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Confirmed:
SCMP, Oct 2, 2016: Hong Kong’s Cathay Pacific to introduce 10-abreast seating in its Boeing planes
SCMP, March 31, 2017: Hong Kong Cathay Pacific passengers to feel the squeeze in push for profits
SCMP, March 31, 2017: Inside Cathay Pacific's new condensed economy class
48 long-haul 777s to be retrofitted. 17 regionals (including the 5 ex-Emirates aircraft). Five of the earliest 77W long-haul fleet (all first-class) to be phased out.
New seat details
Seat legroom: 32" (no change)
Seat width: 17.2" (down 1.3")
IFE screen: Long-haul - 12" (up 3"); Regional - 9" (no change)
Extra personal storage
New six-way headrest (similar to A350 but not like-for-like)
Wi-Fi
Thinner seats but extra padding
Economy class retrofit from mid-2018 to 2020
10% more economy seats
19 extra Y seats to 201 in 4-class 777: for 294 passengers.
28 extra Y seats to 296 in 3-class 777: for 368 passengers.
40 extra Y seats to 396 in regional 777: for 438 passengers.
Previous discussion on Cathay's decision to densify: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/cathay-pacific-marco-polo-club/1718701-cx-considering-confirmed-having-10-seats-per-row-44.html
SCMP, Oct 2, 2016: Hong Kong’s Cathay Pacific to introduce 10-abreast seating in its Boeing planes
SCMP, March 31, 2017: Hong Kong Cathay Pacific passengers to feel the squeeze in push for profits
SCMP, March 31, 2017: Inside Cathay Pacific's new condensed economy class
48 long-haul 777s to be retrofitted. 17 regionals (including the 5 ex-Emirates aircraft). Five of the earliest 77W long-haul fleet (all first-class) to be phased out.
New seat details
Seat legroom: 32" (no change)
Seat width: 17.2" (down 1.3")
IFE screen: Long-haul - 12" (up 3"); Regional - 9" (no change)
Extra personal storage
New six-way headrest (similar to A350 but not like-for-like)
Wi-Fi
Thinner seats but extra padding
Economy class retrofit from mid-2018 to 2020
10% more economy seats
19 extra Y seats to 201 in 4-class 777: for 294 passengers.
28 extra Y seats to 296 in 3-class 777: for 368 passengers.
40 extra Y seats to 396 in regional 777: for 438 passengers.
Previous discussion on Cathay's decision to densify: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/cathay-pacific-marco-polo-club/1718701-cx-considering-confirmed-having-10-seats-per-row-44.html
Densified 777 10 abreast: Reviews and Experiences
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Densified 777 10 abreast: Reviews and Experiences
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But since no one complaint about the seat width of 359 (I tried 359 Y once in seat E but feels really narrow to me... btw my BMI is well within the "normal" range) CX considers this a green light for them to go to "slim down" the size of their seat...
BTW new seat map for 10 abreast 77G = 77K is out...
https://www.cathaypacific.com/cx/en_...g-777/300.html
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I didn't capture the seat map for CX532, but I can still capture the seat map for tomorrow's CX533 inbound.
Did anyone rush to book (9rush) the 73K inaugural?
Did CX invite any travel website/blogger such as @djsflynn or Lucky for this?
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I confess to having not read every post in this thread's 40 pages so I apologize in advance if this has already been covered -
Does anyone know of a rollout schedule for the 10 abreast 777 please? I am flying 807/806 ORD-HKG-BKK-HKG-ORD over thanksgiving. I have OWE so I got free exit seats on all sectors but as I don't do 10 abreast 777s, I may have to cancel the ticket. (That and ANA are doing a nice J promotion JFK-NRT/HND-KUL).
Thanks,
Does anyone know of a rollout schedule for the 10 abreast 777 please? I am flying 807/806 ORD-HKG-BKK-HKG-ORD over thanksgiving. I have OWE so I got free exit seats on all sectors but as I don't do 10 abreast 777s, I may have to cancel the ticket. (That and ANA are doing a nice J promotion JFK-NRT/HND-KUL).
Thanks,
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I confess to having not read every post in this thread's 40 pages so I apologize in advance if this has already been covered -
Does anyone know of a rollout schedule for the 10 abreast 777 please? I am flying 807/806 ORD-HKG-BKK-HKG-ORD over thanksgiving. I have OWE so I got free exit seats on all sectors but as I don't do 10 abreast 777s, I may have to cancel the ticket. (That and ANA are doing a nice J promotion JFK-NRT/HND-KUL).
