Differences between gold and diamond?
Jan 29, 2018, 10:19 am
#121
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 525
I never seem to have problems getting a bottle of water when asking for one. Hell, I even got Evian a few times.
Jan 29, 2018, 10:34 am
#122
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: YYZ
Programs: Ex-Bonvoyed, Hyatt, Hilton, BR, AC, AA
Posts: 1,289
You've read my mind... A multi-page discussion about whether or not a single bottle of water was offered on a flight. You'd think the bottle was lined with gold.
Jan 29, 2018, 11:10 am
#123
Join Date: Dec 2014
Programs: British Airways Executive Club Gold
Posts: 1,073
Jan 29, 2018, 12:13 pm
#124
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 525
As a previous poster pointed out, it just beats having to keep getting glasses of water.
Jan 29, 2018, 1:52 pm
#125
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: HKG
Programs: BA(GGL) QF LTS CX AM, Hilton Diamond, PPL(A)
Posts: 1,654
I think CX should have their own designs on the water instead of the stock standard Evian. Why not put their own logo and have them clearly marked CX DM, CX GO, OWE
Then we know the pecking order on the plane
Jan 29, 2018, 2:08 pm
#126
Join Date: Dec 2014
Programs: British Airways Executive Club Gold
Posts: 1,073
Indeed, for me it is more of a convenience thing. I wouldn't mind if the whole plane all got bottles of water. But i normally drink 2 bottles on the plane to keep hydrated. I don't think the CC would be too happy if i kept calling the call bell to refill that puny cup of water... so it is a win-win.
I think CX should have their own designs on the water instead of the stock standard Evian. Why not put their own logo and have them clearly marked CX DM, CX GO, OWE Then we know the pecking order on the plane
I think CX should have their own designs on the water instead of the stock standard Evian. Why not put their own logo and have them clearly marked CX DM, CX GO, OWE
Then we know the pecking order on the plane
Jan 29, 2018, 5:38 pm
#127
Join Date: Jan 2006
Programs: AAdvantage Asia Miles Air China
Posts: 870
Jan 29, 2018, 5:46 pm
#128
Join Date: Nov 2006
Programs: MPC,CA,MU,AF
Posts: 8,171
In the past, CX only provided bottle water to DM (or DM/GO) for long haul only. KA used to provide water to all Y passengers regardless of status, but I don't think they are doing that anymore.
Jan 29, 2018, 7:03 pm
#129
Join Date: Nov 2017
Programs: MPC-DM, Enrich-Plat
Posts: 1,310
To give you an idea, I once saw a profit calculation for Easyjet, given the number of aircraft, the number of legs per day, the reported overall company profit, the average profit per leg came out at around USD 20 (not per passenger, though for the whole aircraft). Long haul flights will undoubtedly have a higher margin per leg, though unlikely being an order of magnitude higher.
So bottom line, by serving small portions water, at the expense of flight attendants running around more often, the company saves quite a lot of money.
Forget about reducing the number of flight attendants, that's already regulated to a minimum amount, based on passenger and door count, ie safety.
Airlines aren't that stupid.....
Jan 29, 2018, 8:55 pm
#130
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: NYC/SIN
Programs: CX DM, SQ KF
Posts: 2,169
Maybe it is because I only qualified in late Dec, maybe they do not give these out in SG (anymore?) or maybe they just don’t like me enough. 
Am at about 100% for a bottle of water when in Coach of Premium eco..and wife is at about 50% when travelling with me (GO, but some flights without her status on the booking).
What I really wont mind is a bottle of the signature scent that Oz based DMs got, apparently .
Jan 29, 2018, 8:59 pm
#131
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 525
Actually, it is. Assume each passenger drinks (the equivalent of) 4 bottles @ 0.3L per flight (long haul), that'll be 1.2 kg. For 350 passengers, that'll be (rounded) 400 kg. That water largely doesn't leave the airplane (it does leave the passenger, though ends up in the septic tank, which is only emptied when back on the ground). To haul around 400 kg of water, that'll cost roughly 1200 kg of fuel, which is roughly 1500 liters. With each liter kerosene at around USD 0.80, this costs around USD 1200. So, when you manage to hand out only half (or even 3/4) of the water amount by just dehydrating the passenger, you save quite a lot of money.
To give you an idea, I once saw a profit calculation for Easyjet, given the number of aircraft, the number of legs per day, the reported overall company profit, the average profit per leg came out at around USD 20 (not per passenger, though for the whole aircraft). Long haul flights will undoubtedly have a higher margin per leg, though unlikely being an order of magnitude higher.
So bottom line, by serving small portions water, at the expense of flight attendants running around more often, the company saves quite a lot of money.
Forget about reducing the number of flight attendants, that's already regulated to a minimum amount, based on passenger and door count, ie safety.
Airlines aren't that stupid.....
To give you an idea, I once saw a profit calculation for Easyjet, given the number of aircraft, the number of legs per day, the reported overall company profit, the average profit per leg came out at around USD 20 (not per passenger, though for the whole aircraft). Long haul flights will undoubtedly have a higher margin per leg, though unlikely being an order of magnitude higher.
So bottom line, by serving small portions water, at the expense of flight attendants running around more often, the company saves quite a lot of money.
Forget about reducing the number of flight attendants, that's already regulated to a minimum amount, based on passenger and door count, ie safety.
Airlines aren't that stupid.....
Coming soon on a LCC near you?
Jan 30, 2018, 6:11 am
#132
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: HKG
Programs: BA(GGL) QF LTS CX AM, Hilton Diamond, PPL(A)
Posts: 1,654
SG based DM for the past 7yrs..got a nice welcome email when I changed my address to Singapore..used to get gifts (diary/calendar etc) around New Year and the red packets around CNY..nothing past couple of years..
Am at about 100% for a bottle of water when in Coach of Premium eco..and wife is at about 50% when travelling with me (GO, but some flights without her status on the booking).
What I really wont mind is a bottle of the signature scent that Oz based DMs got, apparently .