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Discussion of The Deck continues here:
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Confirmed: CX lounge operator change to Sodexo
#152
Join Date: Nov 2017
Programs: MPC-DM, Enrich-Plat
Posts: 1,310
@Cambo there is a new selection of Champagne, including the much preferred Perrier-Jouet.
#153
Join Date: May 2004
Location: TPE
Programs: AA EXP 2MM
Posts: 507
I believe that among the juices there is also now white guava juice.
SXC questioned whether The Bridge has changed to Sodexo. This I don't know, but for sure the breakfast offerings are different. Besides the food in the heated round serving dishes on the right side not looking particularly appetizing, the panini area in the middle wasn't offering the same toasts/sandwiches as in the past.
Indeed, it's all very subjective. We all have our favorites. I just happen to like bacon and chocolate, and both have disappeared. Life will go on.....
#154
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: MNL
Programs: CX MPO DM, Le Club Accor Platinum, World of Hyatt Explorist
Posts: 2,284
SXC questioned whether The Bridge has changed to Sodexo. This I don't know, but for sure the breakfast offerings are different. Besides the food in the heated round serving dishes on the right side not looking particularly appetizing, the panini area in the middle wasn't offering the same toasts/sandwiches as in the past..
#155
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Hong Kong
Programs: CX, UA, Shangri-La, Hyatt, Starwood
Posts: 7,708
I don't drink, though reading FT and other travel sites/blogs, a preferred champagne nearly always translates to a higher retail price version. So, to me, a more preferred/expensive champagne, might easily outweigh some dropped goodies, consumed by only a few people. Not so say, I can't imagine, port&sherry are completely dropped, more probably concentrated in one area, together with other alcohol beverages. Let me check myself next month
Meanwhile, the food is clearly worse.
I can't comment on the alcohol offerings, as those aren't of import to me. As a mentioned, there was a small buffet now in the canteen with hot offerings (I think 2 types of dim sum, fried rice, and sausages). They were okay, but nothing that would define this as an F lounge. That's why I say, as a previous poster mentioned, that a more well-rounded buffet with quality offerings (and that are distinguished from the offerings in the J lounge) might be a positive move.
I believe that among the juices there is also now white guava juice.
SXC questioned whether The Bridge has changed to Sodexo. This I don't know, but for sure the breakfast offerings are different. Besides the food in the heated round serving dishes on the right side not looking particularly appetizing, the panini area in the middle wasn't offering the same toasts/sandwiches as in the past.
Indeed, it's all very subjective. We all have our favorites. I just happen to like bacon and chocolate, and both have disappeared. Life will go on.....
I believe that among the juices there is also now white guava juice.
SXC questioned whether The Bridge has changed to Sodexo. This I don't know, but for sure the breakfast offerings are different. Besides the food in the heated round serving dishes on the right side not looking particularly appetizing, the panini area in the middle wasn't offering the same toasts/sandwiches as in the past.
Indeed, it's all very subjective. We all have our favorites. I just happen to like bacon and chocolate, and both have disappeared. Life will go on.....
Agreed.
#156
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Hong Kong
Programs: CX, UA, Shangri-La, Hyatt, Starwood
Posts: 7,708
Takeways from change to PP, and now to Sodexo
To PP
The biggest change I noticed was service got worse. Not in a mean way but far less polished, orders screwed up, chickens running around without heads. Food items seemed to become slightly less quality / and or cheaper, but overall service was the big thing I noticed. Somewhat incompetent.
To Sodexo
Food quality has tanked. It's basically the feel of an industrial kitchen now. Even though I thought PP "declined" from Peninsula, PP still tried to uphold some of the same standards and the "old way" of Peninsula.
Compare that to the change to Sodexo. Food in the last few weeks in Wing and Pier F feel like mass produced food coming off an industrial assembly line. It is just night and day.
The staff all seem very pleasant, but it doesn't feel polished at all. At least I can say they are not rude. I'm giving them a pass for screwing up my orders two out of the last two times because I guess that's the norm now when we change lounge operators (lol, second change in 2 years right?), and the new company staff need time to settle in. But clearly food quality / philosophy is very different with this company, or their budget just got slashed. Either way it's a bummer for CX.
