May 8, 2018, 8:11 pm
Last edit by: bart simpson
Confirmed:
SCMP, Oct 2, 2016: Hong Kong’s Cathay Pacific to introduce 10-abreast seating in its Boeing planes
SCMP, March 31, 2017: Hong Kong Cathay Pacific passengers to feel the squeeze in push for profits
SCMP, March 31, 2017: Inside Cathay Pacific's new condensed economy class
48 long-haul 777s to be retrofitted. 17 regionals (including the 5 ex-Emirates aircraft). Five of the earliest 77W long-haul fleet (all first-class) to be phased out.
New seat details
Seat legroom: 32" (no change)
Seat width: 17.2" (down 1.3")
IFE screen: Long-haul - 12" (up 3"); Regional - 9" (no change)
Extra personal storage
New six-way headrest (similar to A350 but not like-for-like)
Wi-Fi
Thinner seats but extra padding
Economy class retrofit from mid-2018 to 2020
10% more economy seats
19 extra Y seats to 201 in 4-class 777: for 294 passengers.
28 extra Y seats to 296 in 3-class 777: for 368 passengers.
40 extra Y seats to 396 in regional 777: for 438 passengers.
Previous discussion on Cathay's decision to densify: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/cathay-pacific-marco-polo-club/1718701-cx-considering-confirmed-having-10-seats-per-row-44.html
SCMP, Oct 2, 2016: Hong Kong’s Cathay Pacific to introduce 10-abreast seating in its Boeing planes
SCMP, March 31, 2017: Hong Kong Cathay Pacific passengers to feel the squeeze in push for profits
SCMP, March 31, 2017: Inside Cathay Pacific's new condensed economy class
48 long-haul 777s to be retrofitted. 17 regionals (including the 5 ex-Emirates aircraft). Five of the earliest 77W long-haul fleet (all first-class) to be phased out.
New seat details
Seat legroom: 32" (no change)
Seat width: 17.2" (down 1.3")
IFE screen: Long-haul - 12" (up 3"); Regional - 9" (no change)
Extra personal storage
New six-way headrest (similar to A350 but not like-for-like)
Wi-Fi
Thinner seats but extra padding
Economy class retrofit from mid-2018 to 2020
10% more economy seats
19 extra Y seats to 201 in 4-class 777: for 294 passengers.
28 extra Y seats to 296 in 3-class 777: for 368 passengers.
40 extra Y seats to 396 in regional 777: for 438 passengers.
Previous discussion on Cathay's decision to densify: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/cathay-pacific-marco-polo-club/1718701-cx-considering-confirmed-having-10-seats-per-row-44.html
Densified 777 10 abreast: Reviews and Experiences
May 25, 2019, 8:41 pm
#226
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Doing UK to Australia, I never got used to the stop in Dubai on EK or QF. It felt the timings were very wrong. HKG, Singapore, Tokyo and Bangkok are my preferred stop over points. They work better with the night/day breaks. I've had less jet lag from those stops than in the ME.
May 26, 2019, 12:34 am
#227
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finnair is good alternative. a350 and OW alliance and you avoid LHR hell. also you have much less backtrack to do. they offer good connection to australia via gateway cities like SIN, HKG (to an extent) or even BKK perhaps (i wont get a leave pass to BKK unless it was overnight transit 
, in fact i would ensure economy just for BKK transit haha) to north america JAL is a very real option. these all avoid a 10abrest evil empire.
ME3 was never my thing, but if i had to fly to a very peripheral cities it could be viable options.
, in fact i would ensure economy just for BKK transit haha) to north america JAL is a very real option. these all avoid a 10abrest evil empire.ME3 was never my thing, but if i had to fly to a very peripheral cities it could be viable options.
May 26, 2019, 1:43 am
#228
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finnair is good alternative. a350 and OW alliance and you avoid LHR hell. also you have much less backtrack to do. they offer good connection to australia via gateway cities like SIN, HKG (to an extent) or even BKK perhaps (i wont get a leave pass to BKK unless it was overnight transit , in fact i would ensure economy just for BKK transit haha) to north america JAL is a very real option. these all avoid a 10abrest evil empire.
