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Old May 11, 2018, 10:34 am
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Originally Posted by CDKing
Is it still the case arrive HKG in CX F connecting to separate ticket on Dragon flight in Y gets F lounge access? I booked a stopover in HKG and looking at side trip to CKG. May be worth paying $50 more to fly Dragon Air if that's the case.

Then of course toughest decision is leave airport or spend 7 hours in the F lounge, of course splitting the time is an option too I assume.
HKG-CKG is less than 5 hours, so if you are connecting from a long-haul F you will definitely have F lounge access per oneworld rules.
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Old Feb 3, 2019, 10:34 pm
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I'm flying SFO - HKG - ICN on same ticket; first flight is in CX F, second is in CX J. Arrive in HKG at 6AM, then departing 19 hours later at 1:05am. I recognize this isn't technically "same calendar day". Am I likely to face any push back on being granted lounge access at 6am for a 1:05am departure or entering the departures area 19 hours before my flight?

I don't intend to spend 19 hours in the lounges, but would like to nap, eat, and freshen up before heading into the city for a few hours and then going back to the airport lounges to relax. I recognize doing so would require asking to be escorted from departures area to immigration. If I'm already pushing my luck, I might need to reconsider.

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Old Feb 3, 2019, 11:02 pm
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Originally Posted by Nazdoom
I'm flying SFO - HKG - ICN on same ticket; first flight is in CX F, second is in CX J. Arrive in HKG at 6AM, then departing 19 hours later at 1:05am. I recognize this isn't technically "same calendar day". Am I likely to face any push back on being granted lounge access at 6am for a 1:05am departure or entering the departures area 19 hours before my flight?

I don't intend to spend 19 hours in the lounges, but would like to nap, eat, and freshen up before heading into the city for a few hours and then going back to the airport lounges to relax. I recognize doing so would require asking to be escorted from departures area to immigration. If I'm already pushing my luck, I might need to reconsider.

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I must give credit for finding this thread! instead of starting a new one, which is what 8/10 people do when asking this question (we seem to get this question weekly).

The criteria is not same day (from 24 hour clock standpoint), nor is it 24 hours. The criteria is same airport day. You are arriving and departing on the same airport day and will have no problem using the F lounge. As I've repeated a few times in the other one-off repetitive threads, it would obviously be a little crazy for CX to impose a "same day" based on a 24 hour clock, since that would cutoff everyone from the F lounge who flies after midnight....which is the case with many flights, particularly long-haul ones. Anyway, one airport day lasts from the pre-dawn arrivals at 4:30 or 5am or so, until departure of last flight around 2:30am or so. The next "day" rolls over after the last departure, which depends on time of year but in the past has been Surabaya, Dubai, or maybe a delayed Europe flight.

You won't have any problem.
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Old Feb 3, 2019, 11:04 pm
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Originally Posted by QRC3288
I must give credit for finding this thread! instead of starting a new one, which is what 8/10 people do when asking this question (we seem to get this question weekly).

The criteria is not same day (from 24 hour clock standpoint), nor is it 24 hours. The criteria is same airport day. You are arriving and departing on the same airport day and will have no problem using the F lounge. As I've repeated a few times in the other one-off repetitive threads, it would obviously be a little crazy for CX to impose a "same day" based on a 24 hour clock, since that would cutoff everyone from the F lounge who flies after midnight....which is the case with many flights, particularly long-haul ones. Anyway, one airport day lasts from the pre-dawn arrivals at 4:30 or 5am or so, until departure of last flight around 2:30am or so. The next "day" rolls over after the last departure, which depends on time of year but in the past has been Surabaya, Dubai, or maybe a delayed Europe flight.

You won't have any problem.
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Old Feb 3, 2019, 11:08 pm
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Where you might have a problem is entering airside and then wanting to exit the airport. These days it’s frowned upon.
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Old Feb 4, 2019, 8:50 am
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Where you might have a problem is entering airside and then wanting to exit the airport. These days it’s frowned upon.
Which frankly makes sense, either your in transit or your not
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Old Feb 4, 2019, 6:26 pm
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I apologize if this is covered above and I am asking the same question in a different way. I am flying in paid F SFO to HKG arriving 6am then have a connecting flight in J to HAN 11 hours later. My wife happenes to be flying with me on a mileage F flight on the same SFO-HKG flight but then a Mileage J flight two days later to CHC. We would like to use the lounges in HKG for a couple hours after we land at 6am then get to our hotel around noon.
1) Can we both have lounge access that day based on my 11 hour later connecting flight or her current F arrival flight?
2) Do we need to need to leave arrivals and go to departs first?
3) Has this changed since Cathay .... down arrivals lounge?
4) What is the entering airside then wanting to exit airport part that is frowned upon?

Thank you very much for your help.
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Old Feb 4, 2019, 8:16 pm
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To the guy above: not possible

Your wife is not permitted on the departures side. She lacks a same day boarding pass. Thus, not possible.

You can do it alone, but as stated above the practice is being cracked down on. People have reported 30+ minute waits to get taken back out from the departure lounge to arrivals area.

