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Credit card Asia Miles earning opportunities (HK) 2019

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For time required to transfer miles from banks, please see here.

On-going offers

Beginner's recommendation (rates quoted before other short term promotions):
(Just one for now) BEA Flyer World Master - 1 mile per $5 for local purchases / overseas purchases; 1 mile per $8 for Octopus AAVS (no fee)

Credit Cards that are by Invitation Only or Applied in lieu with an Account:

1. WLB Luxe Visa Infinite - 1 mile per $2.4 for overseas airline / travel / hotel / dining; $4/mile on local airline / travel / hotel / dining ($50/5,000 miles min $50 max $500) (Need to be Wing Lung Private Banking customers)
2. BoC Wealth Management Visa Infinite - 1 mile per $15 for local / overseas / octopus AAVS / bill payment, 1 mile per $5 for overseas spending / local dining, 1 mile per $2.5 for overseas spending / local dining if that month's accumulated spending is over $15000 ($50/5,000 miles min $100 max $300) (Need to be BoC Wealth Management (中銀理財) customer)
3. HSBC Premier World Master for 6X (select one category only below, 1 mile per $4.16. Under this promotion, cap at $100,000), and all other seasonal promotions. ($300 fee for a year's worth of redemption) [to 31 Dec 2017] (Need to be HSBC Premier customer)
4. BoC Enrich World MC - 1 mile per $15 for local / overseas / octopus AAVS / bill payment, 1 mile per $3 for dining/dept store if that month's accumulated spending is over $15000 ($50/5,000 miles min $100 max $300) (Need to be BoC Enrich (智盈理財) customer)
5. HSBC Advance Platinum Visa for 6X (select one category only below, 1 mile per $4.16. Under this promotion, cap at $100,000), and all other seasonal promotions. ($300 fee for a year's worth of redemption) [to 31 Dec 2017] (Need to be HSBC Advance customer)
6. Citibank Ultima card - 1 mile per $4 for local / overseas / octopus (no redemption fee, $23,800 non-waivable annual fee) (Need to be Citigold Private Client customer AND by Invitation only)
7. SCB Priority Banking Visa Infinite - $7.5 per mile for local spending ($15 per mile for Insurance Spending (NOT BILL PAYMENT)) and Octopus, $5 per mile overseas spending ($300 flat redemption fee) (Need to be SCB Priority Banking customer) Note 2
8. BEA Supreme Gold World Master - 1 mile per $5 for local /overseas / Octopus / Bill Payment (Excluding the following categories: Education, Insurance and Tax) (no fee) (Need to be BEA Supreme Gold (顯卓理財) customer) Note 3
9. Shacom World Master - 1 mile per $8 local purchases / overseas / octopus ($10 per 1,000AM min $100 max $500) (Need to be Shacom SMART Banking (慧通理財) customer)
10. CCB HK Visa Infinite - 1 mile per $8 spent for Local Spending / Overseas Spending / Octopus / Bill payment ($50 per 5,000 miles AM min $100) (Need to be CCB Premier Banking (貴賓理財) / Premier Select (貴賓晉裕) customer)

Full list:

I. Overseas
1. BOC Travel Rewards Visa Signature Card - 8% rebate for each transaction >$500 overseas spending (max $500 per month) (requirement: 1. overseas transaction for that month (any amount per transaction) > $6,000; 2. three times local spending (any amount)) plus 1 mile per $15
2. BoC Wealth Management Visa Infinite - 1 mile per $2.5 for overseas spending / local dining if that month's accumulated spending is over $15000 ($50/5,000 miles min $100 max $300) (Need to be BoC Wealth Management (中銀理財) customer)
3. [to 31 Dec 2018] HSBC (excluding amounts billed in HK and PRC) - 1 mile / $2.78 (HSBC Visa Signature) / $4.16 (other HSBC Credit Cards INCLUDING HSBC Premier World Master) spent (select Overseas Spending category ONLY) / $6.25 (HSBC Visa Signature) spent (NOT select Overseas Spending category) ($300 fee for a year's worth of redemptions)** ++
4. (if ONLINE / PAYWAVE) CCB HK eye Card - 1 mile / $2.14 (inclusive of 5X online bonus, cap at $50,000 per calender year and (2X extra overseas bonus, cap at $75000 per membership year ) ($50 per 5,000 miles min $100)
5. Citibank Premiermiles (>=$20K per billing cycle) (excluding RMB and MOP) - 1 mile per $3 spent (no redemption fee)** ++
6. [to 31 Dec 2018] DBS Eminent (excluding MOP) - 1 mile per $3.6 spent ($50 fee per 5,000 miles)
7. [to 28 Feb 2019] Fubon Platinum / Titanium - 1 mile per $3.75 spent ($50/5,000AM min $250 max $500) (plus 133 Sure win miles if txn amt >$600)
Note: 1 mile per $0.75 for TWD spendings in Taiwan (max $5,000/month and $10,000/year), and 1 mile per $1.875 for KRW and JPY spendings in Korea and Japan (Seperate registration needed, max $20,000/month, two months per calendar year max)
8. Amex Plat Charge - 1 mile per $3.75 spent (first $160,000 spending, $5/mile thereafter, $200 flat redemption fee)
9. Citibank Prestige / Premiermiles (<$20K) (excluding RMB and MOP) - 1 mile per $4 spent (no redemption fee, $2,500 non-waivable annual fee for the Prestige)** ++
10. DBS Black World Master (excluding MOP) - 1 mile per $4 spent overseas (no fee)
11. SCB Asia Miles World Master - 1 mile per $4 spent (automatic conversion)
12. Amex CX Elite - 1 mile per $4 spent (automatic conversion)
13. BEA Flyer World Master / Supreme Gold World Master - 1 mile per $5 (no fee)
14. CCB HK Platinum Visa / Platinum Master - 1 mile per $5 ($50 per 5,000 miles min $100)
15. SCB Priority Banking Visa Infinite - 1 mile per $5 spent ($300 flat fee redemption)**

