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Beginner's recommendation (rates quoted before other short term promotions):
(Just one for now) BEA Flyer World Master - 1 mile per $5 for local purchases / overseas purchases; 1 mile per $8 for Octopus AAVS (no fee)

Credit Cards that are by Invitation Only or Applied in lieu with an Account:

1. WLB Luxe Visa Infinite - 1 mile per $2.4 for overseas airline / travel / hotel / dining; $4/mile on local airline / travel / hotel / dining ($50/5,000 miles min $50 max $500) (Need to be Wing Lung Private Banking customers)
2. BoC Wealth Management Visa Infinite - 1 mile per $15 for local / overseas / octopus AAVS / bill payment, 1 mile per $5 for overseas spending / local dining, 1 mile per $2.5 for overseas spending / local dining if that month's accumulated spending is over $15000 ($50/5,000 miles min $100 max $300) (Need to be BoC Wealth Management (中銀理財) customer)
3. HSBC Premier World Master for 6X (select one category only below, 1 mile per $4.16. Under this promotion, cap at $100,000), and all other seasonal promotions. ($300 fee for a year's worth of redemption) [to 31 Dec 2019] (Need to be HSBC Premier customer)
4. BoC Enrich World MC - 1 mile per $15 for local / overseas / octopus AAVS / bill payment, 1 mile per $3 for dining/dept store if that month's accumulated spending is over $15000 ($50/5,000 miles min $100 max $300) (Need to be BoC Enrich (智盈理財) customer)
5. HSBC Advance Platinum Visa for 6X (select one category only below, 1 mile per $4.16. Under this promotion, cap at $100,000), and all other seasonal promotions. ($300 fee for a year's worth of redemption) [to 31 Dec 2019] (Need to be HSBC Advance customer)
6. Citibank Ultima card - 1 mile per $4 for local / overseas / octopus (no redemption fee, $23,800 non-waivable annual fee) (Need to be Citigold Private Client customer AND by Invitation only)
7. SCB Priority Banking Visa Infinite - $7.5 per mile for local spending ($15 per mile for Insurance Spending (NOT BILL PAYMENT)) and Octopus, $5 per mile overseas spending ($300 flat redemption fee) (Need to be SCB Priority Banking customer) Note 2
8. BEA Supreme Gold World Master - 1 mile per $5 for local /overseas / Octopus / Bill Payment (Excluding the following categories: Education, Insurance and Tax) (no fee) (Need to be BEA Supreme Gold (顯卓理財) customer) Note 3
9. Shacom World Master - 1 mile per $8 local purchases / overseas / octopus ($10 per 1,000AM min $100 max $500) (Need to be Shacom SMART Banking (慧通理財) customer)
10. CCB HK Visa Infinite - 1 mile per $8 spent for Local Spending / Overseas Spending / Octopus / Bill payment ($50 per 5,000 miles AM min $100) (Need to be CCB Premier Banking (貴賓理財) / Premier Select (貴賓晉裕) customer)

Full list:

