HKG to MNL: No Seats for Sale - All Zero's. But Seats Open?
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HKG to MNL: No Seats for Sale - All Zero's. But Seats Open?
Trying to gain some insight in Cathay's rather bizarre inventory control.
Looking at CX905 HKG to MNL (Dec 28). Been watching it for a few weeks. Plan to get a J seat. Hoping for redemption. Willing to buy seat if necessary.
So today they suddenly go to
J0 C0 D0 I0 W0 R0 E0 Y0 B0 H0 K0 M0
L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0
Whoa!
But when I look at seat availability, I see plenty. Sure, it's not empty. Nor is it full. I've attached the Seat Map.
I searched the boards here to see if someone could explain why they would do that. I saw two reasonable explanations:
1) The flight is oversold in one class -- maybe by a lot -- and they need to reserve space for op-up.
2) The flight is empty and they are contemplating cancellation.
Neither seems to be the case here. I know seat maps are not a precise reflection of bookings, but it seems they are a reasonable indicator. I know some people can't/don't select their seats at the time of purchase, but as I understand it when a ticket is booked like that CX will block A seat (as indicated by an "X") So if that is the case, they are certainly over half full. (The SOLD/OPEN is: Economy, 130/62, PE 12/9 if the "X" in PE is for bassinet, and J is only 10/29. Overall 152 sold out of 252, or 60%).
I also checked the preceding flight (CX913), which also shows no tickets for sale. (I thought perhaps that flight might be oversold and CX knew they would need to push people back to CX905). That flight seems to be MORE full, but still not oversold as far as I can see from the seat map. They also blocked 935 and 903 on that same day. They are selling seats on the other three HKG to MNL flights that day, but not for Economy.
Maybe they are considering an equipment swap? Maybe 60% triggers that, but
Or is this just one of the infamous IT glitches?
I'm arriving that day on CX807 and want to continue on to MNL. If CX is truly not going to offer seats here then I will feel compelled to urgently book a flight that night on another airline. Seems foolish of them, no?
Anyone experienced with this particular flight or situation? Should I just sit tight?
Looking at CX905 HKG to MNL (Dec 28). Been watching it for a few weeks. Plan to get a J seat. Hoping for redemption. Willing to buy seat if necessary.
So today they suddenly go to
J0 C0 D0 I0 W0 R0 E0 Y0 B0 H0 K0 M0
L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0
Whoa!
But when I look at seat availability, I see plenty. Sure, it's not empty. Nor is it full. I've attached the Seat Map.
I searched the boards here to see if someone could explain why they would do that. I saw two reasonable explanations:
1) The flight is oversold in one class -- maybe by a lot -- and they need to reserve space for op-up.
2) The flight is empty and they are contemplating cancellation.
Neither seems to be the case here. I know seat maps are not a precise reflection of bookings, but it seems they are a reasonable indicator. I know some people can't/don't select their seats at the time of purchase, but as I understand it when a ticket is booked like that CX will block A seat (as indicated by an "X") So if that is the case, they are certainly over half full. (The SOLD/OPEN is: Economy, 130/62, PE 12/9 if the "X" in PE is for bassinet, and J is only 10/29. Overall 152 sold out of 252, or 60%).
I also checked the preceding flight (CX913), which also shows no tickets for sale. (I thought perhaps that flight might be oversold and CX knew they would need to push people back to CX905). That flight seems to be MORE full, but still not oversold as far as I can see from the seat map. They also blocked 935 and 903 on that same day. They are selling seats on the other three HKG to MNL flights that day, but not for Economy.
Maybe they are considering an equipment swap? Maybe 60% triggers that, but
Or is this just one of the infamous IT glitches?
I'm arriving that day on CX807 and want to continue on to MNL. If CX is truly not going to offer seats here then I will feel compelled to urgently book a flight that night on another airline. Seems foolish of them, no?
Anyone experienced with this particular flight or situation? Should I just sit tight?
Last edited by Gongzuokuang; Dec 21, 2017 at 9:08 am Reason: Added some seat counts.
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I searched the boards here to see if someone could explain why they would do that. I saw two reasonable explanations:
1) The flight is oversold in one class -- maybe by a lot -- and they need to reserve space for op-up.
2) The flight is empty and they are contemplating cancellation.
Neither seems to be the case here. I know seat maps are not a precise reflection of bookings, but it seems they are a reasonable indicator. I know some people can't/don't select their seats at the time of purchase, but as I understand it when a ticket is booked like that CX will block A seat (as indicated by an "X") So if that is the case, they are certainly over half full. (The SOLD/OPEN is: Economy, 130/62, PE 12/9 if the "X" in PE is for bassinet, and J is only 10/29. Overall 152 sold out of 252, or 60%).
1) The flight is oversold in one class -- maybe by a lot -- and they need to reserve space for op-up.
2) The flight is empty and they are contemplating cancellation.
Neither seems to be the case here. I know seat maps are not a precise reflection of bookings, but it seems they are a reasonable indicator. I know some people can't/don't select their seats at the time of purchase, but as I understand it when a ticket is booked like that CX will block A seat (as indicated by an "X") So if that is the case, they are certainly over half full. (The SOLD/OPEN is: Economy, 130/62, PE 12/9 if the "X" in PE is for bassinet, and J is only 10/29. Overall 152 sold out of 252, or 60%).
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