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Old Jul 15, 2019, 5:21 pm
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Munich to Hk question

Hi all,

I have an upcoming CX booking from MUC to HKG.

The first sector is Lufthansa and goes to Frankfurt. LH101 (sold as CX6716)

From there, it’s a 1hr35 minute connection to the CX 288 HKG flight.

It’s all on one CX PNR and travelling as Oneworld Emerald.

Questions:

1. Will the bags be checked right through from MUC, noting that LH is not a Oneworld carrier?

2. Is 1hr35 at FRA manageable? Or would I be better off trying to switch to an earlier MUC-FRA flight?

3. Will I have any lounge access at MUC (OWE)?

Thanks for any info.
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Old Jul 15, 2019, 8:54 pm
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Originally Posted by Offshore171
Hi all,

I have an upcoming CX booking from MUC to HKG.

The first sector is Lufthansa and goes to Frankfurt. LH101 (sold as CX6716)

From there, it’s a 1hr35 minute connection to the CX 288 HKG flight.

It’s all on one CX PNR and travelling as Oneworld Emerald.

Questions:

1. Will the bags be checked right through from MUC, noting that LH is not a Oneworld carrier?

2. Is 1hr35 at FRA manageable? Or would I be better off trying to switch to an earlier MUC-FRA flight?

3. Will I have any lounge access at MUC (OWE)?

Thanks for any info.
1. Yes.
2. Should be. MCT is 45 min. (or 60 min. if you were booked on the LH prime flight)
3. No, only at FRA.

Code:
W/*LH‡*CX«                                                      
 LH-220 LUFTHANSA/DEUTSCHE LUFTHANSA AG                         
                                                                
   MAY ISSUE TICKETS INCLUDING                                  
       CX-160 CATHAY PACIFIC AIRWAYS/CATHAY PACIFIC AIRWAYS LTD 
                                                                
   MAY CHECK BAGGAGE TO                                         
       CX                                                       
T*CT-FRA/CXCX/DI«                                               
STANDARD.D/D...D/I...I/D...I/I.                                 
ONLINE    .45   .45   .45   .45                                 
OFFLINE   .45   .45   .45   .45                                 
** OR * ARE ALL                                                 
CX-CX DI   .45 FLT 6700 - 6799 - ALL  ALL - HKG                 
CX-CX DI SUP   FLT 6700 - 6799 - ALL                            
**-CX DI  1.00 ALL - HKG                                        
**-CX DI   .45                                                  
**-** DI  4.00 INTER FRA - HHN                                  
**-** DI  4.00 INTER HHN - FRA                                  
T*CT-FRA/LHCX/DI«                                               
STANDARD.D/D...D/I...I/D...I/I.                                 
ONLINE    .45   .45   .45   .45                                 
OFFLINE   .45   .45   .45   .45                                 
** OR * ARE ALL                                                 
LH-CX DI  1.00                                                  
**-CX DI  1.00 ALL - HKG                                        
**-CX DI   .45                                                  
LH-** DI  1.00 KLT - ALL EQP BUS - ALL                          
LH-** DI  1.00 SDA - ALL EQP BUS - ALL                          
LH-** DI  1.00 QKL - ALL                                        
LH-** DI  1.00 QKU - ALL                                        
LH-** DI  1.00 QDU - ALL                                        
LH-** DI  1.00 KJR - ALL                                        
LH-** DI  1.00 KWQ - ALL                                        
LH-** DI  1.00 ZWS - ALL                                        
LH-** DI  1.00 EQP ALL - TRN                                    
LH-** DI  1.00 ALL - UNITED STATES                              
**-** DI  4.00 INTER FRA - HHN                                  
**-** DI  4.00 INTER HHN - FRA
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Old Jul 15, 2019, 9:43 pm
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Originally Posted by Offshore171
Hi all,

I have an upcoming CX booking from MUC to HKG.

The first sector is Lufthansa and goes to Frankfurt. LH101 (sold as CX6716)

From there, it’s a 1hr35 minute connection to the CX 288 HKG flight.

It’s all on one CX PNR and travelling as Oneworld Emerald.

Questions:

1. Will the bags be checked right through from MUC, noting that LH is not a Oneworld carrier?

2. Is 1hr35 at FRA manageable? Or would I be better off trying to switch to an earlier MUC-FRA flight?

3. Will I have any lounge access at MUC (OWE)?

Thanks for any info.
You may also consider switching to LH730 direct from MUC to HKG. CX has started to codeshare with LH on that flight starting this month and you get to fly on their A380, though of course CX's J hardware is miles ahead of LH's.
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Old Jul 15, 2019, 10:26 pm
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Originally Posted by ernestnywang
1. Yes.
2. Should be. MCT is 45 min. (or 60 min. if you were booked on the LH prime flight)

Thanks for this info. The official MCT seems really low, especially considering it's a Schengen to Non, so I will need to go through passport formalities.

