Go Back  FlyerTalk Forums > Miles&Points > Airlines and Mileage Programs > Cathay Pacific | Cathay
Reload this Page >

Asia Miles sweetspots from Vancouver, Canada?

Community
Wiki Posts
Search

Asia Miles sweetspots from Vancouver, Canada?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jul 17, 2019, 6:54 pm
  #1  
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Original Poster
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Programs: DL, OZ, AC, AS, AA, BA, Hilton, Hyatt, Marriott, IHG
Posts: 19,899
Asia Miles sweetspots from Vancouver, Canada?

I did a bit of research and it seems like YVR-JFK is a good redemption in J at 50k AM. However, redemption level is similar to Avios? Still a good deal?

Any other suggestions on the best redemption for someone based in YVR?
lsquare is offline  
Old Jul 17, 2019, 10:30 pm
  #2  
FlyerTalk Evangelist
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: ZOA, SFO, HKG
Programs: UA 1K 0.9MM, Marriott Gold, HHonors Gold, Hertz PC, SBux Gold, TSA Pre✓
Posts: 13,811
Seriously, go to Hong Kong.

50k miles in business is very standard in the N. America region. There is nothing really that sweet.
moondog and lsquare like this.
garykung is offline  
Old Jul 18, 2019, 12:41 am
  #3  
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Original Poster
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Programs: DL, OZ, AC, AS, AA, BA, Hilton, Hyatt, Marriott, IHG
Posts: 19,899
Originally Posted by garykung
Seriously, go to Hong Kong.

50k miles in business is very standard in the N. America region. There is nothing really that sweet.
Wow! 50k AM round-trip in J for YVR-HKG? If so, that's awesome.

Does CX release more award space for its own program compared to Avios or Alaska?

Is it possible to search for award space without any Asia Miles?
lsquare is offline  
Old Jul 18, 2019, 1:22 am
  #4  
FlyerTalk Evangelist
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: ZOA, SFO, HKG
Programs: UA 1K 0.9MM, Marriott Gold, HHonors Gold, Hertz PC, SBux Gold, TSA Pre✓
Posts: 13,811
Originally Posted by lsquare
Wow! 50k AM round-trip in J for YVR-HKG? If so, that's awesome.
We all wish that happens. But no - 60K AM for Y.

Unless you need to take care of business in New York, it is not worth it to take YVR-JFK with CX because it is extremely overpriced, according to Google (like double).

Originally Posted by lsquare
Does CX release more award space for its own program compared to Avios or Alaska?
FT reports that partner awards are generally easier to book than AM.

Originally Posted by lsquare
Is it possible to search for award space without any Asia Miles?
Yes - you simply need the account. No mile is needed in the account.
garykung is offline  
Old Jul 18, 2019, 2:11 am
  #5  
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Original Poster
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Programs: DL, OZ, AC, AS, AA, BA, Hilton, Hyatt, Marriott, IHG
Posts: 19,899
Originally Posted by garykung
We all wish that happens. But no - 60K AM for Y.

Unless you need to take care of business in New York, it is not worth it to take YVR-JFK with CX because it is extremely overpriced, according to Google (like double).



FT reports that partner awards are generally easier to book than AM.



Yes - you simply need the account. No mile is needed in the account.
Sorry, I totally misread your post! It's disappointing to read that it's harder to book awards with AM than with its partners. So are there any advantages to AM for someone flying out of YVR? If Avios is better for flying CX to HKG, then I'm not sure what's the point of AM then.
lsquare is offline  
Old Jul 18, 2019, 2:34 am
  #6  
FlyerTalk Evangelist
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: ZOA, SFO, HKG
Programs: UA 1K 0.9MM, Marriott Gold, HHonors Gold, Hertz PC, SBux Gold, TSA Pre✓
Posts: 13,811
Originally Posted by lsquare
So are there any advantages to AM for someone flying out of YVR?
Upgrade?

Originally Posted by lsquare
If Avios is better for flying CX to HKG, then I'm not sure what's the point of AM then.
AM is never designed to be a worldwide program, but a regional based program (I believe the name Asia Miles speaks for itself). AM's presence in Canada is mainly due to the large population immigration from Hong Kong during the 90s.

Also - the point of AM is being the cash cow for CX, rather than an actual reward program (Note - MPC is the FFP). With the 3-year expiration policy, many AM get expired and forfeited back to CX. Also - many AM award tickets are based on miles earned through credit cards (i.e. a cheque from the banks).

FWIW - it is easier to book funfare than getting an AM award.
lsquare likes this.
garykung is offline  
Old Jul 18, 2019, 2:37 am
  #7  
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Original Poster
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Programs: DL, OZ, AC, AS, AA, BA, Hilton, Hyatt, Marriott, IHG
Posts: 19,899
Originally Posted by garykung
Upgrade?



AM is never designed to be a worldwide program, but a regional based program (I believe the name Asia Miles speaks for itself). AM's presence in Canada is mainly due to the large population immigration from Hong Kong during the 90s.

Also - the point of AM is being the cash cow for CX, rather than an actual reward program (Note - MPC is the FFP). With the 3-year expiration policy, many AM get expired and forfeited back to CX. Also - many AM award tickets are based on miles earned through credit cards (i.e. a cheque from the banks).