ME3 was never my thing, but if i had to fly to a very peripheral cities it could be viable options.
, in fact i would ensure economy just for BKK transit haha) to north america JAL is a very real option. these all avoid a 10abrest evil empire.ME3 was never my thing, but if i had to fly to a very peripheral cities it could be viable options.
May 28, 2019, 8:44 am
#229
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Realising I was on a 77K (B-KQX), I went to the back to see the new seats and try them out.
Since I was squatting I wasn't allowed much time.
Seat comfort felt good - better than the old TZ and JL domestic iterations I had to endure. Perhaps helped by age of seats.
Didn't really have to touch shoulders with my seat neighbour, who was incredibly petite.
Y was 2/3 full on my SYD-HKG CX100 flight and almost every alternate seat was empty. PE and J were stuffed to the gills since CX162 was cancelled.
Since I was squatting I wasn't allowed much time.
Seat comfort felt good - better than the old TZ and JL domestic iterations I had to endure. Perhaps helped by age of seats.
Didn't really have to touch shoulders with my seat neighbour, who was incredibly petite.
Y was 2/3 full on my SYD-HKG CX100 flight and almost every alternate seat was empty. PE and J were stuffed to the gills since CX162 was cancelled.
May 29, 2019, 3:35 am
#230
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BnE is well serviced by QF at fares below those of CX. just avoid QF 787 as their 9 abrest is atkin to CX 777 10 abrest in economy that does service BNE once in a while.
i do agree CX A350 is great bird, saving grace of an otherwise Cathay pathetic. but CX owns too much 777 so odds of ending up with their 10abrest is higher than 350s
i do agree CX A350 is great bird, saving grace of an otherwise Cathay pathetic. but CX owns too much 777 so odds of ending up with their 10abrest is higher than 350s
Jun 3, 2019, 6:23 am
#231
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Most people see the densified plane as an improvement:
https://runwaygirlnetwork.com/2019/0...s-improvement/
https://runwaygirlnetwork.com/2019/0...s-improvement/
Jun 3, 2019, 6:35 am
#232
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BnE is well serviced by QF at fares below those of CX. just avoid QF 787 as their 9 abrest is atkin to CX 777 10 abrest in economy that does service BNE once in a while.
i do agree CX A350 is great bird, saving grace of an otherwise Cathay pathetic. but CX owns too much 777 so odds of ending up with their 10abrest is higher than 350s
i do agree CX A350 is great bird, saving grace of an otherwise Cathay pathetic. but CX owns too much 777 so odds of ending up with their 10abrest is higher than 350s
Jun 3, 2019, 8:33 am
#233
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Most people see the densified plane as an improvement:
https://runwaygirlnetwork.com/2019/0...s-improvement/
https://runwaygirlnetwork.com/2019/0...s-improvement/
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Jul 7, 2019, 7:41 pm
#234
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Jul 7, 2019, 10:08 pm
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Anyway, the default Boeing seat configuration for 777X is 3-4-3, given the marginally wider space.
Jul 7, 2019, 11:05 pm
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Jul 7, 2019, 11:05 pm
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Actually, CX has "ordered" 21 777X. The a350 is fundamentally a long-haul aircraft (as witnessed by the fact that it serves CX's current longest route HKG-IAD) albeit that because it is a highly flexible aircraft it is also capable of efficiently operating medium to long routes such as Aus. As for the future market for the 777X and whether operators such as Cathay are likely to order "tons" of them given the economics and increasing payload capacity of the s350 and 787 families, you might want to check out interesting discussions on this topic on other forums such as airliners.net.
Jul 9, 2019, 10:23 pm
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Jul 9, 2019, 11:59 pm
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The 779s will replace the 77As on what few routes keep first class but the A350s have a longer range capability when full of pax than the 779/77A. Especially with the new +3t option for the A35K and the +3t 359s.
Jul 10, 2019, 12:50 am
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