Last edit by: percysmith
New links:
New redemption engine: https://www.asiamiles.com/en/redeem-awards/flight-awards/facade.html
(alternatively https://www.cathaypacific.com/cx/en_HK/book-a-trip/redeem-flights/facade.html for MPO members)
New redemption charts (CX and KA only): https://www.asiamiles.com/en/redeem-awards/flight-awards/flight-award-chart.html
New partner redemption mileage requirement: https://www.asiamiles.com/en/afr.html
Asia Miles changes microsite:
https://www.asiamiles.com/change/
New Terms and Conditions:
https://www.asiamiles.com/change/en/updatedterms.html
New redemption engine: https://www.asiamiles.com/en/redeem-awards/flight-awards/facade.html
(alternatively https://www.cathaypacific.com/cx/en_HK/book-a-trip/redeem-flights/facade.html for MPO members)
New redemption charts (CX and KA only): https://www.asiamiles.com/en/redeem-awards/flight-awards/flight-award-chart.html
New partner redemption mileage requirement: https://www.asiamiles.com/en/afr.html
Asia Miles changes microsite:
https://www.asiamiles.com/change/
New Terms and Conditions:
https://www.asiamiles.com/change/en/updatedterms.html
Asia Miles Changes effective 22 June 2018
#271
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Toulouse
Programs: TK*G
Posts: 281
There are barely any CX award seats available on BA platform - both long haul and short haul, econ and business
#272
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Hong Kong
Posts: 2,172
Yes in theory but we are pretty certain it is not adhered to by CX. That is why grAAber and grASper threads on CX say use BA and QF search engines to locate availability:
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/amer...aster-thd.html
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/alas...ilability.html
Last edited by IncyWincy; Jun 24, 2018 at 10:03 am
#273
Join Date: Mar 2016
Programs: OWE
Posts: 131
when checking for long haul in the US-HKG (ORD, BOS, JFK, LAX) through partners (BA, AA, QF and even AS on the phone) there is not one seat in any cabin at the furthest end of schedule. I put in random dates in April, May, June and even off peak season in Oct, Feb - nothing. not one seat in Y, PEY, J, or F. which is mind blowing to say the least. However, a quick search on AM website, there are seats available in those cabins as soon as next week.
Right before the CX AM change on June 22, there are plenty of Y, PEY and a good sprinkling of F/J seats on those long hauls when searching award seats through partners, but since JUN 22, there has been none. Even high frequency Intra-Asia flight like TPE-HKG, HKG-SIN where they serve more than 6 flights daily yield very little results. I see maybe 1 seat per day in both those sectors, but only Y seats, nothing else.
idk if it is a coding/IT issue but this is concerning for many. I hope this new AM change does not mean a severe limited access to award seats through partners and that people are forced into redeeming for these expensive AM "choice seats"
Right before the CX AM change on June 22, there are plenty of Y, PEY and a good sprinkling of F/J seats on those long hauls when searching award seats through partners, but since JUN 22, there has been none. Even high frequency Intra-Asia flight like TPE-HKG, HKG-SIN where they serve more than 6 flights daily yield very little results. I see maybe 1 seat per day in both those sectors, but only Y seats, nothing else.
idk if it is a coding/IT issue but this is concerning for many. I hope this new AM change does not mean a severe limited access to award seats through partners and that people are forced into redeeming for these expensive AM "choice seats"
#274
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: BNA
Programs: Hyatt Explorist, Bonvoy Plat, HHonors Diamond, DL Gold
Posts: 383
One of Asia Miles talking points for the recent changes was "More access to redemption seats-Improved redemption seat access and changes to flight awards for Cathay Pacific and Cathay Dragon". In May 2015, SCMP had an article from Danny Lee titled " Cathay reviews loyalty scheme to give more free flights to own customers".
Cathay reviews loyalty scheme to give more free flights to own customers | South China Morning Post
The article stated the following:
"Cathay Pacific is to set aside more free seats for its seasoned frequent fliers, under the latest proposal to revamp the award- winning airline's loyalty scheme. The plan is to slash the number of free air tickets available for partner airlines and to reallocate those to Cathay's own Marco Polo Club members, sources close to the ongoing review say."
"The sources say Cathay believes it is time to stop allowing external redemptions when the airline is capable of filling aircraft with paid passengers - boosting long-term profitability."
I believe this subject had been discussed earlier in this forum when the article came out. It would not surprise me if the recent Asia Miles programme changes do result in restricted CX award access to partner programmes. There are several airlines across different alliances which restrict J and F availability to partners. If CX started doing this also, it wouldn't be unusual; it would just be a change from CX's previous practice.