I. Overseas
1. BOC Travel Rewards Visa Signature Card - 8% rebate for each transaction >$500 overseas spending (max $500 per month) (requirement: 1. overseas transaction for that month (any amount per transaction) > $6,000; 2. three times local spending (any amount)) plus 1 mile per $15
2. BoC Wealth Management Visa Infinite - 1 mile per $2.5 for overseas spending / local dining if that month's accumulated spending is over $15000 ($50/5,000 miles min $100 max $300) (Need to be BoC Wealth Management (中銀理財) customer)
3. [to 31 Dec 2019] HSBC (excluding amounts billed in HK and PRC) - 1 mile / $2.78 (HSBC Visa Signature) / $4.16 (other HSBC Credit Cards INCLUDING HSBC Premier World Master) spent (select Overseas Spending category ONLY) / $6.25 (HSBC Visa Signature) spent (NOT select Overseas Spending category) ($300 fee for a year's worth of redemptions)** ++
4. (if ONLINE / PAYWAVE) CCB HK eye Card - 1 mile / $2.14 (inclusive of 5X online bonus, cap at $50,000 per calender year and (2X extra overseas bonus, cap at $75000 per membership year ) ($50 per 5,000 miles min $100)
5. Citibank Premiermiles (>=$20K per billing cycle) (excluding RMB and MOP) - 1 mile per $3 spent (no redemption fee)** ++
6. [to 31 Dec 2018] DBS Eminent (excluding MOP) - 1 mile per $3.6 spent ($50 fee per 5,000 miles)
7. [to 28 Feb 2019] Fubon Platinum / Titanium - 1 mile per $3.75 spent ($50/5,000AM min $250 max $500) (plus 133 Sure win miles if txn amt >$600)
Note: 1 mile per $0.75 for TWD spendings in Taiwan (max $5,000/month and $10,000/year), and 1 mile per $1.875 for KRW and JPY spendings in Korea and Japan (Seperate registration needed, max $20,000/month, two months per calendar year max)
8. Amex Plat Charge - 1 mile per $3.75 spent (first $160,000 spending, $5/mile thereafter, $200 flat redemption fee)
9. Citibank Prestige / Premiermiles (<$20K) (excluding RMB and MOP) - 1 mile per $4 spent (no redemption fee, $2,500 non-waivable annual fee for the Prestige)** ++
10. DBS Black World Master (excluding MOP) - 1 mile per $4 spent overseas (no fee)
11. SCB Asia Miles World Master - 1 mile per $4 spent (automatic conversion)
12. Amex CX Elite - 1 mile per $4 spent (automatic conversion)
13. BEA Flyer World Master / Supreme Gold World Master - 1 mile per $5 (no fee)
14. CCB HK Platinum Visa / Platinum Master - 1 mile per $5 ($50 per 5,000 miles min $100)
15. SCB Priority Banking Visa Infinite - 1 mile per $5 spent ($300 flat fee redemption)**

: DO NOT Award points for DCC Transactions

II. Supermarket, dept store, Telecommunications bills on autopay:
1A . [to 31 Dec 2019] HSBC - 1 mile / $2.78 (HSBC Visa Signature)/$4.16 (other HSBC Credit Cards INCLUDING HSBC Premier World Master) spent# (select Home Spending category ONLY) ($300 fee for a year's worth of redemptions)** ++
1B. [to 31 Dec 2019] HSBC - 1 mile / $2.78 (HSBC Visa Signature)/$4.16 (other HSBC Credit Cards INCLUDING HSBC Premier World Master) spent# (select Lifestyle Spending category ONLY) ($300 fee for a year's worth of redemptions)** ++
1C. [to 31 Dec 2019] HSBC - 1 mile / $2.78 (HSBC Visa Signature)/$4.16 (other HSBC Credit Cards INCLUDING HSBC Premier World Master) spent# (select Entertainment Spending category ONLY) ($300 fee for a year's worth of redemptions)** ++
2. Citibank Rewards - 1 mile / $3 spent ($50 fee per 5,000 mile redeemed) (on first $12,500 spending per statement month) Note 2** ++
3. (if ONLINE / PAYWAVE) CCB HK eye Card - 1 mile / $3 (inclusive of 5X online bonus, cap at $75000 per calender year ($50 per 5,000 miles AM min $100)

III. Dining
1. [to 31 Dec 2019] HSBC - 1 mile / $2.78 (HSBC Visa Signature) / $4.16 (other HSBC Credit Cards INCLUDING HSBC Premier World Master) spent# (select Dining Spending category ONLY) ($300 fee for a year's worth of redemptions)** ++
1b. [to 31 Dec 2019] HSBC (non-Visa Signature, INCLUDING HSBC Premier World Master) (select Dining category) - 1 mile / $4.16 ($300 fee for a year's worth of redemptions)** ++
1c. [to 31 Dec 2019] HSBC Visa Signature (did not select Dining category) - 1 mile / $6.25 ($300 fee for a year's worth of redemptions) ** ++
2. SCB Asia Miles World Master - 1 mile per $4 spent (automatic conversion)
3. BEA Flyer World Master - 1 mile / $5 (no fee)
Note: Restaurants in hotels sometimes are regarded as "Hotel" under V/M classification and thus ineligible for any dining promotions, using CUP can usually (but not always) get around this problem