The biggest change I noticed was service got worse. Not in a mean way but far less polished, orders screwed up, chickens running around without heads. Food items seemed to become slightly less quality / and or cheaper, but overall service was the big thing I noticed. Somewhat incompetent.
To Sodexo
Food quality has tanked. It's basically the feel of an industrial kitchen now. Even though I thought PP "declined" from Peninsula, PP still tried to uphold some of the same standards and the "old way" of Peninsula.
Compare that to the change to Sodexo. Food in the last few weeks in Wing and Pier F feel like mass produced food coming off an industrial assembly line. It is just night and day.
The staff all seem very pleasant, but it doesn't feel polished at all. At least I can say they are not rude. I'm giving them a pass for screwing up my orders two out of the last two times because I guess that's the norm now when we change lounge operators (lol, second change in 2 years right?), and the new company staff need time to settle in. But clearly food quality / philosophy is very different with this company, or their budget just got slashed. Either way it's a bummer for CX.
#158
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: NYC/SIN
Programs: CX DM, SQ KF
Posts: 2,170
FlyPointyEnd- thanks..
this is depressing- if there was one good thing with CX over the past few years- it had been the lounges....F&B/crew morale decline is well documented..the hardware, while still up there, is no longer ‘head and shoulders’ above..and now, this..
this is depressing- if there was one good thing with CX over the past few years- it had been the lounges....F&B/crew morale decline is well documented..the hardware, while still up there, is no longer ‘head and shoulders’ above..and now, this..
#160
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: MNL
Programs: CX MPO DM, Le Club Accor Platinum, World of Hyatt Explorist
Posts: 2,284
Last edited by FlyPointyEnd; May 23, 2018 at 6:21 am
#161
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: MNL
Programs: CX MPO DM, Le Club Accor Platinum, World of Hyatt Explorist
Posts: 2,284
I blame both the guest and the staff for this last photo. It’s really not an excuse for the staff not to routinely clean up the restroom, but at the same time I wonder why can’t guests discard the tissue paper properly? The bin was right there.
#162
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Join Date: May 2006
Location: HKG
Programs: A3, TK *G; JL JGC; SPG,Hilton Gold
Posts: 9,952
#163
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: HKG/HND/OOL
Programs: QF Emerald. SQ Gold.
Posts: 3,170
i always order dan dan noodle with wonton. every time F got it right... after handover they brought me dan dan noodle with wontone (welldone) but also brought me.wonton noodle... when i said its not for me, they still tried.to tell me to have it, then 2 wait staff started arguing right in front of me why they screwed up order.... i mean come on this is F lounge i am eating.... they need training of common sense, theh should have immediately disappered to kitchen and argur there...
#164
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i always order dan dan noodle with wonton. every time F got it right... after handover they brought me dan dan noodle with wontone (welldone) but also brought me.wonton noodle... when i said its not for me, they still tried.to tell me to have it, then 2 wait staff started arguing right in front of me why they screwed up order.... i mean come on this is F lounge i am eating.... they need training of common sense, theh should have immediately disappered to kitchen and argur there...
#165
Join Date: Jan 2017
Programs: Cathay Pacific, Air Astana
Posts: 102
I was in the Bridge J on I think 3rd May breakfast time. No bacon. No dim sums. Very tasteless sausages. Noticeable drop in quality. I was hoping it was just teething issues.
I was in The Wing J about 10 days ago and didn't bother too much with the food; I didn't fancy noodles and the self serve options I struggle to remember; I think I had a roll and salami plus some cheese - okay but nothing to write home about. But to be fair, it's been a while since I last went upstairs at The Wing.
One thing though about The Wing. usually I stay downstairs when I'm there. but 10 days ago, I was basically ushered to go upstairs - so just wondering whether downstairs was full or whether the CX greeters were keen to steer customers away from whatever was offered downstairs!?
I was in The Wing J about 10 days ago and didn't bother too much with the food; I didn't fancy noodles and the self serve options I struggle to remember; I think I had a roll and salami plus some cheese - okay but nothing to write home about. But to be fair, it's been a while since I last went upstairs at The Wing.
One thing though about The Wing. usually I stay downstairs when I'm there. but 10 days ago, I was basically ushered to go upstairs - so just wondering whether downstairs was full or whether the CX greeters were keen to steer customers away from whatever was offered downstairs!?