First timer on CX 889 from YVR-JFK. Preclearance?
Sep 20, 2018, 6:48 pm
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First timer on CX 889 from YVR-JFK. Preclearance?
Hello everyone,
I'll be taking my first flight on CX this weekend and will be flying in J/F from YVR-JFK-HKG-DXB.
I had a question about the start fo the journey. I was under the impression that pre-clearance will be done in Vancouver, but when trying to research the lounge's available on the trans-border side, however I stumbled across some dated posts that indicated that CX 889 passengers have to do immigration in JFK. Is that still accurate?
Any help would be great as I normally need to show up well ahead of time in order not to miss my flights via pre-clearance from Canada.
I'll be taking my first flight on CX this weekend and will be flying in J/F from YVR-JFK-HKG-DXB.
I had a question about the start fo the journey. I was under the impression that pre-clearance will be done in Vancouver, but when trying to research the lounge's available on the trans-border side, however I stumbled across some dated posts that indicated that CX 889 passengers have to do immigration in JFK. Is that still accurate?
Any help would be great as I normally need to show up well ahead of time in order not to miss my flights via pre-clearance from Canada.
Sep 20, 2018, 8:30 pm
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Something is not right...
CX865 (formerly 889) is JFK - YVR - HKG. If your journey starts at JFK, you will have a stopover at YVR but you cannot leave the AC.
CX888 is HKG - YVR - JFK. If your journey starts at YVR, you clear you US immigration together with ex-HKG pax at JFK.
Are you taking CX888 (YVR - JFK), with a layover in New York, then CX 845/841/831/865 to HKG? Which city are you starting from?
CX865 (formerly 889) is JFK - YVR - HKG. If your journey starts at JFK, you will have a stopover at YVR but you cannot leave the AC.
CX888 is HKG - YVR - JFK. If your journey starts at YVR, you clear you US immigration together with ex-HKG pax at JFK.
Are you taking CX888 (YVR - JFK), with a layover in New York, then CX 845/841/831/865 to HKG? Which city are you starting from?
Last edited by andersonCooper; Sep 20, 2018 at 8:42 pm
Sep 20, 2018, 8:44 pm
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Something is not right...
CX889 is JFK - YVR - HKG. If your journey starts at JFK, you will have a stopover at YVR but you cannot leave the AC.
CX888 is HKG - YVR - JFK. If your journey starts at YVR, you clear you US immigration together with ex-HKG pax at JFK.
Are you taking CX888 (YVR - JFK), with a layover in New York, then CX 845/841/831 to HKG?
CX889 is JFK - YVR - HKG. If your journey starts at JFK, you will have a stopover at YVR but you cannot leave the AC.
CX888 is HKG - YVR - JFK. If your journey starts at YVR, you clear you US immigration together with ex-HKG pax at JFK.
Are you taking CX888 (YVR - JFK), with a layover in New York, then CX 845/841/831 to HKG?
YVR - JFK (CX888 - J)
JFK - HKG (CX841 - F)
HKG - DXB (CX 745 - J)
Ok so that is good to know. I had no idea. Guess I don't have to show up 5 hrs prior to my flight in YVR then thankfully.. I have missed way to many flights in secondary in pre-clearance to count. Hopefully being a J/F passenger allows me to get out of the plane asap at JFK and make my way past US immigration. That is interesting though.. having to do US immigration when I'll only be transiting for a few hours...
I guess the good news is I'll be able to use the CX First & Business lounge in YVR then
Sep 20, 2018, 8:51 pm
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I suppose. Its an award redemption and I'm originating from YYC. The connections onwards from HKG to DXB were limited so that's why I think the AS agent allowed me to book this routing.