IV. Travel agents:
** ++1. [to 31 Dec 2019] HSBC - 1 mile / $2.78 (HSBC Visa Signature) / $4.16 (other HSBC Credit Cards INCLUDING HSBC Premier World Master) spent# (select LifeStyle Spending category ONLY)/ $6.25 (HSBC Visa Signature NOT selecting LifeStyle Spending category)($300 fee for a year's worth of redemptions)
2. CCB HK EYE (if online) - 1 mile per $2.14 spent (First $50,000 only) ($50 per 5,000 miles AM min $100)
3. Amex Plat Charge - 1 mile per $3.75 spent (first $160,000 spending, $5/mile thereafter, $200 flat redemption fee)

V. Other retail spending
1. [to 14 Mar 19] (if online or Apple Pay) CCB HK Premier Banking Visa Infinite - 1 mile per $2.67 spent ($50 per 5,000 miles AM min $100) (first $12.5K spending ONLINE per month only, else $8 per mile)
2. CCB HK eye Card - 1 mile per $3 ($50 per 5,000 miles AM min $100) (ONLINE or PAYWAVE Spending ONLY, else $15 per mile)
3. (if online) SCB Asia Miles World Master - 1 mile per $4 spent (automatic conversion) (ONLINE spending ONLY, else $6 per mile)
4. BEA Flyer World Master / BEA Supreme Gold World Master - 1 mile per $5 spent (no fee) Note 3
** 5. SCB WorldMiles AE - 1 mile per $6 spent ($300 flat redemption fee)
** ++ 6. Citibank Prestige - 1 mile per $6 spent (no redemption fee, $2,500 non-waiveable annual fee)
7. Amex CX Elite - 1 mile per $6 spent (automatic conversion)
8. DBS Black World Master - 1 mile per $6 spent (no fee)
9. [to 31 Dec 2018] DBS Eminent - 1 mile per $7.2 spent ($50 fee per 5,000 miles)
10. [to 28 Feb 2019] Fubon Platinum / Titanium - 1 mile per $7.5 spent spending >=$300 on Saturdays and Sundays ($50/5,000AM min $250 max $500) (plus 133 Sure win miles if txn amt >$600 (if NOT ONLINE))
** 11. SCB Priority Banking Visa Infinite - 1 mile per $7.5 spent ($300 flat redemption fee)
** ++ 12. Amex (Gold grade and higher) - 1 mile per $7.5 spent (to $160,000), $200 flat redemption fee). (1 mile per $3 spent for 5x shops and 1 mile per $1.5 spent for 10x shops)
** ++ 13. Citibank Premiermiles - 1 mile per $8 spent (no fee)
13. Shacom World Master / Platinum / Titanium / Diamond UnionPay - 1 mile per $8 spent ($10 per 1,000AM min $100 max $500)

VI. Bill payments (Excluding Tax or any payment to IRD)
VI A. General Bill Payments
1. CCB HK Visa Infinite and CCB HK Diamond Prestige - 1 mile per $8 spent ($50 per 5,000 miles AM min $100 max $300)
2. CCB HK Platinum Visa / CCB HK Platinum Master / CCB HK Platinum Dual Currency UnionPay - 1 mile per $15 spent (Each Card Membership Year cap at 12 times of credit limit)
3. BoC Wealth Management Visa Infinite / BoC Platinum Visa & Master / BoC Platinum Dual Currency Unionpay - 1 mile per $15 spent (Each Card cap at $10,000 per Month) ($50/5,000 miles min $100)
4. HSBC Platinum Visa / Advance Platinum Visa / Premier World Master / Visa Signature / Green Card - 1 mile per $25 spent (cap at $10,000 per Month)
VI B. Specific bill payment merchants who accept autopay for higher earn rates (by merchant)
1. Towngas autopay - Citi Prestige $6/mile
2. CLP autopay - Citi Prestige $6/mile, BEA $5/AM
3. HKE - Alipay HKE (rever to IX.iii earn rates), DBS Black $6/AM

