Qantas and Cathay relationship starts to thaw - application to put CX code on QF
#16
Join Date: May 2014
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The proposed flights which are covered by the application is interesting:
Qantas says proposed Cathay codeshare to offer passengers more choice
Qantas says proposed Cathay codeshare to offer passengers more choice
#17
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: HKG
Posts: 1,497
Some further information here:
https://www.flightglobal.com/news/ar...petiti-455655/
It says that the codeshare only applies for through tickets to non-HKG destinations, not the purely HKG-Australia routes. But it doesn't seem to make sense. It seems that QF wants to make use of the CX network to fly to CX destinations such as India. So it sounds to me that this is more QF putting their code on CX metal, rather than the other way around.
CX putting their code on QF metal wouldn't create a through connection unless CX wants to sell itineraries such as HKG-SYD-CBR
https://www.flightglobal.com/news/ar...petiti-455655/
It says that the codeshare only applies for through tickets to non-HKG destinations, not the purely HKG-Australia routes. But it doesn't seem to make sense. It seems that QF wants to make use of the CX network to fly to CX destinations such as India. So it sounds to me that this is more QF putting their code on CX metal, rather than the other way around.
CX putting their code on QF metal wouldn't create a through connection unless CX wants to sell itineraries such as HKG-SYD-CBR
#18
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Some further information here:
https://www.flightglobal.com/news/ar...petiti-455655/
It says that the codeshare only applies for through tickets to non-HKG destinations, not the purely HKG-Australia routes. But it doesn't seem to make sense. It seems that QF wants to make use of the CX network to fly to CX destinations such as India. So it sounds to me that this is more QF putting their code on CX metal, rather than the other way around.
CX putting their code on QF metal wouldn't create a through connection unless CX wants to sell itineraries such as HKG-SYD-CBR
https://www.flightglobal.com/news/ar...petiti-455655/
It says that the codeshare only applies for through tickets to non-HKG destinations, not the purely HKG-Australia routes. But it doesn't seem to make sense. It seems that QF wants to make use of the CX network to fly to CX destinations such as India. So it sounds to me that this is more QF putting their code on CX metal, rather than the other way around.
CX putting their code on QF metal wouldn't create a through connection unless CX wants to sell itineraries such as HKG-SYD-CBR
If CX has excess capacity, why not have QF sell some for them?
#19
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Draft ruling rejects this codeshare application:
https://australianaviation.com.au/20...hare-rejected/
https://australianaviation.com.au/20...hare-rejected/
#20
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Final judgement rejects this code sharing arrangement:
https://www.smh.com.au/business/comp...23-p529zi.html
“After considering further submissions, the International Air Services Commission doubled down on its rejection in a final decision on Tuesday.
The commission said the deal would entrench and further Qantas and Cathay's dominant market position on flights between Australia and Hong Kong, which already represents more than 90 per cent of passengers, which would lead to an increase in air fares.”
https://www.smh.com.au/business/comp...23-p529zi.html
“After considering further submissions, the International Air Services Commission doubled down on its rejection in a final decision on Tuesday.
The commission said the deal would entrench and further Qantas and Cathay's dominant market position on flights between Australia and Hong Kong, which already represents more than 90 per cent of passengers, which would lead to an increase in air fares.”
#21
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That's an unusual rejection by the The Australian Competition and Consumer Commission. But I am quite happy with it. The deal would have completely thawed competition on the route.