Cathay reviews loyalty scheme to give more free flights to own customers | South China Morning Post
The article stated the following:
"Cathay Pacific is to set aside more free seats for its seasoned frequent fliers, under the latest proposal to revamp the award- winning airline's loyalty scheme. The plan is to slash the number of free air tickets available for partner airlines and to reallocate those to Cathay's own Marco Polo Club members, sources close to the ongoing review say."
"The sources say Cathay believes it is time to stop allowing external redemptions when the airline is capable of filling aircraft with paid passengers - boosting long-term profitability."
I believe this subject had been discussed earlier in this forum when the article came out. It would not surprise me if the recent Asia Miles programme changes do result in restricted CX award access to partner programmes. There are several airlines across different alliances which restrict J and F availability to partners. If CX started doing this also, it wouldn't be unusual; it would just be a change from CX's previous practice.
#276
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Florida
Posts: 29,731
One of Asia Miles talking points for the recent changes was "More access to redemption seats-Improved redemption seat access and changes to flight awards for Cathay Pacific and Cathay Dragon". In May 2015, SCMP had an article from Danny Lee titled " Cathay reviews loyalty scheme to give more free flights to own customers".
Cathay reviews loyalty scheme to give more free flights to own customers South China Morning Post
The article stated the following:
"Cathay Pacific is to set aside more free seats for its seasoned frequent fliers, under the latest proposal to revamp the award- winning airline's loyalty scheme. The plan is to slash the number of free air tickets available for partner airlines and to reallocate those to Cathay's own Marco Polo Club members, sources close to the ongoing review say."
"The sources say Cathay believes it is time to stop allowing external redemptions when the airline is capable of filling aircraft with paid passengers - boosting long-term profitability."
I believe this subject had been discussed earlier in this forum when the article came out. It would not surprise me if the recent Asia Miles programme changes do result in restricted CX award access to partner programmes. There are several airlines across different alliances which restrict J and F availability to partners. If CX started doing this also, it wouldn't be unusual; it would just be a change from CX's previous practice.
Cathay reviews loyalty scheme to give more free flights to own customers South China Morning Post
The article stated the following:
"Cathay Pacific is to set aside more free seats for its seasoned frequent fliers, under the latest proposal to revamp the award- winning airline's loyalty scheme. The plan is to slash the number of free air tickets available for partner airlines and to reallocate those to Cathay's own Marco Polo Club members, sources close to the ongoing review say."
"The sources say Cathay believes it is time to stop allowing external redemptions when the airline is capable of filling aircraft with paid passengers - boosting long-term profitability."
I believe this subject had been discussed earlier in this forum when the article came out. It would not surprise me if the recent Asia Miles programme changes do result in restricted CX award access to partner programmes. There are several airlines across different alliances which restrict J and F availability to partners. If CX started doing this also, it wouldn't be unusual; it would just be a change from CX's previous practice.
#277
Suspended
Join Date: May 2006
Location: HKG
Programs: A3, TK *G; JL JGC; SPG,Hilton Gold
Posts: 9,952
for those from outside- we dont get aa upgrade vouchers either.
#278
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 4,517
One of Asia Miles talking points for the recent changes was "More access to redemption seats-Improved redemption seat access and changes to flight awards for Cathay Pacific and Cathay Dragon". In May 2015, SCMP had an article from Danny Lee titled " Cathay reviews loyalty scheme to give more free flights to own customers".
Cathay reviews loyalty scheme to give more free flights to own customers South China Morning Post
The article stated the following:
"Cathay Pacific is to set aside more free seats for its seasoned frequent fliers, under the latest proposal to revamp the award- winning airline's loyalty scheme. The plan is to slash the number of free air tickets available for partner airlines and to reallocate those to Cathay's own Marco Polo Club members, sources close to the ongoing review say."
"The sources say Cathay believes it is time to stop allowing external redemptions when the airline is capable of filling aircraft with paid passengers - boosting long-term profitability."
I believe this subject had been discussed earlier in this forum when the article came out. It would not surprise me if the recent Asia Miles programme changes do result in restricted CX award access to partner programmes. There are several airlines across different alliances which restrict J and F availability to partners. If CX started doing this also, it wouldn't be unusual; it would just be a change from CX's previous practice.
Cathay reviews loyalty scheme to give more free flights to own customers South China Morning Post
The article stated the following:
"Cathay Pacific is to set aside more free seats for its seasoned frequent fliers, under the latest proposal to revamp the award- winning airline's loyalty scheme. The plan is to slash the number of free air tickets available for partner airlines and to reallocate those to Cathay's own Marco Polo Club members, sources close to the ongoing review say."
