Last edit by: percysmith
New links:
New redemption engine: https://www.asiamiles.com/en/redeem-awards/flight-awards/facade.html
(alternatively https://www.cathaypacific.com/cx/en_HK/book-a-trip/redeem-flights/facade.html for MPO members)
New redemption charts (CX and KA only): https://www.asiamiles.com/en/redeem-awards/flight-awards/flight-award-chart.html
New partner redemption mileage requirement: https://www.asiamiles.com/en/afr.html
Asia Miles changes microsite:
https://www.asiamiles.com/change/
New Terms and Conditions:
https://www.asiamiles.com/change/en/updatedterms.html
New redemption engine: https://www.asiamiles.com/en/redeem-awards/flight-awards/facade.html
(alternatively https://www.cathaypacific.com/cx/en_HK/book-a-trip/redeem-flights/facade.html for MPO members)
New redemption charts (CX and KA only): https://www.asiamiles.com/en/redeem-awards/flight-awards/flight-award-chart.html
New partner redemption mileage requirement: https://www.asiamiles.com/en/afr.html
Asia Miles changes microsite:
https://www.asiamiles.com/change/
New Terms and Conditions:
https://www.asiamiles.com/change/en/updatedterms.html
Asia Miles Changes effective 22 June 2018
#751
Join Date: Jan 2012
Programs: BA Blue, IHG Spire, Marriott Gold
Posts: 394
So I'm looking ideally at HKG to RGN this coming December (or HKG - BKK) if that's not possible. No availability on BAEC at all post early November.
I do have a fair few Amex MR points that I could transfer over to Asia Miles if that would be a better idea? I'm still not sure after reading through this whole thread whether CX are releasing more seats for Asia Miles users than to their One World partners?
Also is there a chance that CX won't release any seats for December given it's peak time? Previously I've never had a problem booking intra-asia rewards on CX through BAEC but don't want to be waiting for an option that might never appear!
I do have a fair few Amex MR points that I could transfer over to Asia Miles if that would be a better idea? I'm still not sure after reading through this whole thread whether CX are releasing more seats for Asia Miles users than to their One World partners?
Also is there a chance that CX won't release any seats for December given it's peak time? Previously I've never had a problem booking intra-asia rewards on CX through BAEC but don't want to be waiting for an option that might never appear!
#752
Join Date: May 2017
Programs: AY Plat (OWE), TK Elite (*G), BT VIP, HH D, BW DS
Posts: 484
So I'm looking ideally at HKG to RGN this coming December (or HKG - BKK) if that's not possible. No availability on BAEC at all post early November.
I do have a fair few Amex MR points that I could transfer over to Asia Miles if that would be a better idea? I'm still not sure after reading through this whole thread whether CX are releasing more seats for Asia Miles users than to their One World partners?
Also is there a chance that CX won't release any seats for December given it's peak time? Previously I've never had a problem booking intra-asia rewards on CX through BAEC but don't want to be waiting for an option that might never appear!
I do have a fair few Amex MR points that I could transfer over to Asia Miles if that would be a better idea? I'm still not sure after reading through this whole thread whether CX are releasing more seats for Asia Miles users than to their One World partners?
Also is there a chance that CX won't release any seats for December given it's peak time? Previously I've never had a problem booking intra-asia rewards on CX through BAEC but don't want to be waiting for an option that might never appear!
#753
Join Date: Jan 2010
Programs: UA, AS
Posts: 2,386
So I'm looking ideally at HKG to RGN this coming December (or HKG - BKK) if that's not possible. No availability on BAEC at all post early November.
I do have a fair few Amex MR points that I could transfer over to Asia Miles if that would be a better idea? I'm still not sure after reading through this whole thread whether CX are releasing more seats for Asia Miles users than to their One World partners?
Also is there a chance that CX won't release any seats for December given it's peak time? Previously I've never had a problem booking intra-asia rewards on CX through BAEC but don't want to be waiting for an option that might never appear!
I do have a fair few Amex MR points that I could transfer over to Asia Miles if that would be a better idea? I'm still not sure after reading through this whole thread whether CX are releasing more seats for Asia Miles users than to their One World partners?
