@navylad I don’t begrudge you taking advantage of the deal. But one thing you probably need to see in context is that CX Diamonds fly A LOT to get there. And to get their upgrade passes they fly even more. Way way more than is required to get emerald in any other oneworld program.

So if CX honouring this will truly affect the ability to use their upgrade vouchers, then I think being upset is a valid sentiment.

that is in stark contrast with figures I’m being quoted by those who manage loyalty programmes in the industry, although of course it will no doubt vary by route, day and time and as you have demonstrated the majority are not in the loyalty programme. Overall, I expect MPC accounts for less than 5% of revenue.

Case report (as is your account) is obviously the lowest form of evidence and I would be interested to hear broader figures for CX, although I can’t imagine it being too disimilar to the other OW airlines of similar or larger size.

F/J inventory hasn’t been ‘wiped out’, we’ve seen current A availability drop on these routes currently, but I expect some to return in due course.

It does worry me somewhat that Cathay are displaying personal information to the general public, this is contrary to data protection laws around the world.

As I said I do have sympathy for people who feel they are going to be inadvently affected.

With regards to your former point, being GGL in BA, I too fly a lot more than those who just earn Emerald. Loyalty to FF programmes is certainly not required, you can be a member of any OW loyalty programme and credit CX’s flights to earn your status, there are many a thread comparing different loyalty programmes in the OW threads.

By way of example, you would need to fly the DAD-HKG-JFK route 6.25 times with BA to get the same number of upgrades that you get flying the same route 4.8 times with CX and with CX these can be booked into revenue classes with the airline, with BA, it needs redemption availability, a space-saver (aka the joker) or going through a TA. I currently have 10 in my folio and I’m unlikely to be able to use most of them.

As I said I have the utmost sympathy for people affected and can indeed understand the emotions expressed in this thread. Perhaps CX can do something to manage this for you peeps- I’d suggest an ability to role over the upgrades for an additional year as a sensible balanced business suggestion.

Very cool if CX will honor these - congrats to whoever jumped on it!

they already did

At this point A class has been affected negatively. If this holds then yes this event has affected the ability of high spending members to use their benefits.

For the record I don’t begrudge anyone who has taken advantage of this deal. I have expressed that before. I wish I had been able to get one of these tickets. I was asleep.

And I have no money in this game - I’m not a CX diamond. I’m not even a CX status holder anymore. I have just been factually discussing the effect of this event on various parts of the CX community who are represented in this forum.

While I agree with some of your points, data can often be presented in ways to suit either side of an argument.

Not sure of my math, but a quick look suggests that an EC Gold member in discount F on BA needs 7.14 oneway LHR-HKG (or vv) flights to renew Gold, and get some ~21k + 100% bonus Avios each way.
An MPC DM in discount F on CX needs 8.57 oneway HKG-JFK (~33% longer a sector) to renew DM, earning some 15k Asiamiles on each flight. HKG-LHR? Just 9.6..
Pretty sure things get starker yet if one starts using $ spend.

Apples & oranges, I agree, but doesn’t change what atleast many hold to be true- CX status is tough, if not the toughest in oneworld. Else we’d have more discussions re CX status/miles on other oneworld carrier’s chatgroups/boards- like we have for aadvantage and Avios here, or more for burning Asiamiles on BA/AA F, than for burning those currencies on CX. And given the higher hurdle, it’s but natural for CX MPC members to have higher expectations. (And I agree that what suits one person might not suit the other..and if A availability does go away, 1600CP DMs should be reassessing things).

I think that we, the MPC members do need this discussion, so, thanks for keeping it calm!

i think we are in broad agreement there, BA gold doesn’t get you upgrades per sey which is the benefit which is being discussed but you are of course right, there will be routes where one loyalty group wins in comparison to the other and vice-cersa, the point I was countering though is that CX’s loyal customers work harder to get their upgrades, sorry I don’t buy that one.