: DO NOT Award points for DCC Transactions

II. Supermarket, dept store, Telecommunications bills on autopay:
1A . [to 31 Dec 2018] HSBC - 1 mile / $2.78 (HSBC Visa Signature)/$4.16 (other HSBC Credit Cards INCLUDING HSBC Premier World Master) spent# (select Home Spending category ONLY) ($300 fee for a year's worth of redemptions)** ++
1B. [to 31 Dec 2018] HSBC - 1 mile / $2.78 (HSBC Visa Signature)/$4.16 (other HSBC Credit Cards INCLUDING HSBC Premier World Master) spent# (select Lifestyle Spending category ONLY) ($300 fee for a year's worth of redemptions)** ++
1C. [to 31 Dec 2018] HSBC - 1 mile / $2.78 (HSBC Visa Signature)/$4.16 (other HSBC Credit Cards INCLUDING HSBC Premier World Master) spent# (select Entertainment Spending category ONLY) ($300 fee for a year's worth of redemptions)** ++
2. Citibank Rewards - 1 mile / $3 spent ($50 fee per 5,000 mile redeemed) (on first $12,500 spending per statement month) Note 2** ++
3. (if ONLINE / PAYWAVE) CCB HK eye Card - 1 mile / $3 (inclusive of 5X online bonus, cap at $75000 per calender year ($50 per 5,000 miles AM min $100)

III. Dining
1. [to 31 Dec 2018] HSBC - 1 mile / $2.78 (HSBC Visa Signature) / $4.16 (other HSBC Credit Cards INCLUDING HSBC Premier World Master) spent# (select Dining Spending category ONLY) ($300 fee for a year's worth of redemptions)** ++
1b. [to 31 Dec 2018] HSBC (non-Visa Signature, INCLUDING HSBC Premier World Master) (select Dining category) - 1 mile / $4.16 ($300 fee for a year's worth of redemptions)** ++
1c. [to 31 Dec 2018] HSBC Visa Signature (did not select Dining category) - 1 mile / $6.25 ($300 fee for a year's worth of redemptions) ** ++
2. SCB Asia Miles World Master - 1 mile per $4 spent (automatic conversion)
3. BEA Flyer World Master - 1 mile / $5 (no fee)
Note: Restaurants in hotels sometimes are regarded as "Hotel" under V/M classification and thus ineligible for any dining promotions, using CUP can usually (but not always) get around this problem

IV. Travel agents:
** ++1. [to 31 Dec 2018] HSBC - 1 mile / $2.78 (HSBC Visa Signature) / $4.16 (other HSBC Credit Cards INCLUDING HSBC Premier World Master) spent# (select LifeStyle Spending category ONLY)/ $6.25 (HSBC Visa Signature NOT selecting LifeStyle Spending category)($300 fee for a year's worth of redemptions)
2. CCB HK EYE (if online) - 1 mile per $2.14 spent (First $50,000 only) ($50 per 5,000 miles AM min $100)
3. Amex Plat Charge - 1 mile per $3.75 spent (first $160,000 spending, $5/mile thereafter, $200 flat redemption fee)