Yes sorry - it is CX888. I am originating in YYC, but catching an aeroplan reward on AC to get me from YYC to YVR, so I guess that is irrelevant to your question.Actual CX ticket is:
YVR - JFK (CX888 - J)
JFK - HKG (CX841 - F)
HKG - DXB (CX 745 - J)
Ok so that is good to know. I had no idea. Guess I don't have to show up 5 hrs prior to my flight in YVR then thankfully.. I have missed way to many flights in secondary in pre-clearance to count. Hopefully being a J/F passenger allows me to get out of the plane asap at JFK and make my way past US immigration. That is interesting though.. having to do US immigration when I'll only be transiting for a few hours...
I guess the good news is I'll be able to use the CX First & Business lounge in YVR then
Yes sorry - it is CX888. I am originating in YYC, but catching an aeroplan reward on AC to get me from YYC to YVR, so I guess that is irrelevant to your question.Actual CX ticket is:
YVR - JFK (CX888 - J)
JFK - HKG (CX841 - F)
HKG - DXB (CX 745 - J)
Ok so that is good to know. I had no idea. Guess I don't have to show up 5 hrs prior to my flight in YVR then thankfully.. I have missed way to many flights in secondary in pre-clearance to count. Hopefully being a J/F passenger allows me to get out of the plane asap at JFK and make my way past US immigration. That is interesting though.. having to do US immigration when I'll only be transiting for a few hours...
I guess the good news is I'll be able to use the CX First & Business lounge in YVR then
CX does not have F lounge at YVR and I would not rate YVR as one of the best outstation lounges available tbh (worse than BKK/LHR/HND, of course better than FRA). The problem with 888 is it usually arrives before CBP opens in the morning, so you will be stuck in AC for a couple minutes. Even Y gets clear CBP early since it's right at the beginning of office hours.
However since you are taking 841 on F you can do Flagship dining at JFK - not sure how much time you'll have though. Showers will be available at both YVR and JFK (and of course HKG) lounges.
Last edited by andersonCooper; Sep 20, 2018 at 8:57 pm
Sep 21, 2018, 6:09 pm
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Why can't you book a YVR - HKG direct and then onwards to DXB?? This adds significantly amount of time. - edited: ok award routing.
CX does not have F lounge at YVR and I would not rate YVR as one of the best outstation lounges available tbh (worse than BKK/LHR/HND, of course better than FRA). The problem with 888 is it usually arrives before CBP opens in the morning, so you will be stuck in AC for a couple minutes. Even Y gets clear CBP early since it's right at the beginning of office hours.
However since you are taking 841 on F you can do Flagship dining at JFK - not sure how much time you'll have though. Showers will be available at both YVR and JFK (and of course HKG) lounges.
CX does not have F lounge at YVR and I would not rate YVR as one of the best outstation lounges available tbh (worse than BKK/LHR/HND, of course better than FRA). The problem with 888 is it usually arrives before CBP opens in the morning, so you will be stuck in AC for a couple minutes. Even Y gets clear CBP early since it's right at the beginning of office hours.
However since you are taking 841 on F you can do Flagship dining at JFK - not sure how much time you'll have though. Showers will be available at both YVR and JFK (and of course HKG) lounges.
About what you said regarding YVR's lounges - I thought CX did have a F & J lounge in YVR as of ~2016?
Sep 22, 2018, 5:01 am
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PS: Krug is on FD offering, don't forget to have it before noon!
Last edited by andersonCooper; Sep 22, 2018 at 5:15 am
Sep 22, 2018, 7:47 pm
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CX888 leaves from YVR from the international gates. You will have access to the CX Lounge. No F at YVR. If taking CX888, you do not clear US Immigration at YVR but rather on arrival at JFK.
Sep 23, 2018, 5:56 am
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Sep 23, 2018, 7:25 am
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You will not have FFD access as that is reserved for AA pax only. As a CX F pax, you will have FL access.
There is no such thing as transit in the US. You will enter the US at JFK along with passengers terminating at JFK or connecting onwards on domestic US flights.
There is no such thing as transit in the US. You will enter the US at JFK along with passengers terminating at JFK or connecting onwards on domestic US flights.