Fwiw, I have confirmation from HKIA that they have intentionally slowed the process because people aren't supposed to be doing this. Although it is very hard to prove people don't have a legitimate reason.

However, this isn't even an option for your wife.
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Old Feb 5, 2019, 4:01 am
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I am on the flights below in May. Will I be able to use the F lounge in HKG between flights?

CX811 (777-300ER) Seat 1A Depart JFK 1450 hrs - Arrive HKG 1850 hrs (FIrst)
CX161 (777-300ER) Seat 12K Depart HKG 2130 hrs - Arrive SYD 0850 hrs (Business)
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Old Feb 5, 2019, 4:48 am
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I am on the flights below in May. Will I be able to use the F lounge in HKG between flights?

CX811 (777-300ER) Seat 1A Depart JFK 1450 hrs - Arrive HKG 1850 hrs (FIrst)
CX161 (777-300ER) Seat 12K Depart HKG 2130 hrs - Arrive SYD 0850 hrs (Business)
Of course
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Old Feb 5, 2019, 5:30 am
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Originally Posted by RealityBites
I am on the flights below in May. Will I be able to use the F lounge in HKG between flights?

CX811 (777-300ER) Seat 1A Depart JFK 1450 hrs - Arrive HKG 1850 hrs (FIrst)
CX161 (777-300ER) Seat 12K Depart HKG 2130 hrs - Arrive SYD 0850 hrs (Business)
just fyi CX811 goes from Boston. And lands at 6am not 7pm. So....may want to check your itinerary!

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Of course
Actually, technically NO. I'm amazed this is posted incorrectly! The HKG-SYD flight is not classified as short haul by OW rules. OW rules, posted around here too many times to count, indicate Longhaul F to Shorthaul gets F lounge access. But, shorthaul is defined as 5 hours or less. There is NO stipulation that longhaul F to longhaul J gets it.

Of course....in reality, CX is known to be generous with folks flying their own metal connections. So I think it's likely the OP gets it. But the rules say NO unless he/she is OWE. And I think we're had people with both experiences post here. It's not guaranteed, not entitled.

And this also assumes the OP is departing same day as arrival. It seems that way but not technically said by the poster in question, and given how many people are on tix with multi-day stopovers posting here, you never know. IF that flight is arrival day +1 (or later), then the answer is "no" for sure. Whereas CX will more likely be generous and extend F lounge access if it is same arrival day as departure. But unfortunately as I say above, not technically entitled.

I will add, people sitting in 1A get two extra F guests..... Joke. The seat numbers don't matter.
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Old Feb 5, 2019, 7:31 pm
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Originally Posted by QRC3288
just fyi CX811 goes from Boston. And lands at 6am not 7pm. So....may want to check your itinerary!



Actually, technically NO. I'm amazed this is posted incorrectly! The HKG-SYD flight is not classified as short haul by OW rules. OW rules, posted around here too many times to count, indicate Longhaul F to Shorthaul gets F lounge access. But, shorthaul is defined as 5 hours or less. There is NO stipulation that longhaul F to longhaul J gets it.

Of course....in reality, CX is known to be generous with folks flying their own metal connections. So I think it's likely the OP gets it. But the rules say NO unless he/she is OWE. And I think we're had people with both experiences post here. It's not guaranteed, not entitled.

And this also assumes the OP is departing same day as arrival. It seems that way but not technically said by the poster in question, and given how many people are on tix with multi-day stopovers posting here, you never know. IF that flight is arrival day +1 (or later), then the answer is "no" for sure. Whereas CX will more likely be generous and extend F lounge access if it is same arrival day as departure. But unfortunately as I say above, not technically entitled.

I will add, people sitting in 1A get two extra F guests..... Joke. The seat numbers don't matter.
I was working on the assumption the OP knew what he was taking about ( landing evening & departing at night, same day )
His arrival BP gets him F lounge ?
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Old Feb 5, 2019, 7:56 pm
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Originally Posted by chris63


I was working on the assumption the OP knew what he was taking about ( landing evening & departing at night, same day )
His arrival BP gets him F lounge ?
No, his arrival BP technically does NOT give him access to the F lounge according to the letter of the rules. HKG-SYD is defined as longhaul and therefore his inbound BP is irrelevant.

In practice I think he'll get in. But in the spirit of correct advice, "of course" just isn't accurate!
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Old Feb 5, 2019, 8:13 pm
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Originally Posted by QRC3288
No, his arrival BP technically does NOT give him access to the F lounge according to the letter of the rules. HKG-SYD is defined as longhaul and therefore his inbound BP is irrelevant.

In practice I think he'll get in. But in the spirit of correct advice, "of course" just isn't accurate!
Understood.
My arrival BP’s have always worked so far ^
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Old Feb 6, 2019, 1:24 am
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Originally Posted by QRC3288
just fyi CX811 goes from Boston. And lands at 6am not 7pm. So....may want to check your itinerary!
CX831 from JFK, same day connection, with 02h 40m transit in HKG,
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