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Old Sep 23, 2018, 6:37 am
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CX should be happy

Hong Kong Airline clearly has financing problem for its new planes. Not a surprise given HNA state, but good news for CX.

https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/...lenging-cathay
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Old Sep 23, 2018, 7:26 am
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Originally Posted by brunos
Hong Kong Airline clearly has financing problem for its new planes. Not a surprise given HNA state, but good news for CX.

https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/...lenging-cathay
Maybe, this is an indication that CX, despite all the critics, is not doing things that bad at all........
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Old Sep 23, 2018, 8:10 am
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Which is kinda sad though, HX service and quality is not bad honestly - though they really lack a good alliance/ffp to encourage more business.
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Old Sep 23, 2018, 10:32 pm
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Good news for CX... but terrible news for us passengers and consumers...
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Old Sep 24, 2018, 9:09 am
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Good news for CX... but terrible news for us passengers and consumers...
Yes, I like competition.
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Old Sep 24, 2018, 9:24 am
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Yes, I like competition.
Like competition from the subsidized ME3 and Mainland Chinese airlines? They're the reason CX has gone downhill. I support fair competition, but that's unfortunately not what we're seeing in this day and age.

I support competition from Eva, Singapore, and Qantas, but not HK Airlines and HK Express. Feel free to correct me if I said anything wrong, I've not been very up to date recently.
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Old Sep 24, 2018, 9:43 am
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Which is kinda sad though, HX service and quality is not bad honestly - though they really lack a good alliance/ffp to encourage more business.
its hardly surprising tbh. hna the mother company is a shady business that is in financial and political troubles.
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Old Sep 24, 2018, 9:44 am
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Originally Posted by cx4ever
Like competition from the subsidized ME3 and Mainland Chinese airlines? They're the reason CX has gone downhill. I support fair competition, but that's unfortunately not what we're seeing in this day and age.

I support competition from Eva, Singapore, and Qantas, but not HK Airlines and HK Express. Feel free to correct me if I said anything wrong, I've not been very up to date recently.
how about jal the last few years😂😂
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Old Sep 25, 2018, 12:54 am
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Originally Posted by cx4ever
Like competition from the subsidized ME3 and Mainland Chinese airlines? They're the reason CX has gone downhill. I support fair competition, but that's unfortunately not what we're seeing in this day and age.

I support competition from Eva, Singapore, and Qantas, but not HK Airlines and HK Express. Feel free to correct me if I said anything wrong, I've not been very up to date recently.
I always have fun when I read these comments about subsidized airlines. But let's not start again.
Apparently you miss that HK airlines and HKExpress are quite different airlines. The latter one is a true LCC.
HK airline offesr very good value in business. Long flights with full flat bed, lovely lounge at HKIA, priority at security. And given CX food/wine offering in J, not much of a downgrade on HX.
A real competitor for CX.
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Old Sep 25, 2018, 1:15 am
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Originally Posted by brunos
I always have fun when I read these comments about subsidized airlines. But let's not start again.
Apparently you miss that HK airlines and HKExpress are quite different airlines. The latter one is a true LCC.
HK airline offesr very good value in business. Long flights with full flat bed, lovely lounge at HKIA, priority at security. And given CX food/wine offering in J, not much of a downgrade on HX.
A real competitor for CX.
Both Hk airlines and hk express are subsidized, like CN3, HNA and ME3.
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Old Sep 25, 2018, 2:33 am
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Originally Posted by Aus106080
Both Hk airlines and hk express are subsidized, like CN3, HNA and ME3.
I don't understand why no one points out CX/KA's subsidisation by the HKSAR, namely in the form of the Third Runway.
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I don't understand why no one points out CX/KA's subsidisation by the HKSAR, namely in the form of the Third Runway.

lol.... someone must have failed economics....
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Old Sep 25, 2018, 3:56 am
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lol.... someone must have failed economics....
Yes indeed. I passed
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Old Sep 25, 2018, 8:01 pm
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Originally Posted by cx4ever
Like competition from the subsidized ME3 and Mainland Chinese airlines? They're the reason CX has gone downhill. I support fair competition, but that's unfortunately not what we're seeing in this day and age.

I support competition from Eva, Singapore, and Qantas, but not HK Airlines and HK Express. Feel free to correct me if I said anything wrong, I've not been very up to date recently.
I agree. Especially given the unknown fate of its parent company HNA. HNA just sold a large amount of shares to some shell company registered in a tax haven... it's hard to believe an airline can grow healthily and safely when the parent company is so unstable.
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I agree. Especially given the unknown fate of its parent company HNA. HNA just sold a large amount of shares to some shell company registered in a tax haven... it's hard to believe an airline can grow healthily and safely when the parent company is so unstable.
subsidies is one thing
the non-conformance to rules and safety and labour rights is the other.
look at the salary bill of cx and then those conpanies.
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