Note 1: Other issuers in Hong Kong DO NOT award bonus points for bill payment

VII. Octopus Automatic Add-Value
** ++ 1. Citibank Prestige - 1 mile per $6 spent (no redemption fee, $2,500 non-waiveable annual fee)
2. SCB Asia Miles World Master - 1 mile per $6 spent (automatic conversion)
** 3. SCB Priority Banking Visa Infinite - 1 mile per $7.5 spent ($300 flat redemption fee)
4. BEA Flyer World Master / BEA Supreme Gold World Master - 1 mile per $8 spent (no fee) Note 3
5. CCB HK Visa Infinite and CCB HK Diamond Prestige - 1 mile per $8 spent ($50 per 5,000 miles AM min $100 max $300)
** ++ 6. Citibank Premiermiles - 1 mile per $8 spent (no fee)
7. Shacom World Master / Platinum / Titanium / Diamond UnionPay - 1 mile per $8 spent ($10 per 1,000AM min $100 max $500)
8. Bankcomm Diamond Dual Currency Card - 1 mile per HK$12 spent ($50 per 5,000 AM min $100 max $300)
9. HSBC (all HKD cards) - 1 mile per $25 spent

VIII. China Unionpay RMB spending

** ++1. [to 31 Dec 2019] HSBC Dual Currency Unionpay card - 1 mile per RMB4.16 spent (select China Spending category ONLY) ($300 fee for a year's worth of redemptions)
2. Bankcomm Diamond Dual Currency Card - 1 mile per RMB6 spent for restaurants or hotels spending >= RMB300, 1 per RMB12 spent other categories ($50 per 5,000 AM min $100 max $300)
3. CCB HK Diamond Prestige - 1 mile per RMB8 spent ($50 per 5,000 miles AM min $100 max $300)
4. Shacom Diamond UnionPay - 1 mile per RMB8 spent ($10 per 1,000AM min $100 max $500)
5. BoC Dual Currency Unionpay Card - 1 mile per RMB15 spent ($50/5,000 miles min $100)

IX. Electronic wallets (in descending chronological order):
i. Payme
https://www.mrmiles.hk/payme/
http://flyformiles.hk/8847
ii. Wechat
http://flyformiles.hk/8847
https://www.mrmiles.hk/wechat-pay/
iii. Alipay P2P
http://flyformiles.hk/8847
https://www.mrmiles.hk/alipay/
iv. O!epay (Oepay): see VII. Octopus Automatic Add-Value above

Note 2:
** can opt for Krisflyer miles in lieu
++ can opt for BAEC AVIOS in lieu
For HSBC, ONLY Premier World Master holders are able to opt for BAEC Avios and KrisFlyer Miles

Note 3:
BEA Supreme Gold World Master cardholders need to register in advance for the "BEA Mileage Reward" scheme during application (Supreme Gold account opening), or else pay $1800 penalty to register thereafter.

HK miles/hotel points earning ability
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Old Jan 9, 19, 7:05 pm
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Originally Posted by barracuda93 View Post
The only country where I know it's perfectly affordable is Russia LOL. In Taiwan it's 35000 TWD per year, which is completely insane. Can't imagine how people justify that (for miles earning there are better cards).
In certain markets (possibly HK and TW) I think there are some people who are willing to pay a premium for the just the 'status' of having a metal Amex Plat card even if benefits aren't that great.