Also is there a chance that CX won't release any seats for December given it's peak time? Previously I've never had a problem booking intra-asia rewards on CX through BAEC but don't want to be waiting for an option that might never appear!
#755
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: NYC, LAX, HKG
Posts: 286
Strange Results - J Standard Available, Y Tailored Not Available, 6-12 months out
Or maybe increased economy award availability, because even F/C choice and tailored availability is mostly flat or down.
Another odd thing, I've not seen a single F tailored award available when searching the SFO-HKG route (that's the row that's -100% in the table). I wasn't sure if that's a glitch on the AM website, or is F tailored something you need to call to book? Very strange...
Another odd thing, I've not seen a single F tailored award available when searching the SFO-HKG route (that's the row that's -100% in the table). I wasn't sure if that's a glitch on the AM website, or is F tailored something you need to call to book? Very strange...
But I don't think you have to call, since Tailored does show as the only option for other dates.
I am searching Vietnam routes, so maybe this has to do with all those bookings made on Dec 31, 2018. But it's not like the short-haul legs came anywhere close to selling out, at least in Y.
#756
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: HKG/HND/OOL
Programs: QF Emerald. SQ Gold.
Posts: 3,147
whilst i am regular critique of cathay pathetic, i do stand for them when it comes to award in Y for asia routes. i was able to select 4 Y seats to HND on short notice at the lowest econ (whatever the award is called their tiered structure is stupidly complex) in midst of xmas season
i cant say for longhaul or J cuz i would buy those on other carier anyhow but for my regular burn and churn of asiamiles in Y fpr regional sector the change has worked well.
disclaimer: all my miles comes from credit card spending.. why pay to fly on CX?
i cant say for longhaul or J cuz i would buy those on other carier anyhow but for my regular burn and churn of asiamiles in Y fpr regional sector the change has worked well.
disclaimer: all my miles comes from credit card spending.. why pay to fly on CX?
#757
Join Date: Jan 2010
Programs: UA, AS
Posts: 2,386
I get the feeling CX wants to make the folks who got the error fare from Vietnam suffer at least a little. By removing award availability to Vietnam they are making people pay up to get there for the error fare.
#758
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Oct 2014
Posts: 10,904
It's not like there aren't other airlines (with award seats) that can get you there.
#759
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: NYC, LAX, HKG
Posts: 286
Higher loads - definitely true for some CX/KA Vietnam flights, but limited to J and certain flights. It's the empty flights I'm surprised there isn't even Tailored Y space, since CX can charge whatever it wants to for Tailored.
#760
Join Date: Jan 2010
Programs: UA, AS
Posts: 2,386
The error fare was for J so, yes, you are probably right about that, but what about Y space? The reports seem to suggest even Y awards are tough.
#761
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: HKG
Programs: BA(GGL) QF LTS CX AM, Hilton Diamond, PPL(A)
Posts: 1,654
it's a shame if they are limiting Y fares to vietnam. i genuinely want to go there for a holiday in 2019! but looks like that would be difficult!
#762
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Oct 2014
Posts: 10,904
I guess my point here is that if they restrict space, it's not going to make it difficult for people to get there; it's going to drive people to competing airlines. If you want to get to Vietnam you can get to Vietnam, and CX can't stop you, or even really make it much more difficult for you. There are too many options.
#763
Ambassador, Hong Kong and Macau
Original Poster
Join Date: May 2009
Location: HKG
Programs: Non-top tier Asia Miles member
Posts: 19,671
#764
Join Date: Dec 2017
Programs: Krisflyer, BAEC
Posts: 23
The space restriction is getting pretty ridiculous. I'm waitlisted on flights to multiple destinations in Europe for December. Meanwhile, Avios sees open availability for at least 2 in J class. The call centre isnt any help, merely stating that AM has access to a different set of seats than other partner airlines.
#765
Ambassador, Hong Kong and Macau
Original Poster
Join Date: May 2009
Location: HKG
Programs: Non-top tier Asia Miles member
Posts: 19,671
The space restriction is getting pretty ridiculous. I'm waitlisted on flights to multiple destinations in Europe for December. Meanwhile, Avios sees open availability for at least 2 in J class. The call centre isnt any help, merely stating that AM has access to a different set of seats than other partner airlines.
If they all involve CX, this will be newsworthy (Avios having more availability than AM).