only people affected are BNO holders


percysmith Mar 11, 2020 8:44 am


Originally Posted by mastertrust (Post 32168642)
But now the requirements have shifted again. Now you have to get a health certificate confirming you’ve been monitored for 14 days prior to the flight and you show no symptoms, and then your subject to quarantine for 14 days once you arrive in Thailand.

I have no idea why a test done T-48 hours can cover the 14 days before that.

Or are they trying to say - having done the test 48 hours before departure, the passenger can’t have been infected (can’t have recovered from COVID) for the 14 days prior?

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...1387dd66e1.png

Kacee Mar 11, 2020 9:03 am


Originally Posted by percysmith (Post 32168949)
I have no idea why a test done T-48 hours can cover the 14 days before that.

Or are they trying to say - having done the test 48 hours before departure, the passenger can’t have been infected (can’t have recovered from COVID) for the 14 days prior?

Don't expect logic from Thai government!

brunos Mar 11, 2020 9:16 am


Originally Posted by percysmith (Post 32168910)
Requirement revoked for HKSAR passport holders and never applied to foreign passport holders. The only people affected are BNO holders

https://mobile.twitter.com/RichardBa...78581926543361

https://www.scmp.com/week-asia/healt...sa-free-policy

freed0m Mar 11, 2020 9:35 am

Embassy oversea normally under Ministry of Foreign Affairs. Immigration should be under Ministry of home affairs.


whose words are to believe?

With visa issued by oversea embassy, immigration still has the final power to deny entry.

Coolers Mar 11, 2020 2:10 pm

Bottom line, travel departing HK to Thailand will essentially be ground to a halt. The different Ministries in Thailand aren't talking to each other, going back over a week. Add on the requirement for a negative test result which apparently can't be performed by private clinics at this time.

It would seem that if you really wanted to visit TH, the easiest solution would be to travel on a non-BNO, non-HKSAR passport and transit through Singapore/Malaysia/Vietnam, as Thailand's illogical requirements only apply for travel departing HK rather than anyone who's been here recently.


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