The card is very reasonable in Scandinavia -- about HKD 3,500 if I remember correctly, typically with the first 3 months (i.e. 25% of annual fee) waived as well. A bit more in the US but the card comes with many benefits that aren't available elsewhere.

In Australia I think I paid about $1,500 AUD (similar to the HK fee) but there the card comes with something like 150k miles (transferrable to any Membership Rewards partner) and $500 AUD travel credit -- i.e. actual benefits that offset the high fee.
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Old Jan 9, 19, 10:40 pm
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There hasn't been a Citi Avios transfer bonus for over a year now, I think. They used to be pretty frequent. Are the good times over?
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Old Jan 9, 19, 10:48 pm
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Originally Posted by zeltergiset View Post
There hasn't been a Citi Avios transfer bonus for over a year now, I think. They used to be pretty frequent. Are the good times over?
Seeing as the good times of using Avios intra-Asia on CX are pretty much over, I'm not particularly aching to lock up my Thank You-points in that currency anymore.
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Old Jan 9, 19, 10:56 pm
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Originally Posted by Kilian Zoll View Post
Seeing as the good times of using Avios intra-Asia on CX are pretty much over, I'm not particularly aching to lock up my Thank You-points in that currency anymore.
There's reduced availability on intra-Asia CX using Avios, but the inventory is still not bad. I've redeemed 5 HKG-HND/NRT round trips and a few HKG-TPE for 2019 for weekend trips without much difficulty.

At 40000 Avios for Tokyo and 18000 Avios for Taipei (round trip) in business class, it's still pretty good value considering the transfer bonus from credit cards.
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Old Jan 9, 19, 11:13 pm
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Originally Posted by Psychiatrist View Post
There's reduced availability on intra-Asia CX using Avios, but the inventory is still not bad. I've redeemed 5 HKG-HND/NRT round trips and a few HKG-TPE for 2019 for weekend trips without much difficulty.

At 40000 Avios for Tokyo and 18000 Avios for Taipei (round trip) in business class, it's still pretty good value considering the transfer bonus from credit cards.
Bit of hyperbole on my part of course -- there are still deals to be had. But since Cathay gutted their programme the situation has changed drastically, and so have my credit card transfer patterns. I'm finding myself increasing transferring TY-points and Rewards Cash to KrisFlyer these days. Too bad that programme is getting a devaluation of its own later this month. Fortunately SQ is far more transparent than CX with these changes though.
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Old Jan 10, 19, 12:10 am
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With the transfer bonus, Avios would often make more sense than Asia Miles for one-way long-haul too.
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Old Jan 10, 19, 5:03 am
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Originally Posted by Kilian Zoll View Post
Seeing as the good times of using Avios intra-Asia on CX are pretty much over, I'm not particularly aching to lock up my Thank You-points in that currency anymore.
Hmm, what's wrong with those? I keep using BAEC Avios to book almost all one-segment flights in Asia, and they have by far better value than alternative Citi partners like AsiaMiles and EVA. AsiaMiles become better if you fall into 10k miles zone, but your flight consists of two segments (EVA is similar, but you need to book when then run promos, as regular prices make little sense).

As for conversion bonuses, haven't actually seen any from Citi recently. No 30% Avios, no 25% Etihad, no 5% (haha, pathetic anyway) bonus for AsiaMiles.
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Old Jan 10, 19, 5:54 am
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@barracuda93 as you are based in Taiwan, are you booking TPE-HKG-xxx flights? There is a lot of availability when you book this kind of flight with a married segment.

But if you are looking at HKG-BKK or HKG-SIN for example, it becomes much harder to find flights.
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@barracuda93 as you are based in Taiwan, are you booking TPE-HKG-xxx flights? There is a lot of availability when you book this kind of flight with a married segment.

But if you are looking at HKG-BKK or HKG-SIN for example, it becomes much harder to find flights.

For these "forced married segments", is there a choice of which 2 segments to marry? do they need to be within 24 hours? Can one space them out by a week or more?

