CEO Rupert Hogg resigns; also other top execs
Aug 21, 2019, 2:56 am
#91
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My worry is now they will treat Cathay as "domestic" airline, and when you are labeled "domestic", that's where the corners are cut. So the same Airbus products China made that is exporting to Europe, versus the ones they made to service A350s for Cathay in China, same factory, two assembly lines, I don't say this as an outsider doing guess work.
Aug 21, 2019, 11:19 am
#92
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As a senior management that used to work in Shanghai and handle Chinese Communist members, I thought you would know better. Let me explain. It's a well known practice in China that when they build things, same product, there are "two assembly lines": 1) For export only - the best quality according to specs provided (say iPhone), 2) For domestic use - it can be the VERY SAME PRODUCT, but this is where they cut corners. I have done business enough in China to witness this myself in factories (just as you've witness your company bribing communist officials and providing for their kids educations).
My worry is now they will treat Cathay as "domestic" airline, and when you are labeled "domestic", that's where the corners are cut. So the same Airbus products China made that is exporting to Europe, versus the ones they made to service A350s for Cathay in China, same factory, two assembly lines, I don't say this as an outsider doing guess work.
My worry is now they will treat Cathay as "domestic" airline, and when you are labeled "domestic", that's where the corners are cut. So the same Airbus products China made that is exporting to Europe, versus the ones they made to service A350s for Cathay in China, same factory, two assembly lines, I don't say this as an outsider doing guess work.
Aug 21, 2019, 1:51 pm
#93
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I read about this the other day. If true, then that's quite a sacrifice to protect his own employees. Wow.
Aug 21, 2019, 5:18 pm
#94
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Aug 21, 2019, 8:12 pm
#95
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It's been debunked as completely fabricated by several HK based journalists, including SCMP's aviation journo Danny Lee. I'm surprised it is still floating around in a should-be informed on the topic forum like FT.
Aug 22, 2019, 6:42 am
#96
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News has come out that Beijing demanded Cathay to turn over a list of "problematic employees" to them, and Hogg refused. So Beijing summoned Swire himself (the person, not the corporate) to gave him a verbal lynching, and apparently Swire than use his influenced to force Cathay to submit to Beijing's will, which Hogg resigned in protest.
Although Cathay has disappointed me in the past for their Marco Polo nerf, but I still trust them to be one of the world's safest airline in the world. But after this, right now to me they are just another Chinese airline.
Although Cathay has disappointed me in the past for their Marco Polo nerf, but I still trust them to be one of the world's safest airline in the world. But after this, right now to me they are just another Chinese airline.
CX now becomes just another mainland airline with a lacklustre CEO fresh from ruining HAECO, but who will do exactly what he's told by Beijing.
Aug 22, 2019, 7:32 am
#97
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CX now even controlling their colleagues SNS contents, and seeking anyone who joined "illegal" protests before the new guidelines.
What a shame to CX new management team and Swire management, did they haven't learnt it from US and Japan carrier how to handle country/region issue before?
What a shame to CX new management team and Swire management, did they haven't learnt it from US and Japan carrier how to handle country/region issue before?
Aug 22, 2019, 10:52 pm
#98
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CX now even controlling their colleagues SNS contents, and seeking anyone who joined "illegal" protests before the new guidelines.
What a shame to CX new management team and Swire management, did they haven't learnt it from US and Japan carrier how to handle country/region issue before?
What a shame to CX new management team and Swire management, did they haven't learnt it from US and Japan carrier how to handle country/region issue before?
Aug 22, 2019, 11:04 pm
#99
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CX now even controlling their colleagues SNS contents, and seeking anyone who joined "illegal" protests before the new guidelines.
What a shame to CX new management team and Swire management, did they haven't learnt it from US and Japan carrier how to handle country/region issue before?
What a shame to CX new management team and Swire management, did they haven't learnt it from US and Japan carrier how to handle country/region issue before?
Aug 23, 2019, 1:25 am
#101
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Cathay Dragon union chief fired for posting political opinions on Facebook.
https://twitter.com/xinqisu/status/1...289300992?s=21
https://twitter.com/reuters/status/1...102928901?s=21
https://twitter.com/xinqisu/status/1...289300992?s=21
https://twitter.com/reuters/status/1...102928901?s=21
Aug 23, 2019, 1:53 am
#102
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The longtime head of the Hong Kong Dragon Airlines Flight Attendants’ Association, Rebecca Sy, says she was sacked by Cathay Dragon after confirming the authenticity of several social media messages she had posted, though management refused to specify the reason why she was fired.
Aug 23, 2019, 4:30 pm
#105
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China doesn't dare touch US-base carriers. They are locked in a trade-war. Trump might pull a smack-down like propose to buy the City of Hong Kong like he is doing buying Greenland. Hey! I have dreams too!
As for Japan or Korea based airlines, this would raise it to international diplomatic problem. Besides, Japan airlines can cut stop flying to China and probably survive. Cathay Pacific cannot.
As for Japan or Korea based airlines, this would raise it to international diplomatic problem. Besides, Japan airlines can cut stop flying to China and probably survive. Cathay Pacific cannot.