May 24, 2018, 4:03 am
Last edit by: percysmith
New links:
New redemption engine: https://www.asiamiles.com/en/redeem-awards/flight-awards/facade.html
(alternatively https://www.cathaypacific.com/cx/en_HK/book-a-trip/redeem-flights/facade.html for MPO members)
New redemption charts (CX and KA only): https://www.asiamiles.com/en/redeem-awards/flight-awards/flight-award-chart.html
New partner redemption mileage requirement: https://www.asiamiles.com/en/afr.html
Asia Miles changes microsite:
https://www.asiamiles.com/change/
New Terms and Conditions:
https://www.asiamiles.com/change/en/updatedterms.html
New redemption engine: https://www.asiamiles.com/en/redeem-awards/flight-awards/facade.html
(alternatively https://www.cathaypacific.com/cx/en_HK/book-a-trip/redeem-flights/facade.html for MPO members)
New redemption charts (CX and KA only): https://www.asiamiles.com/en/redeem-awards/flight-awards/flight-award-chart.html
New partner redemption mileage requirement: https://www.asiamiles.com/en/afr.html
Asia Miles changes microsite:
https://www.asiamiles.com/change/
New Terms and Conditions:
https://www.asiamiles.com/change/en/updatedterms.html
Asia Miles Changes effective 22 June 2018
Dec 1, 2018, 2:49 pm
#736
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: DTW - Rochester Hills, MI
Programs: Cathay MPC, IHG Diamond Ambassador, Domestic Airline Nobody
Posts: 715
Dec 26, 2018, 9:10 am
#737
Ambassador, Hong Kong and Macau
Original Poster
Join Date: May 2009
Location: HKG
Programs: Non-top tier Asia Miles member
Posts: 19,799
I was on a hair-crazed HKG-TPE-NGO//CTS-HND-PVG-HKG routing this holiday (NGO-CTS on Avios) https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/cath...l#post30574966
I originally had 4 hours connection time in PVG. Since I arrived ahead of time from HND and arrived at KA PVG check in 3 hours ahead of time, I looked into a goshow onto an earlier flight and was allowed to switch from 9pm KA809 to 8pm KA897. I'm not a frequent PVG traveller, but there was a board showing which flights have "Seats available".
When boarded, J was 25% full.
The disappointing thing was when I checked the previous night for 26/12's PVG-HKG last minute, only Choice and Tailored was available (I was on Standard award). More Flying Air...
I originally had 4 hours connection time in PVG. Since I arrived ahead of time from HND and arrived at KA PVG check in 3 hours ahead of time, I looked into a goshow onto an earlier flight and was allowed to switch from 9pm KA809 to 8pm KA897. I'm not a frequent PVG traveller, but there was a board showing which flights have "Seats available".
When boarded, J was 25% full.
The disappointing thing was when I checked the previous night for 26/12's PVG-HKG last minute, only Choice and Tailored was available (I was on Standard award). More Flying Air...
Dec 26, 2018, 6:54 pm
#739
Ambassador, Hong Kong and Macau
Original Poster
Join Date: May 2009
Location: HKG
Programs: Non-top tier Asia Miles member
Posts: 19,799
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/cath...l#post29972783
https://webb-site.com/articles/tickets3.asp
Tactics of the supplier as the biggest scalper.
https://webb-site.com/articles/tickets3.asp
Tactics of the supplier as the biggest scalper.
Dec 27, 2018, 11:37 am
#740
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: YYZ
Programs: CX GO, AC Aeroplan 25K, AMEX PLAT, Hilton Diamond, Marriott Titanium, IHG Spire Amb
Posts: 464
This is a first for me.
Trying to upgrade from PEY R class to Business U.
Loadings are
J9 C9 D6 I1 W4 R3 E1
J9 C9 D7 I2 W6 R5 E2
And both flights would not even accept waitlist for the upgrade. Called MPC and they said the same.
I have been checking the last 3 days and it had been the same.
The same flights are accepting waitlists on Business Standard Award.
Trying to upgrade from PEY R class to Business U.
Loadings are
J9 C9 D6 I1 W4 R3 E1
J9 C9 D7 I2 W6 R5 E2
And both flights would not even accept waitlist for the upgrade. Called MPC and they said the same.
I have been checking the last 3 days and it had been the same.
The same flights are accepting waitlists on Business Standard Award.
Dec 27, 2018, 11:51 am
#741
Suspended
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Hong Kong
Programs: None any more
Posts: 11,017
I think it's becoming clear that AsiaMiles are now devalued to the point of uselesness. I'm sitting on 2.5M Citi rewards points which I had been planning to turn into AsiaMiles when I wanted an F trip to the UK. It seems clear that this was a mistaken strategy, so now I'm looking at alternative ways touse those points.
As a 20 year HK immigrant and a 7-year 1M mile DM in my earlier days it really saddens me to see CX having descended to this level.
As a 20 year HK immigrant and a 7-year 1M mile DM in my earlier days it really saddens me to see CX having descended to this level.