Thanks,
Does anyone know of a rollout schedule for the 10 abreast 777 please? I am flying 807/806 ORD-HKG-BKK-HKG-ORD over thanksgiving. I have OWE so I got free exit seats on all sectors but as I don't do 10 abreast 777s, I may have to cancel the ticket. (That and ANA are doing a nice J promotion JFK-NRT/HND-KUL).
Thanks,
First, right now only the 77K is flying....this is the former 77G config, aka no F, aka not the plane that flies ORD (that's 77H, with F). So what this means is 77K is only going to appear on routes where 77G was present. (See the link at bottom to make better sense of this)
But, presumably 77H reconfigurations are coming soon, too. And that reconfigured 77H will be flying to ORD. The problem is we don't know when those planes will be coming out of the shop.
ONCE the planes come out of the shop, we don't exactly know how CX will roster them. For example, normally there is no special rotation for CX birds. Aka, if you have a 77H-specific flight you could get any bird in the 77H sub fleet. This has mattered from time to time because of refurbishments: years back an F class refresh, and recently a new IFE and very very minor F class refresh. You could not and cannot predict which flight will get the refreshed vs non refreshed birds. Basically that refreshed 77H could go to JFK, ORD, LHR, FRA, SFO, or any of the other flight numbers scheduled for 77H service. Edit later: It seems like CX won't be rostering these birds in a special manner based on G-CIVG's post below. Meaning, what I describe above in this paragraph is most likely - you won't be able to predict it as long as the reconfigs are still ongoing. So with your flight to/from ORD over Thanksgiving, you will not be able to know, period.
In the meantime follow this sheet below of ours: we maintain it with all the CX and KA configs and update it at least once a week or more. AFAIK it's the most accurate public source of CX fleet, route, config etc info.
Cathay Pacific / Cathay Dragon Fleet, Route and Configuration Guide
Last edited by QRC3288; Apr 18, 2018 at 10:59 pm Reason: edited due to G-CIVG's post below. Added underlined section and strikethrough to old text.
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I have heard (but I can't confirm with 100% certainty) that the no port will be 'pegged' with the 77J/77K configurations until the vast majority of refitting is complete.
But by no means is CX keeping the current single frame on regionals only. In fact, it's already been rostered on long haul rotations before the end of this month.
But by no means is CX keeping the current single frame on regionals only. In fact, it's already been rostered on long haul rotations before the end of this month.
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I'd bet this scenario could lead to greater op-ups for the next 6-12 months as these new birds get reconfigured. I'd bet eventually, CX might start betting on the increased capacity and overselling Y a little bit more, especially to places like LAX and JFK where they have multiple frequencies of the same bird type each day. Going to be interesting.....
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Some more photos of the new seats and how snug they are in the real world
https://www.businesstraveller.com/bu...ing-777-cabin/
https://www.businesstraveller.com/bu...ing-777-cabin/
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Was on B-KPY to Nagoya on April 13 - and from gathering of the above posts, seems it was the first 777-300ER refitted with 10 abreast.
Thoughts:
I was seated in Economy window seat with two companions; the seat itself is a major improvement: despite being slimmer than before, they finally got the lumbar padding right and it's the first time i've never needed to ask for a pillow to put on my lower back.
The aisles are definitely noticeable narrower, and my companion sitting on the aisle seat noticed much more people bumping into the chairs. The cabin is noticeably much more cramp.
Strangely - Premium economy was not updated to the current ones on the A350 aircraft. However, I flew the A350 on PE (new) a day before from London and was on a 777-300ER PE back from Nagoya when I came back. Would agree that the new Premium Economy seat is not an improvement beyond the IFE.
Thoughts:
I was seated in Economy window seat with two companions; the seat itself is a major improvement: despite being slimmer than before, they finally got the lumbar padding right and it's the first time i've never needed to ask for a pillow to put on my lower back.
The aisles are definitely noticeable narrower, and my companion sitting on the aisle seat noticed much more people bumping into the chairs. The cabin is noticeably much more cramp.
Strangely - Premium economy was not updated to the current ones on the A350 aircraft. However, I flew the A350 on PE (new) a day before from London and was on a 777-300ER PE back from Nagoya when I came back. Would agree that the new Premium Economy seat is not an improvement beyond the IFE.