FWIW - it is easier to book funfare than getting an AM award.
Ok, that's terrible. I thought AM would be a nice program to transfer some CTY points over as well, but I guess the program is fairly useless then.
lsquare is offline  
Old Jul 18, 2019, 3:02 am
  #8  
FlyerTalk Evangelist
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: ZOA, SFO, HKG
Programs: UA 1K 0.9MM, Marriott Gold, HHonors Gold, Hertz PC, SBux Gold, TSA Pre✓
Posts: 13,811
Originally Posted by lsquare
Ok, that's terrible. I thought AM would be a nice program to transfer some CTY points over as well, but I guess the program is fairly useless then.
It is not useless if you are able to find the award seat you want. Remember - that's a BIG IF.
garykung is offline  
Old Jul 18, 2019, 3:09 am
  #9  
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Original Poster
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Programs: DL, OZ, AC, AS, AA, BA, Hilton, Hyatt, Marriott, IHG
Posts: 19,899
Originally Posted by garykung
It is not useless if you are able to find the award seat you want. Remember - that's a BIG IF.
But that can be said of any program with award availability right? I just looked at the points for redemption and I think I'm probably better off just moving everything to Avios.
lsquare is offline  
Old Jul 18, 2019, 3:29 am
  #10  
FlyerTalk Evangelist
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: ZOA, SFO, HKG
Programs: UA 1K 0.9MM, Marriott Gold, HHonors Gold, Hertz PC, SBux Gold, TSA Pre✓
Posts: 13,811
Originally Posted by lsquare
But that can be said of any program with award availability right? I just looked at the points for redemption and I think I'm probably better off just moving everything to Avios.
No if you rely on this:

https://www.ideaworkscompany.com/wp-...eport-2019.pdf

While there is always a reliability issue, some programs do deliver what they have promised.

But FWIW - CX is never one of them.
lsquare likes this.
garykung is offline  
Old Jul 18, 2019, 8:08 pm
  #11  
 
Join Date: Aug 2018
Posts: 33
Originally Posted by garykung
Upgrade?



AM is never designed to be a worldwide program, but a regional based program (I believe the name Asia Miles speaks for itself). AM's presence in Canada is mainly due to the large population immigration from Hong Kong during the 90s.

Also - the point of AM is being the cash cow for CX, rather than an actual reward program (Note - MPC is the FFP). With the 3-year expiration policy, many AM get expired and forfeited back to CX. Also - many AM award tickets are based on miles earned through credit cards (i.e. a cheque from the banks).

FWIW - it is easier to book funfare than getting an AM award.
Jumping in on this thread since I'm pretty new to AM (but have easily acquired a handful of miles through credit card programs). I was hoping to find PHL-DOH-SIN availability but reading a bit more it seems I'd get hit with prohibitively high YQ on Qatar. Since that's off the table, I was considering PHL-BOS-HKG-SIN or PHL-ORD-HKG-SIN, but your comment about AM availability makes me pessimistic.

What do you think are the best uses of AM from the US (east coast esp.?) BA to Europe with some (but not exorbitant) YQ? Anything else?
syalam is offline  
Old Jul 18, 2019, 8:43 pm
  #12  
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 496
As a cash ticket, YVR-JFK on CX is actually perfectly competitive with other nonstops (at the times when they exist); the one-stops are pretty grueling, with the options being an 11+ hour day flight, or a 7-plus-hour flight that requires a later-evening connection in PDX. There is often some AM availability in Y...
wanderingtheearth is offline  
Old Jul 19, 2019, 12:35 pm
  #13  
FlyerTalk Evangelist
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: ZOA, SFO, HKG
Programs: UA 1K 0.9MM, Marriott Gold, HHonors Gold, Hertz PC, SBux Gold, TSA Pre✓
Posts: 13,811
Originally Posted by Jing Xian Ng
What do you think are the best uses of AM from the US (east coast esp.?) BA to Europe with some (but not exorbitant) YQ? Anything else?
My purpose is not trying to trash AM (even it sounds like I am). But anyone who have ever try to find an AM award will know the PITA about AM. Nevertheless, AFAICT, the following would be the best use of AM:

1. AM Upgrade.
2. Partner award on AA domestic.
lsquare likes this.
garykung is offline  
Old Jul 20, 2019, 11:55 pm
  #14  
 
Join Date: Mar 2018
Programs: AS MVP Gold 75k, Hyatt Globalist, National Executive Elite
Posts: 272
You can do YVR-HKG-SEA in J w/ 85k miles... just saying(because technically it's an one-way from YVR to SEA with a HKG stopover).
tentseller likes this.

Last edited by eddiehuang97; Jul 21, 2019 at 12:31 am
eddiehuang97 is offline  
Old Jul 31, 2019, 11:12 am
  #15  
 
Join Date: Mar 2019
Posts: 4
So I'm on the east coast of Canada and I see I can do BOS-HKG (stop) -YYZ in J for 85k. This seems too good to true frankly. Is this a possible intinerary?
sleepybedhead is offline  


Contact Us - Manage Preferences - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

This site is owned, operated, and maintained by MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Designated trademarks are the property of their respective owners.