Dec 27, 2018, 11:49 pm
#743
Join Date: Jan 2015
Programs: Asiamiles
Posts: 69
I was on a hair-crazed HKG-TPE-NGO//CTS-HND-PVG-HKG routing this holiday (NGO-CTS on Avios) https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/cath...l#post30574966
I originally had 4 hours connection time in PVG. Since I arrived ahead of time from HND and arrived at KA PVG check in 3 hours ahead of time, I looked into a goshow onto an earlier flight and was allowed to switch from 9pm KA809 to 8pm KA897. I'm not a frequent PVG traveller, but there was a board showing which flights have "Seats available".
When boarded, J was 25% full.
The disappointing thing was when I checked the previous night for 26/12's PVG-HKG last minute, only Choice and Tailored was available (I was on Standard award). More Flying Air...
I originally had 4 hours connection time in PVG. Since I arrived ahead of time from HND and arrived at KA PVG check in 3 hours ahead of time, I looked into a goshow onto an earlier flight and was allowed to switch from 9pm KA809 to 8pm KA897. I'm not a frequent PVG traveller, but there was a board showing which flights have "Seats available".
When boarded, J was 25% full.
The disappointing thing was when I checked the previous night for 26/12's PVG-HKG last minute, only Choice and Tailored was available (I was on Standard award). More Flying Air...
Must be that flexible to use miles now.
Dec 28, 2018, 12:04 am
#744
Ambassador, Hong Kong and Macau
Original Poster
Join Date: May 2009
Location: HKG
Programs: Non-top tier Asia Miles member
Posts: 19,799
Did you get direct return also?
What redemption needed? Standard J?
Dec 28, 2018, 4:04 am
#746
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: SIN
Posts: 543
I think it's becoming clear that AsiaMiles are now devalued to the point of uselesness. I'm sitting on 2.5M Citi rewards points which I had been planning to turn into AsiaMiles when I wanted an F trip to the UK. It seems clear that this was a mistaken strategy, so now I'm looking at alternative ways touse those points.
As a 20 year HK immigrant and a 7-year 1M mile DM in my earlier days it really saddens me to see CX having descended to this level.
As a 20 year HK immigrant and a 7-year 1M mile DM in my earlier days it really saddens me to see CX having descended to this level.
Dec 30, 2018, 4:24 am
#747
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Sydney, Australia
Programs: QR/AC Gold, VA Silver, IHG Plat, Bonvoy Gold
Posts: 1,581
I am looking at SYD-HKG (1-way for now) route in J for around Xmas period next year. I am looking at everyday closer to Xmas and all I see is Business Tailored seat available at 140K, even though I tried different routes. Likewise looking at PE, only Tailored Seats are available at 80K (only looking for 2 in Asia iles), even though if I looked at Qantas I could see those PE seats available for 52.5K QFF points (eg 18 Dec 2018 CX110, 4 PE seats available).
I just don't get it. It looks like I can just use QFF points to book CX ticket cheaper than using Asia Miles. How does that work? Why is CX doing this? I just doesn't make any sense to me.
I also look at Krisflyer as well, and there are plenty of availability of booking J via SIN for 58000 Krisflyer miles with plenty of route options, not to mention low taxes and no surcharges. I guess i just have to fly SQ again instead.
I just don't get it. It looks like I can just use QFF points to book CX ticket cheaper than using Asia Miles. How does that work? Why is CX doing this? I just doesn't make any sense to me.
I also look at Krisflyer as well, and there are plenty of availability of booking J via SIN for 58000 Krisflyer miles with plenty of route options, not to mention low taxes and no surcharges. I guess i just have to fly SQ again instead.
Jan 1, 2019, 9:27 pm
#748
Join Date: May 2006
Location: SIN
Programs: KF, MPC, BAEC // Bonvoy, WoH, Honors
Posts: 1,462
Slightly OT, but has CX completely stopped releasing seats to partners on some routes now? I'm seeing multiple J seats available on HKG-DXB in Sept/Oct 2019 as Standard Awards, but none of these are bookable through BA or QF.
EDIT: Managed to find some seats through QF's search engine (when 4+ seats are showing through Asia Miles) -- nevertheless the availability seems to have been cut back significantly.
EDIT: Managed to find some seats through QF's search engine (when 4+ seats are showing through Asia Miles) -- nevertheless the availability seems to have been cut back significantly.
Jan 1, 2019, 9:50 pm
#749
Join Date: Jan 2010
Programs: UA, AS
Posts: 2,393
Slightly OT, but has CX completely stopped releasing seats to partners on some routes now? I'm seeing multiple J seats available on HKG-DXB in Sept/Oct 2019 as Standard Awards, but none of these are bookable through BA or QF.
EDIT: Managed to find some seats through QF's search engine (when 4+ seats are showing through Asia Miles) -- nevertheless the availability seems to have been cut back significantly.
EDIT: Managed to find some seats through QF's search engine (when 4+ seats are showing through Asia Miles) -- nevertheless the availability seems to have been cut back significantly.
Cathay has this new model for releasing space to partners and as part of that for some routes they may only release space at schedule open as part of an itinerary connecting in HKG. Then after a month or two (or more) they will open up some space on the individual segments like HKG-DXB. If you search for TPE-DXB on the QF website you will see a lot CX availability to DXB in September and October connecting through Hong Kong.