V. Other retail spending
1. [to 14 Mar 19] (if online or Apple Pay) CCB HK Premier Banking Visa Infinite - 1 mile per $2.67 spent ($50 per 5,000 miles AM min $100) (first $12.5K spending ONLINE per month only, else $8 per mile)
2. CCB HK eye Card - 1 mile per $3 ($50 per 5,000 miles AM min $100) (ONLINE or PAYWAVE Spending ONLY, else $15 per mile)
3. (if online) SCB Asia Miles World Master - 1 mile per $4 spent (automatic conversion) (ONLINE spending ONLY, else $6 per mile)
4. BEA Flyer World Master / BEA Supreme Gold World Master - 1 mile per $5 spent (no fee) Note 3
** 5. SCB WorldMiles AE - 1 mile per $6 spent ($300 flat redemption fee)
** ++ 6. Citibank Prestige - 1 mile per $6 spent (no redemption fee, $2,500 non-waiveable annual fee)
7. Amex CX Elite - 1 mile per $6 spent (automatic conversion)
8. DBS Black World Master - 1 mile per $6 spent (no fee)
9. [to 31 Dec 2018] DBS Eminent - 1 mile per $7.2 spent ($50 fee per 5,000 miles)
10. [to 28 Feb 2019] Fubon Platinum / Titanium - 1 mile per $7.5 spent spending >=$300 on Saturdays and Sundays ($50/5,000AM min $250 max $500) (plus 133 Sure win miles if txn amt >$600 (if NOT ONLINE))
** 11. SCB Priority Banking Visa Infinite - 1 mile per $7.5 spent ($300 flat redemption fee)
** ++ 12. Amex (Gold grade and higher) - 1 mile per $7.5 spent (to $160,000), $200 flat redemption fee). (1 mile per $3 spent for 5x shops and 1 mile per $1.5 spent for 10x shops)
** ++ 13. Citibank Premiermiles - 1 mile per $8 spent (no fee)
13. Shacom World Master / Platinum / Titanium / Diamond UnionPay - 1 mile per $8 spent ($10 per 1,000AM min $100 max $500)

VI. Bill payments (Excluding Tax or any payment to IRD)
VI A. General Bill Payments
1. CCB HK Visa Infinite and CCB HK Diamond Prestige - 1 mile per $8 spent ($50 per 5,000 miles AM min $100 max $300)
2. CCB HK Platinum Visa / CCB HK Platinum Master / CCB HK Platinum Dual Currency UnionPay - 1 mile per $15 spent (Each Card Membership Year cap at 12 times of credit limit)
3. BoC Wealth Management Visa Infinite / BoC Platinum Visa & Master / BoC Platinum Dual Currency Unionpay - 1 mile per $15 spent (Each Card cap at $10,000 per Month) ($50/5,000 miles min $100)
4. HSBC Platinum Visa / Advance Platinum Visa / Premier World Master / Visa Signature / Green Card - 1 mile per $25 spent (cap at $10,000 per Month)
VI B. Specific bill payment merchants who accept autopay for higher earn rates (by merchant)
1. Towngas autopay - Citi Prestige $6/mile
2. CLP autopay - Citi Prestige $6/mile, BEA $5/AM
3. HKE - Alipay HKE (rever to IX.iii earn rates), DBS Black $6/AM

Note 1: Other issuers in Hong Kong DO NOT award bonus points for bill payment

VII. Octopus Automatic Add-Value
** ++ 1. Citibank Prestige - 1 mile per $6 spent (no redemption fee, $2,500 non-waiveable annual fee)
2. SCB Asia Miles World Master - 1 mile per $6 spent (automatic conversion)
** 3. SCB Priority Banking Visa Infinite - 1 mile per $7.5 spent ($300 flat redemption fee)
4. BEA Flyer World Master / BEA Supreme Gold World Master - 1 mile per $8 spent (no fee) Note 3
5. CCB HK Visa Infinite and CCB HK Diamond Prestige - 1 mile per $8 spent ($50 per 5,000 miles AM min $100 max $300)
** ++ 6. Citibank Premiermiles - 1 mile per $8 spent (no fee)
7. Shacom World Master / Platinum / Titanium / Diamond UnionPay - 1 mile per $8 spent ($10 per 1,000AM min $100 max $500)
8. Bankcomm Diamond Dual Currency Card - 1 mile per HK$12 spent ($50 per 5,000 AM min $100 max $300)
9. HSBC (all HKD cards) - 1 mile per $25 spent

