May 8, 2018, 8:11 pm
Last edit by: bart simpson
Confirmed:
SCMP, Oct 2, 2016: Hong Kong’s Cathay Pacific to introduce 10-abreast seating in its Boeing planes
SCMP, March 31, 2017: Hong Kong Cathay Pacific passengers to feel the squeeze in push for profits
SCMP, March 31, 2017: Inside Cathay Pacific's new condensed economy class
48 long-haul 777s to be retrofitted. 17 regionals (including the 5 ex-Emirates aircraft). Five of the earliest 77W long-haul fleet (all first-class) to be phased out.
New seat details
Seat legroom: 32" (no change)
Seat width: 17.2" (down 1.3")
IFE screen: Long-haul - 12" (up 3"); Regional - 9" (no change)
Extra personal storage
New six-way headrest (similar to A350 but not like-for-like)
Wi-Fi
Thinner seats but extra padding
Economy class retrofit from mid-2018 to 2020
10% more economy seats
19 extra Y seats to 201 in 4-class 777: for 294 passengers.
28 extra Y seats to 296 in 3-class 777: for 368 passengers.
40 extra Y seats to 396 in regional 777: for 438 passengers.
Previous discussion on Cathay's decision to densify: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/cathay-pacific-marco-polo-club/1718701-cx-considering-confirmed-having-10-seats-per-row-44.html
SCMP, Oct 2, 2016: Hong Kong’s Cathay Pacific to introduce 10-abreast seating in its Boeing planes
SCMP, March 31, 2017: Hong Kong Cathay Pacific passengers to feel the squeeze in push for profits
SCMP, March 31, 2017: Inside Cathay Pacific's new condensed economy class
48 long-haul 777s to be retrofitted. 17 regionals (including the 5 ex-Emirates aircraft). Five of the earliest 77W long-haul fleet (all first-class) to be phased out.
New seat details
Seat legroom: 32" (no change)
Seat width: 17.2" (down 1.3")
IFE screen: Long-haul - 12" (up 3"); Regional - 9" (no change)
Extra personal storage
New six-way headrest (similar to A350 but not like-for-like)
Wi-Fi
Thinner seats but extra padding
Economy class retrofit from mid-2018 to 2020
10% more economy seats
19 extra Y seats to 201 in 4-class 777: for 294 passengers.
28 extra Y seats to 296 in 3-class 777: for 368 passengers.
40 extra Y seats to 396 in regional 777: for 438 passengers.
Previous discussion on Cathay's decision to densify: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/cathay-pacific-marco-polo-club/1718701-cx-considering-confirmed-having-10-seats-per-row-44.html
Densified 777 10 abreast: Reviews and Experiences
May 22, 2018, 5:37 pm
#31
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: HKG
Programs: CX Gold, MB Titanium
Posts: 123
I was sitting in PEY on CX 829 YYZ - HKG on May 21, and thought it was strange that my IFE interface was the same I had experienced on A350's. Then when going to the restroom I noticed the Economy seats were redesigned as well, looks like I was on a refitted plane.
A few comments (again this is from a PEY perspective):
- Bathroom wait was horrible, worse than before. Almost at all times there was a line up or short wait.
- Service was noticeably slower and Flight Crew were less present throughout the flight.
- Whilst boarding did seem to take longer, we still departed on time. This could have been attributed to a few reasons however, such as the ontime boarding start due to the late night flight 0150.
To be fair, the seats did look more comfy and the bigger IFE screen seems to be a plus. On my ususal HKG-YYZ-HKG flights I've been flying J for the past 2 years, so PEY this time was occasionally a challenge. But overall it was sufficient enough to get at least 5-7 hours sleep total. Given the new 10 abreast howver, there is no way that I could ever go back to sitting in Y for 15+ hours considering how cramped it is right now.
A few comments (again this is from a PEY perspective):
- Bathroom wait was horrible, worse than before. Almost at all times there was a line up or short wait.
- Service was noticeably slower and Flight Crew were less present throughout the flight.
- Whilst boarding did seem to take longer, we still departed on time. This could have been attributed to a few reasons however, such as the ontime boarding start due to the late night flight 0150.
To be fair, the seats did look more comfy and the bigger IFE screen seems to be a plus. On my ususal HKG-YYZ-HKG flights I've been flying J for the past 2 years, so PEY this time was occasionally a challenge. But overall it was sufficient enough to get at least 5-7 hours sleep total. Given the new 10 abreast howver, there is no way that I could ever go back to sitting in Y for 15+ hours considering how cramped it is right now.
May 25, 2018, 1:07 pm
#33
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: UK. BAEC AAdvantage
Programs: Mucci Des Oeufs Brouilles et des Canards
Posts: 3,671
Actually I flew EK once, not knowing they did 10 abreast and swore never again. Then I discovered Cathay and fell in love with it's Y product and made it my preferred carrier UK to Australia. Now I'll be able to do 3 out of 4 sectors on the A350 unless they bring that to the LHR routes as well.
Jun 16, 2018, 10:05 pm
#34
Join Date: Dec 2016
Posts: 61
Jun 17, 2018, 2:18 am
#37
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(777X/777-9 = 77W cabin width + 4 inches (or 0.4 inch per pax if all space given to pax)
(below calculations assume same armrest width and aisle width as CX 777 10-abreast (77K))
Last edited by percysmith; Jun 17, 2018 at 2:26 am
Jun 17, 2018, 2:50 am
#38
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 1,421
plus SQ will be 3-4-3 as well on the 777-9
Jun 17, 2018, 5:53 am
#40
Join Date: Jan 2017
Programs: BA SL, CX GR, IHG Plat Amb
Posts: 576
Jun 17, 2018, 8:10 am
#42
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 1,421
I have to say
this is just stupid... CX is being silly. ( considering the same manager is designing the new First, business, PE and Y for the 777-9 THIS sort of stupid cost cutting does bode well)
transplanting tv's IS NUTS...
the new TV's would have put CX way ahead of all regional competitors, now its just the same...
Jul 13, 2018, 3:47 pm
#43
Join Date: Jul 2017
Posts: 18
That means we're going to see some KLM-style seats! At least it is more responsive than the old system.
Jul 13, 2018, 9:13 pm
#44
Join Date: Feb 2007
Programs: NZ Koru
Posts: 6,411
From Airlineroute:
Cathay Pacific in the last few days gradually outlined planned operation with its re-configured Boeing 777-300 and -300ER, featuring 3-4-3 layout in Economy Class (instead of 3-3-3). The re-configured aircraft is gradually loaded in the reservation system as well as the OAG, starting June 2018.
777-300ER J40W32Y296
eff 19JUN18 Hong Kong – London Heathrow
eff 01JUL18 Hong Kong – Rome
eff 01OCT18 Hong Kong – Johannesburg
Cathay Pacific in the last few days gradually outlined planned operation with its re-configured Boeing 777-300 and -300ER, featuring 3-4-3 layout in Economy Class (instead of 3-3-3). The re-configured aircraft is gradually loaded in the reservation system as well as the OAG, starting June 2018.
777-300ER J40W32Y296
eff 19JUN18 Hong Kong – London Heathrow
eff 01JUL18 Hong Kong – Rome
eff 01OCT18 Hong Kong – Johannesburg