Thank you.
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Old Jan 10, 19, 1:32 pm
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Originally Posted by IncyWincy View Post
For these "forced married segments", is there a choice of which 2 segments to marry? do they need to be within 24 hours? Can one space them out by a week or more?
There is a choice, but if we talk about online booking, you can't make any extended stopover. Never tried doing that over the phone, since it's much easier to book two separate tickets instead.
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Originally Posted by sxc View Post
@barracuda93 as you are based in Taiwan, are you booking TPE-HKG-xxx flights? There is a lot of availability when you book this kind of flight with a married segment.
But if you are looking at HKG-BKK or HKG-SIN for example, it becomes much harder to find flights.
Actually I avoid booking combinations of flights in a single itinerary with BAEC for several reasons: better flexibility (I can cancel or change just one flight without affecting another) and if I fly via Hong Kong, I usually prefer having a day there.

But yeah, in certain instances I have noticed this weird problem with Iberia and perhaps BAEC. As I remember, it was when I looked for flights between Hong Kong and Jakarta. Never had problems booking HKG–TPE, HKG–BKK or HKG–MNL though.
I also typically use Avios to book flights from Taiwan to Japan or Korea.
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Two Qs:

1. How long after you receive the "Be rewarded with Annual Relationship Points" email from Citi Prestige will the relationship bonus points actually be credited to your account?

2. Does anyone currently hold the Amex Platinum Credit Card? In case I need a referral...
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2. Does anyone currently hold the Amex Platinum Credit Card? In case I need a referral...
My friend in HK does.
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Alot of questions

Hi!

Sorry if I'm the wrong thread.
I've searched alot and this was the least bad thread to post in.

I'm moving to HK in april for work 3 years+.

Currently based in Sweden, Stockholm ARN and I'm flying 90+ flights a year mainly on SAS and *A.
I'm SAS Eurobonus Diamond (*A Gold+)

I have decided to move my business to OW and preferably Cathay and I think I will do around 20 flights in Asia and 2-3 to Sweden each year.
Mostly eco and some businessclass.

Here's my questions:

1: Is it worth to try statusmatch my Eurobonus Diamond with Cathay Marco Polo?

2: First thing to do in HK, get HK ID-card is planned!
3: Get Cathay Amex is planned!


4: Which Bank to get? I've looked into HSBC and their HSBC Visa Signature Card.
Any better options for me?

/jz123
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Old Jan 23, 19, 7:31 pm
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Hi!

Sorry if I'm the wrong thread.
I've searched alot and this was the least bad thread to post in.

I'm moving to HK in april for work 3 years+.

Currently based in Sweden, Stockholm ARN and I'm flying 90+ flights a year mainly on SAS and *A.
I'm SAS Eurobonus Diamond (*A Gold+)

I have decided to move my business to OW and preferably Cathay and I think I will do around 20 flights in Asia and 2-3 to Sweden each year.
Mostly eco and some businessclass.

Here's my questions:

1: Is it worth to try statusmatch my Eurobonus Diamond with Cathay Marco Polo?

2: First thing to do in HK, get HK ID-card is planned!
3: Get Cathay Amex is planned!


4: Which Bank to get? I've looked into HSBC and their HSBC Visa Signature Card.
Any better options for me?

/jz123
Valkommen till HK.

1. Don't think CX officially do status matches, but you could give it a shot. They definitely wouldn't match SK Diamond to CX Diamond as the former is significantly easier to attain, given that you can earn status credits through credit cards in Scandinavia. If you're lucky they might match you to GO, but they may also not match you at all.

3. The wiki section in this thread is very useful if you need help selecting a suite of cards.

4. Once you arrive in HK there will be a transition period between needing a bank account and receiving your physical Hong Kong ID. Only Citibank (as far as I know) open bank accounts for expats who don't yet have a physical HKID, so they tend to get a lot of expat business early on. I originally banked exclusively with Citi but am now more spread out across a few banks.
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