VIII. China Unionpay RMB spending

** ++1. [to 31 Dec 2018] HSBC Dual Currency Unionpay card - 1 mile per RMB4.16 spent (select China Spending category ONLY) ($300 fee for a year's worth of redemptions)
2. Bankcomm Diamond Dual Currency Card - 1 mile per RMB6 spent for restaurants or hotels spending >= RMB300, 1 per RMB12 spent other categories ($50 per 5,000 AM min $100 max $300)
3. CCB HK Diamond Prestige - 1 mile per RMB8 spent ($50 per 5,000 miles AM min $100 max $300)
4. Shacom Diamond UnionPay - 1 mile per RMB8 spent ($10 per 1,000AM min $100 max $500)
5. BoC Dual Currency Unionpay Card - 1 mile per RMB15 spent ($50/5,000 miles min $100)

IX. Electronic wallets (in descending chronological order):
i. Payme
https://www.mrmiles.hk/payme/
http://flyformiles.hk/8847
ii. Wechat
http://flyformiles.hk/8847
https://www.mrmiles.hk/wechat-pay/
iii. Alipay P2P
http://flyformiles.hk/8847
https://www.mrmiles.hk/alipay/
iv. O!epay (Oepay): see VII. Octopus Automatic Add-Value above

Note 2:
** can opt for Krisflyer miles in lieu
++ can opt for BAEC AVIOS in lieu
For HSBC, ONLY Premier World Master holders are able to opt for BAEC Avios and KrisFlyer Miles

Note 3:
BEA Supreme Gold World Master cardholders need to register in advance for the "BEA Mileage Reward" scheme during application (Supreme Gold account opening), or else pay $1800 penalty to register thereafter.

HK miles/hotel points earning ability
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Old May 15, 19, 10:01 pm
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Hi guys,

Just wanted to get some feedback here - So after the previous discussions on which cards to go for, I decided to start off easy with the Citi Rewards card (did quite abit of shopping on HKTV mall). I'm now quite comfortable with getting a second credit card now for general spending (mostly dining), and narrowed my choices to the following: 1. Citi Prestige, 2. HSBC Visa Sig, 3. DBS Black World Mastercard or 4. Stanchart Asia Miles.

Any thoughts on the 3 above? I know Citi Prestige has the most perks but the feedback has been unless I can squeeze out the 4NF benefit, 3,800HKD annual fee is abit too high for my liking (I'm actually going to go for the SG version if I can). Stanchart Asia Miles kind of locks one into just Asia Miles which increasingly seems like a nightmare for redemption so that leaves me with HSBC Visa Sig or DBS Black World. I tried reading both up and welcome offer / perks wise, they both seem equal (not much perks to begin with either card anyway). Was wondering if you seasoned cardholders have any thoughts on the last two?

Many thanks in advance!
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Old May 16, 19, 12:47 am
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Originally Posted by sparkj View Post
If you can, you should use the RSVP welcome offer for CX Elite Amex. The link I found may be expired, but sometimes it still works. Or you need to find the latest one from the HK forums.
$2/mile for HKD100k local spending, $1/mile for HKD100k foreign spending. Its the only welcome offer I think is worth churning at higher spending ranges.

Actually has anyone had experience cancelling the card before 1 year is up (there is a clause that says you have to wait a year to cancel, or they can retract your points)?
I cancelled my last CX Elite Amex card in November last year, so I don't think I am eligible for that offer.
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Old May 16, 19, 1:28 am
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Originally Posted by Kilian Zoll View Post
I cancelled my last CX Elite Amex card in November last year, so I don't think I am eligible for that offer.
How about your wife? You can cycle between the two of you so you can use 1 welcome offer a year...
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Old May 16, 19, 3:12 am
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Originally Posted by sparkj View Post
How about your wife? You can cycle between the two of you so you can use 1 welcome offer a year...
She's halfway into her current cycle of that card.
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Old May 16, 19, 4:32 am
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Originally Posted by Bezarius View Post
Just wanted to get some feedback here - So after the previous discussions on which cards to go for, I decided to start off easy with the Citi Rewards card (did quite abit of shopping on HKTV mall). I'm now quite comfortable with getting a second credit card now for general spending (mostly dining), and narrowed my choices to the following: 1. Citi Prestige, 2. HSBC Visa Sig, 3. DBS Black World Mastercard or 4. Stanchart Asia Miles.
Many thanks in advance!
Considering coming devaluation of BAEC program, AsiaMiles looks much more promising than before. Unless you need EVA miles, SC card might be the thing to go for.
I would have advised Prestige under legacy price, but you cannot get it now (existing cardholders still keep it).
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Old May 16, 19, 5:15 am
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You guys are aware that we have a perfectly adequate public health system in Hong Kong where giving birth (as a HK ID holder) costs a few hundred HK$?
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Old May 16, 19, 7:08 am
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I have been whining about the Citi Prestige fee hike (which I as an existing card holder am not subjected to as yet) but if you use the 4th Night Free benefit extensively it will pay for the fee pretty quickly. I have HKD $15k+ in reimbursements from Citi already this year from hotel stays using that benefit.