The other concern is a late arrival of the MUC to FRA flight. It's in January, so there may be delays for deicing operations.


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Old Jul 15, 2019, 10:34 pm
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Originally Posted by Central90210
You may also consider switching to LH730 direct from MUC to HKG. CX has started to codeshare with LH on that flight starting this month and you get to fly on their A380, though of course CX's J hardware is miles ahead of LH's.
Thanks, good suggestion, I may phone for a price to switch. It's a PE seat.
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Old Jul 16, 2019, 3:36 am
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Actually I have a related question: do you get priority bag tags or extra baggage allowance for this itinerary, given that you will be checking in with LH, who is not a Oneworld carrier?
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Old Jul 16, 2019, 7:17 pm
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Lat month, I just flied Berlin to FRA by LH and connect CX 288 to HKG, quite similar as your trip.
95 mins transfer time is enough as long as there is no delay by LH.
But I recommend to leave it at least 2.5 hours.

1. LH arrives in Terminal 1 but CX departs from Terminal 2. Traveling between two terminals takes quite some time particularly when you are not familar with FRA.
I remember my first time to FRA many years ago. It was like a maze!
2. Passport check could possibly take a long queue too particularly when you are not an EU passport holder.
3. Security check is OK. It locates right before the boarding gates, same as SIN does. Usually during that time, the security check station is exclusive to CX flight.

If you could rebook the LH flight with no extra charge, taking earlier flight is recommended.
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Old Jul 17, 2019, 2:19 am
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Thanks for the info, that’s very helpful.
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Old Jul 17, 2019, 7:21 am
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Originally Posted by lixiaojuventus
Actually I have a related question: do you get priority bag tags or extra baggage allowance for this itinerary, given that you will be checking in with LH, who is not a Oneworld carrier?
No, at least one is not entitled to. However, sometimes CX will put the priority tag on when they receive the bag from another carrier. I don't know if they do that at FRA, but I've seen this done at LAX and some other North American ports.
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Old Jul 18, 2019, 12:15 am
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Originally Posted by ernestnywang
No, at least one is not entitled to. However, sometimes CX will put the priority tag on when they receive the bag from another carrier. I don't know if they do that at FRA, but I've seen this done at LAX and some other North American ports.
I see. This scenario makes sense to me. On the other hand, if I can show that I have *G status, then I will be entitled to receive a *A Priority tag from LH/LX right? However, I'm not sure whether CX will treat it as Priority or not when they receive the bag
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Old Jul 18, 2019, 9:24 am
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Originally Posted by lixiaojuventus
I see. This scenario makes sense to me. On the other hand, if I can show that I have *G status, then I will be entitled to receive a *A Priority tag from LH/LX right? However, I'm not sure whether CX will treat it as Priority or not when they receive the bag
The SA priority tag means nothing to CX.
If CX was the carrier to the final destination, only OW elite status or J/F passengers’ bags would get priority
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Old Jul 18, 2019, 9:38 am
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Originally Posted by wyskevin

The SA priority tag means nothing to CX.
If CX was the carrier to the final destination, only OW elite status or J/F passengers’ bags would get priority
I see. So there is no way I can get a Priority tag on a LX-CX itinerary then? It seems that neither my *G status or my CX status will get me priority baggage treatment.
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Old Jul 18, 2019, 9:50 am
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Originally Posted by lixiaojuventus
I see. So there is no way I can get a Priority tag on a LX-CX itinerary then? It seems that neither my *G status or my CX status will get me priority baggage treatment.
I suppose you are SA G and CX green? If so, your bag would have priority when you fly HKG-FRA-MUC(or any LH/LX flight). The rule is simple- the last carrier of the itinerary dominates it
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Old Jul 18, 2019, 10:13 am
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Originally Posted by wyskevin

I suppose you are SA G and CX green? If so, your bag would have priority when you fly HKG-FRA-MUC(or any LH/LX flight). The rule is simple- the last carrier of the itinerary dominates it
Does LH or LX add priority tag for *G when transferred from a non-*A carrier?
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Old Jul 18, 2019, 10:53 am
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Originally Posted by ernestnywang
Does LH or LX add priority tag for *G when transferred from a non-*A carrier?
To be honest, I don’t know how the LH baggage system works. Either the system would identify SA G automatically and lead ground crew in FRA to put a priority tag on it ( this is how CX does in HKG) or the system would not recognize the status at all! If the later, passenger can always request it at Senator lounge. I’m sure the lounge crew would be happy to assist
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