What's up with ridiculously expensive one-way tickets from CX site?
Out of curiousity, I looked at tickets for Edinburgh <-> Hong Kong, since it's the only route I really fly anyways. Why is one-way much more expensive than returns? I'm looking at £2400 for EDI-HKG but £1500 for a return.
Hypothetically, could I get a return and cancel the return part? |
Nothing unique to CX, most network airlines do this to push business travelers to buy more expensive flexible tickets. You can buy a return and not use it
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Originally Posted by ajeleonard
(Post 31145575)
Nothing unique to CX, most network airlines do this to push business travelers to buy more expensive flexible tickets. You can buy a return and not use it
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Originally Posted by the_emerald
(Post 31145585)
Wouldn't that incur the no-show charge? It's still cheaper than one-way... still.
Your return is probably the cheapest available, completely inflexible, non-refundable, etc. When you "not" fly segments, the ticket is not void, but still does have a value, which you can use for a later date. To change the booking for a later date, you have to contact the airline. Depending on the ticket conditions, you have to pay a change-fee and (if you did no-show on the original flight), have to pay the no-show fee. Both fees are subtracted from the remaining ticket value. For low cost tickets, this results in zero remaining ticket value, so your changed date flight will need a new ticket. Be aware, the new ticket can be significantly more expensive, since often the lower tickets classes are sold-out and you have to purchase a very expensive full-flex ticket at walk-in rate. I have never heard of airlines chasing after passengers with a no-show, though if you have a missed connection, with separate tickets/PNR's you are probably going to pay a lot more. What might happen, if you intentionally miss a last segment on a cheap married ticket, that the airline will try to "rebook" you to the destination where you dropped off. That can be a significant cost, though they will need to have good reasons to do so. Given the difference in pricing, it often happens, people purchase a return in-stead of a one-way and just throw away the return leg (ie no show). |
Originally Posted by Cambo
(Post 31145653)
One-ways are notoriously booked in the highest most flexible booking class and as such expensive.
Your return is probably the cheapest available, completely inflexible, non-refundable, etc... |
Originally Posted by the_emerald
(Post 31145700)
You're right - I mistakenly looked at Standard tickets for the £1500 figure. It's actually £1900 for the Flex return tickets. The figure for one way is Flex however. Still doesn't explain the huge price parity. Could I simply call them after I fly the one-way and cancel the return + ask for a refund? Even if I get zero dollars back I'm still better off.
What you can try to do, is if, you want to fly PE or J, is get the outbound in J and the return in the cheapest Y. That'll result in a return ticket, where you are maybe able to get a low-price J fee and a low-price Y fee. For this, you have to call in. Never mention, you are going to drop the return leg. |
Originally Posted by the_emerald
(Post 31145700)
You're right - I mistakenly looked at Standard tickets for the £1500 figure. It's actually £1900 for the Flex return tickets. The figure for one way is Flex however. Still doesn't explain the huge price parity. Could I simply call them after I fly the one-way and cancel the return + ask for a refund? Even if I get zero dollars back I'm still better off.
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Originally Posted by Cambo
(Post 31145742)
When you "change" a ticket, they will recalculate for the new route and you'll be back at the original pricing for the one-way + rebooking fees. So, if the departure of your virtual return is going to be set in stone, and you don't need the flexibility on departure: Just purchase the cheapest return.
What you can try to do, is if, you want to fly PE or J, is get the outbound in J and the return in the cheapest Y. That'll result in a return ticket, where you are maybe able to get a low-price J fee and a low-price Y fee. For this, you have to call in. Never mention, you are going to drop the return leg. Like @flubber said, even if I call in to get a cheap "virtual" Y return, I might have to pay on top to cancel the flight? Sounds awful. I wonder what the cancellation fees are in general. Even if worst case I book a virtual PY return for £1900, that would still be a £400 cancellation fee before I break even. Thoughts? EDIT: It would appear that common sense has eluded me. Of course - the refund fee is deducted from however much the cost of the unflown sectors were. |
Originally Posted by the_emerald
(Post 31145768)
Like @flubber said, even if I call in to get a cheap "virtual" Y return, I might have to pay on top to cancel the flight? Sounds awful. I wonder what the cancellation fees are in general.
Even if worst case I book a virtual PY return for £1900, that would still be a £400 cancellation fee before I break even. Thoughts? i usually get presented EUR 300 cancellation fee (it's visible in the ticket conditions, when you book). YMMV. |
Originally Posted by Cambo
(Post 31145836)
My suggestion is a mixed cabin booking, where your return is in the cheapest flying (and if possible booking) class. Whenever you go the cancel-return route, your WHOLE ticket will be recalculated to the factual one-way flight you fly and expensive again (+ cancel fee). Forget about cancellation, refunds, etc, unless you have pretty flexible tickets (you would know so, since you would have paid a fortune for it). Just buy the cheapest return, when possible/wanted mixed cabin :D
i usually get presented EUR 300 cancellation fee (it's visible in the ticket conditions, when you book). YMMV. |
Originally Posted by the_emerald
(Post 31145852)
300 euros, ouch!! If I do try this, I should get the cheapest ticket possible for the virtual return, then... no show? I thought no-show fees were always higher than cancellation.
And the rebooking fee is also EUR 300.00. So, I plan my connections carefully, so I am pretty sure, to be "on-time". Though these are J class fees. Just go the no-show route. Though you have to phone in to CX to get a mixed cabin ticket, which in turn would be another nasty experience, sorry, I did not mention this earlier. Unless you are a DM, expect to be on hold for an hour or longer. You may want to try by email, maybe that's easier/faster, I don't know. Expect another fee for "over the phone booking", for items they don't sell on-line. Some EUR 40 or so. |
Originally Posted by Cambo
(Post 31145884)
The no-show fee would be another EUR 300.00 :D
And the rebooking fee is also EUR 300.00. So, I plan my connections carefully, so I am pretty sure, to be "on-time". Though these are J class fees. Just go the no-show route. Though you have to phone in to CX to get a mixed cabin ticket, which in turn would be another nasty experience, sorry, I did not mention this earlier. Unless you are a DM, expect to be on hold for an hour or longer. You may want to try by email, maybe that's easier/faster, I don't know. Expect another fee for "over the phone booking", for items they don't sell on-line. Some EUR 40 or so. |
Originally Posted by the_emerald
(Post 31145908)
So what that means is, if I buy a mixed ticket with a Y return leg that I will never fly, I will be charged the no-show plus rebooking fee if I try to claim a refund? I assume that they won't charge my card automatically when I no-show. Or can I avoid the no-show fee by calling them beforehand and saying "oops I can't fly haha" (then applying for a refund to see if I get a penny back)
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Originally Posted by the_emerald
(Post 31145908)
So what that means is, if I buy a mixed ticket with a Y return leg that I will never fly, I will be charged the no-show plus rebooking fee if I try to claim a refund? I assume that they won't charge my card automatically when I no-show. Or can I avoid the no-show fee by calling them beforehand and saying "oops I can't fly haha" (then applying for a refund to see if I get a penny back)
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I didn’t think CX did mixed cabin bookings. At least, I couldn’t do it for HKG-MLE. |
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