Originally Posted by christep View Post
You guys are aware that we have a perfectly adequate public health system in Hong Kong where giving birth (as a HK ID holder) costs a few hundred HK$?
I'm just paying up front and earning the miles -- someone else is paying in the end. Had that not been the case we would probably have gone public (or just gone back to one of our home countries).
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Old May 17, 19, 2:33 am
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Originally Posted by barracuda93 View Post
Considering coming devaluation of BAEC program, AsiaMiles looks much more promising than before. Unless you need EVA miles, SC card might be the thing to go for.
I would have advised Prestige under legacy price, but you cannot get it now (existing cardholders still keep it).
Thanks barracuda93 and Killian, your views are much appreciated - I would have definitely paid for the Prestige under its previous fees... I may bite the bullet and take on the new fees. Any views on the DBS Black Card and the HSBC Visa Sig and how they can fit into spending patterns?
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Old May 19, 19, 8:28 pm
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Anyone know what the typical time span is in terms of RewardsCash transfers from HSBC to Asia Miles? From memory most of my transfers have happened within a couple of days, but I am currently at 8-9 working days since making the transfer from HSBC and it still hasn't reached my AM account.
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Old May 19, 19, 8:36 pm
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Originally Posted by Bezarius View Post
Thanks barracuda93 and Killian, your views are much appreciated - I would have definitely paid for the Prestige under its previous fees... I may bite the bullet and take on the new fees. Any views on the DBS Black Card and the HSBC Visa Sig and how they can fit into spending patterns?
Re. Citi Prestige -- if you can make use of the 4th Night Free benefit then the card will easily pay for itself. Especially if you're able to book work travel (4+ night stays) using this card.

Depending on your willingness utilize credit across several cards and banks, your strategy would typically be to use specific cards for specific categories of spend (e.g. overseas, payWave, dining etc.) and then an everyday card for 'everything else' -- the latter is what I use Citi Prestige for, but other may use DBS Black, SCB Asia Miles BEA Flyer (which are all fee free) etc.

I personally signed up for the DBS Black for the reasonably attractive sign up bonus they ran up until the end of April. The current offer doesn't appear to be as good though.

Re. the HSBC Visa Signature -- any category you're expecting to spend at least 100k in you would typically assign to this card as it earns 1 mile per 2.78 HKD spent in a category of your choice. I have a significant amount of my spend overseas so I have picked the overseas category for both myself and my wife for this card.
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Old May 20, 19, 5:08 am
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Originally Posted by christep View Post
You guys are aware that we have a perfectly adequate public health system in Hong Kong where giving birth (as a HK ID holder) costs a few hundred HK$?
HK has a very reasonable user pay minimal price healthcare scheme, normal hospital birth usually end up less than 4 figures.

However, we can't comment on the parents who wish to give their children a head start in life by giving birth at HKSH!
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Old May 20, 19, 5:27 am
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So,

I've settled up with HSBC Visa Signature i Hong Kong and applied for Asia Miles conversion(from Rewards cash)

Do I need to call in every time to convert my Reward Cash -> Asia miles?
Seems really 1990!
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Old May 20, 19, 7:40 am
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So,
Do I need to call in every time to convert my Reward Cash -> Asia miles?
Seems really 1990!
You can transfer to Asia Miles (and KrisFlyer) online - https://www.personal.hsbc.com.hk/1/2...scmd=mileage#4

Only have to call (or post/fax a form) for Avios.

Plenty about HK banking is indeed 1990s though...
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Old May 20, 19, 10:07 am
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Originally Posted by zeltergiset View Post
You can transfer to Asia Miles (and KrisFlyer) online - https://www.personal.hsbc.com.hk/1/2...scmd=mileage#4

Only have to call (or post/fax a form) for Avios.

Plenty about HK banking is indeed 1990s though...
Is anyone else having problems accessing the online transfer form?

Every time I go to check out after typing in the number of RC to be transferred, I am directed back to my personal banking homepage after entering my login details. I can't find the page to actually confirm the transfer.
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Old May 23, 19, 12:53 pm
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Originally Posted by jz123 View Post
So,

I've settled up with HSBC Visa Signature i Hong Kong and applied for Asia Miles conversion(from Rewards cash)

Do I need to call in every time to convert my Reward Cash -> Asia miles?
Seems really 1990!
You can also snail mail or hand in in branch?
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