Giving lai see to cabin crew
#1
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Giving lai see to cabin crew
I’m not sure if this has been covered before (and I can’t seem to find anything with regards to my question) - does anyone know if giving lai see to cabin crew is allowed / ok / good etiquette? I’ll be on CX884 on J, flying on the first day of CNY and I thought it will be a nice gesture. Will cabin crew be allowed to keep the lai see?
#3
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I don't think they are allowed to get red pockets because it has cash. However, I usually get them a box of sweets or even some Starbucks coffee card during holiday seasons.
Cash is perhaps not allowed as a gift and I don't want the F/As to get in troubles, if the purser is being a very strict one.
Carfield
Cash is perhaps not allowed as a gift and I don't want the F/As to get in troubles, if the purser is being a very strict one.
Carfield
#4
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I don't think they are allowed to get red pockets because it has cash. However, I usually get them a box of sweets or even some Starbucks coffee card during holiday seasons.
Cash is perhaps not allowed as a gift and I don't want the F/As to get in troubles, if the purser is being a very strict one.
Carfield
Cash is perhaps not allowed as a gift and I don't want the F/As to get in troubles, if the purser is being a very strict one.
Carfield
#6
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I will report anyone giving cash/red packets to a flight attendant as it may construe a bribe for a different/enhanced service. Don't think the ICAC will look upon this lightly either.
I haven't seen anyone done so either. Don't think it is customary for flight attendants, unlike security guards or the tea lady at work.
I haven't seen anyone done so either. Don't think it is customary for flight attendants, unlike security guards or the tea lady at work.
#7
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i wouldnt if i were you. most hk corp policy say if they must accept to save face for clients, they will accept it but go to gift register etc and eventually get donated. so they have more admin task and not have the money, i think its Only nuisance.
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I will report anyone giving cash/red packets to a flight attendant as it may construe a bribe for a different/enhanced service. Don't think the ICAC will look upon this lightly either.
I haven't seen anyone done so either. Don't think it is customary for flight attendants, unlike security guards or the tea lady at work.
I haven't seen anyone done so either. Don't think it is customary for flight attendants, unlike security guards or the tea lady at work.
While this never cross my mind, but ICAC for giving lei see to cabin crew? really?
Bribe really happens when you demand/expect a return... Bribe: persuade (someone) to act in one's favor, typically illegally or dishonestly, by a gift of money or other inducement.
I give lei see during new year for different service industries including but not limited to doorman, especially morning tea... and hope they will provide better service. Airline not accepting gift is more an airline rule, than breaking any law. Lei See is more like a culture, of course, depends on sum...
If so, ANY goods including chocolate will be treated the same.
I haven't watched HK drama for quite some time, maybe I need to catch up.....
To be clear, I think giving chocolates/sweet to cabin crew is more practical (and less headache) , and did see them gladly accepted it from a passenger in the past. And I did not report them, instead, the flight crew usually happy and benefiting the entire cabin (me included).
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I will report anyone giving cash/red packets to a flight attendant as it may construe a bribe for a different/enhanced service. Don't think the ICAC will look upon this lightly either.
I haven't seen anyone done so either. Don't think it is customary for flight attendants, unlike security guards or the tea lady at work.
I haven't seen anyone done so either. Don't think it is customary for flight attendants, unlike security guards or the tea lady at work.
Basically CX/Swire has an order where they cannot accept laisees period then crew do not have the authorization to take it. (As opposed to say Maxims where they *can* accept laisees for ard 15 days during LNY - or some places they can probably take laisees/tips around the year)
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OT.
While this never cross my mind, but ICAC for giving lei see to cabin crew? really?
Bribe really happens when you demand/expect a return... Bribe: persuade (someone) to act in one's favor, typically illegally or dishonestly, by a gift of money or other inducement.
I give lei see during new year for different service industries including but not limited to doorman, especially morning tea... and hope they will provide better service. Airline not accepting gift is more an airline rule, than breaking any law. Lei See is more like a culture, of course, depends on sum...
If so, ANY goods including chocolate will be treated the same.
I haven't watched HK drama for quite some time, maybe I need to catch up.....
To be clear, I think giving chocolates/sweet to cabin crew is more practical (and less headache) , and did see them gladly accepted it from a passenger in the past. And I did not report them, instead, the flight crew usually happy and benefiting the entire cabin (me included).
While this never cross my mind, but ICAC for giving lei see to cabin crew? really?
Bribe really happens when you demand/expect a return... Bribe: persuade (someone) to act in one's favor, typically illegally or dishonestly, by a gift of money or other inducement.
I give lei see during new year for different service industries including but not limited to doorman, especially morning tea... and hope they will provide better service. Airline not accepting gift is more an airline rule, than breaking any law. Lei See is more like a culture, of course, depends on sum...
If so, ANY goods including chocolate will be treated the same.
I haven't watched HK drama for quite some time, maybe I need to catch up.....
To be clear, I think giving chocolates/sweet to cabin crew is more practical (and less headache) , and did see them gladly accepted it from a passenger in the past. And I did not report them, instead, the flight crew usually happy and benefiting the entire cabin (me included).
It would be an interesting day (not...) when CC can do this avoiding CX' radar. nothing much to do with OP on sth CX clearly says it cannot be done.
Last edited by kaka; Feb 13, 2018 at 8:33 pm
#13
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believe there's some policies somewhere stating the maximum amount they can receive before turning down / reporting to company.
IMO, HK$20 is something that's very reasonable as a kind gesture, at the same time won't sound off any radar for potential bribery.
IMO, HK$20 is something that's very reasonable as a kind gesture, at the same time won't sound off any radar for potential bribery.
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OT.
While this never cross my mind, but ICAC for giving lei see to cabin crew? really?
Bribe really happens when you demand/expect a return... Bribe: persuade (someone) to act in one's favor, typically illegally or dishonestly, by a gift of money or other inducement.
I give lei see during new year for different service industries including but not limited to doorman, especially morning tea... and hope they will provide better service. Airline not accepting gift is more an airline rule, than breaking any law. Lei See is more like a culture, of course, depends on sum...
To be clear, I think giving chocolates/sweet to cabin crew is more practical (and less headache) , and did see them gladly accepted it from a passenger in the past. And I did not report them, instead, the flight crew usually happy and benefiting the entire cabin (me included).
While this never cross my mind, but ICAC for giving lei see to cabin crew? really?
Bribe really happens when you demand/expect a return... Bribe: persuade (someone) to act in one's favor, typically illegally or dishonestly, by a gift of money or other inducement.
I give lei see during new year for different service industries including but not limited to doorman, especially morning tea... and hope they will provide better service. Airline not accepting gift is more an airline rule, than breaking any law. Lei See is more like a culture, of course, depends on sum...
To be clear, I think giving chocolates/sweet to cabin crew is more practical (and less headache) , and did see them gladly accepted it from a passenger in the past. And I did not report them, instead, the flight crew usually happy and benefiting the entire cabin (me included).
Well, in case someone like @hkskyline is lurking around on my flight I shall be prudent and refrain from giving lai see packets. Chocolates sound good, but lest they are also deemed as bribes I'd go for egg tarts
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It was always my habit to give out Starbucks cards - in the States, I would use that as small denomination Christmas gifts for service industry folks and in Asia, I think it is more acceptable than giving lai see (IMO). Although I would love to see the ICAC case of the HKD20 lai see.