"The sources say Cathay believes it is time to stop allowing external redemptions when the airline is capable of filling aircraft with paid passengers - boosting long-term profitability."
I believe this subject had been discussed earlier in this forum when the article came out. It would not surprise me if the recent Asia Miles programme changes do result in restricted CX award access to partner programmes. There are several airlines across different alliances which restrict J and F availability to partners. If CX started doing this also, it wouldn't be unusual; it would just be a change from CX's previous practice.
#279
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 6,384
You mean Oneworld Multi Carrier award right? It is in this link "New redemption charts (CX and KA only): https://www.asiamiles.com/en/redeem-...ard-chart.html " from Wiki of this thread.
Is it that difficult to find that out yourself?
Is it that difficult to find that out yourself?
#280
Suspended
Join Date: Aug 2008
Programs: dont care anymore
Posts: 112
Perhaps through luck I burned a good chunk of avios on CX a few weeks before the change. I'd say of my avios redemptions most have been on CX.
Depending on how plays out I may have to totally rethink things. Although I'd be more concerned without having burned 750000 avios and had desire to fly on CX.
Depending on how plays out I may have to totally rethink things. Although I'd be more concerned without having burned 750000 avios and had desire to fly on CX.
#281
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: TPE / HSZ
Programs: CX GO (=SPH), IHG Diamond Amb, Hertz 5*, Accor, Hilton, National
Posts: 6,435
By the way, I just got my PVG-HKG-TPE in Q class credited under the new scheme. Under the new chart, It's a lot more miles. I'm surprised there's no delay from CX end for 22JUN flights.
#282
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Dec 2004
Programs: CX Green, QF Platinum, BAEC Silver, Hyatt Glob
Posts: 10,780
Tailored award makes no sense. The promise of the Tailored reward was that you could always get a seat because you were paying much higher Asia Miles. But for the ones I have searched, you still have to waitlist a tailored award??
Last edited by sxc; Jun 24, 2018 at 8:08 pm
#283
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: SYD
Programs: QF Plat, BA GGL, VA Silver, SQ Gold, IHG Gold, HH Diamond, Accor Plat, Hertz Pres Circle
Posts: 406
Does anyone know what classes the choice and tailored awards are booking into?
Eg. SQ books their version of choice into A class which is a revenue class.
Eg. SQ books their version of choice into A class which is a revenue class.
#285
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Brooklyn, NY, United States
Programs: AA, BA, UA, Spirit, Delta, PC Plat, SPG Gold, HHonors Diamond, Club Carlson Gold, Marriott Gold
Posts: 1,735
One of Asia Miles talking points for the recent changes was "More access to redemption seats-Improved redemption seat access and changes to flight awards for Cathay Pacific and Cathay Dragon". In May 2015, SCMP had an article from Danny Lee titled " Cathay reviews loyalty scheme to give more free flights to own customers".
Cathay reviews loyalty scheme to give more free flights to own customers South China Morning Post
The article stated the following:
"Cathay Pacific is to set aside more free seats for its seasoned frequent fliers, under the latest proposal to revamp the award- winning airline's loyalty scheme. The plan is to slash the number of free air tickets available for partner airlines and to reallocate those to Cathay's own Marco Polo Club members, sources close to the ongoing review say."
"The sources say Cathay believes it is time to stop allowing external redemptions when the airline is capable of filling aircraft with paid passengers - boosting long-term profitability."
I believe this subject had been discussed earlier in this forum when the article came out. It would not surprise me if the recent Asia Miles programme changes do result in restricted CX award access to partner programmes. There are several airlines across different alliances which restrict J and F availability to partners. If CX started doing this also, it wouldn't be unusual; it would just be a change from CX's previous practice.
Cathay reviews loyalty scheme to give more free flights to own customers South China Morning Post
The article stated the following:
"Cathay Pacific is to set aside more free seats for its seasoned frequent fliers, under the latest proposal to revamp the award- winning airline's loyalty scheme. The plan is to slash the number of free air tickets available for partner airlines and to reallocate those to Cathay's own Marco Polo Club members, sources close to the ongoing review say."
"The sources say Cathay believes it is time to stop allowing external redemptions when the airline is capable of filling aircraft with paid passengers - boosting long-term profitability."
I believe this subject had been discussed earlier in this forum when the article came out. It would not surprise me if the recent Asia Miles programme changes do result in restricted CX award access to partner programmes. There are several airlines across different alliances which restrict J and F availability to partners. If CX started doing this also, it wouldn't be unusual; it would just be a change from CX's previous practice.
Last edited by mnscout; Jun 24, 2018 at 9:28 pm Reason: SP