How do you go from S9 to Y0 in a day?
#1
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Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: HKG
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How do you go from S9 to Y0 in a day?
So I was looking at a flight
CX 100 SYD - HKG for departure tomorrow
yesterday it was S9. Today it is Y0!
Similar with all the other ex-SYD departures on the day.
How does that happen? They sold a whole bunch of tickets in the interim? Sounds possible I guess.
I was banking on the flight not being so full... but looks like we are in for a full flight now
CX 100 SYD - HKG for departure tomorrow
yesterday it was S9. Today it is Y0!
Similar with all the other ex-SYD departures on the day.
How does that happen? They sold a whole bunch of tickets in the interim? Sounds possible I guess.
I was banking on the flight not being so full... but looks like we are in for a full flight now
#2
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Brisbane, Australia
Posts: 909
Not 100% sure but my here is my theory:
CX have two different 777 versions they typically send to Sydney, one has 268 Economy seats (77G 3-3-3 config) and the other has 296 economy seats (77K 3-4-3 config). They often a day or two change the aircraft in the system depending on load - so whilst you might have had the 296 seats loaded in (despite still seeing the 3-3-3 seat map), they have changed this to the 3-3-3 aircraft reducing the number of seats by 28.
Lately, they've been running the 77G with the 3-3-3 config on CX100/101 but they could swap that out last minute with the larger one at the last minute but in a worst case scenario they've got 28 overbookings which they could either upgrade (if space left in higher cabins) or move to a different CX, VA or QF service.
CX have two different 777 versions they typically send to Sydney, one has 268 Economy seats (77G 3-3-3 config) and the other has 296 economy seats (77K 3-4-3 config). They often a day or two change the aircraft in the system depending on load - so whilst you might have had the 296 seats loaded in (despite still seeing the 3-3-3 seat map), they have changed this to the 3-3-3 aircraft reducing the number of seats by 28.
Lately, they've been running the 77G with the 3-3-3 config on CX100/101 but they could swap that out last minute with the larger one at the last minute but in a worst case scenario they've got 28 overbookings which they could either upgrade (if space left in higher cabins) or move to a different CX, VA or QF service.
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#9
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#13
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Here's my two cents. With my borderline-obsessive monitoring of EF, I've noticed this many times before, especially on the week of departure. FWIW, these have all been short-haul routes with high frequencies, and whenever this happens, the flights are mostly overbooked (resulting in op-ups from Y).
I've taken it to be the CX revenue management algorithms in play. They'll try to sell whatever they can - and have capacity for - a few days prior to departure (Y may be already overbooked, but W/J may have seats to op-up people to). This just happened to me over the weekend. I booked a flight on Friday (at the time S9) and when I checked EF on Sunday, it was Y0. And I think I must have witnessed this at least a dozen times before.
Of course, with OP's case, the underlying reasons might be different (CI disruptions etc.). However, I see this as something that CX does regularly (at least on some routes) rather than a special situation.
I've taken it to be the CX revenue management algorithms in play. They'll try to sell whatever they can - and have capacity for - a few days prior to departure (Y may be already overbooked, but W/J may have seats to op-up people to). This just happened to me over the weekend. I booked a flight on Friday (at the time S9) and when I checked EF on Sunday, it was Y0. And I think I must have witnessed this at least a dozen times before.
Of course, with OP's case, the underlying reasons might be different (CI disruptions etc.). However, I see this as something that CX does regularly (at least on some routes) rather than a special situation.
#14
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Here's my two cents. With my borderline-obsessive monitoring of EF, I've noticed this many times before, especially on the week of departure. FWIW, these have all been short-haul routes with high frequencies, and whenever this happens, the flights are mostly overbooked (resulting in op-ups from Y).
I've taken it to be the CX revenue management algorithms in play. They'll try to sell whatever they can - and have capacity for - a few days prior to departure (Y may be already overbooked, but W/J may have seats to op-up people to). This just happened to me over the weekend. I booked a flight on Friday (at the time S9) and when I checked EF on Sunday, it was Y0. And I think I must have witnessed this at least a dozen times before.
Of course, with OP's case, the underlying reasons might be different (CI disruptions etc.). However, I see this as something that CX does regularly (at least on some routes) rather than a special situation.
I've taken it to be the CX revenue management algorithms in play. They'll try to sell whatever they can - and have capacity for - a few days prior to departure (Y may be already overbooked, but W/J may have seats to op-up people to). This just happened to me over the weekend. I booked a flight on Friday (at the time S9) and when I checked EF on Sunday, it was Y0. And I think I must have witnessed this at least a dozen times before.
Of course, with OP's case, the underlying reasons might be different (CI disruptions etc.). However, I see this as something that CX does regularly (at least on some routes) rather than a special situation.
#15
Join Date: Sep 2005
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Here's my two cents. With my borderline-obsessive monitoring of EF, I've noticed this many times before, especially on the week of departure. FWIW, these have all been short-haul routes with high frequencies, and whenever this happens, the flights are mostly overbooked (resulting in op-ups from Y).
I've taken it to be the CX revenue management algorithms in play. They'll try to sell whatever they can - and have capacity for - a few days prior to departure (Y may be already overbooked, but W/J may have seats to op-up people to). This just happened to me over the weekend. I booked a flight on Friday (at the time S9) and when I checked EF on Sunday, it was Y0. And I think I must have witnessed this at least a dozen times before.
Of course, with OP's case, the underlying reasons might be different (CI disruptions etc.). However, I see this as something that CX does regularly (at least on some routes) rather than a special situation.
I've taken it to be the CX revenue management algorithms in play. They'll try to sell whatever they can - and have capacity for - a few days prior to departure (Y may be already overbooked, but W/J may have seats to op-up people to). This just happened to me over the weekend. I booked a flight on Friday (at the time S9) and when I checked EF on Sunday, it was Y0. And I think I must have witnessed this at least a dozen times before.
Of course, with OP's case, the underlying reasons might be different (CI disruptions etc.). However, I see this as something that CX does regularly (at least on some routes) rather than a special situation.