Middle name hassle on CX day of departure
#106
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Seat 1A
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However, I can see a problem for HK Chinese who have their two-part Chinese given names as their first name, especially when travelling on routes that involve Mainland China and the use of the Home Return Permit.
Eg.
Last name: Chan
Given Name: Tan Man (where "Tai Man" is a two-part name)
CHAN/TAI = Not OK to Fly (if ex-HKG or ex-Mainland China, Taiwan and the agent is Chinese) as "TAI" is not a complete name and is disrespectful for a Chinese person as this is "splitting up their name". If flying ex-USA/Europe and the agent is non-Chinese, he/she will likely not care and let the pax fly.
However...
Eg. ABC with actual English first name.
Last Name: Chan
Given Names: David Some-Thing
CHAN/DAVID = OK to fly
Eg. Westerner
Last Name: Smith
Given Name: John Michael
SMITH/JOHN = OK to fly
#107
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: PNW WA state, USA
Programs: AA PP (1MM), Admirals Club, HH Diamond
Posts: 86
The Cathay Pacific website only has Family Name and Given Name fields under the "Primary Travel Document Information" section. Same with the main "Personal Information" section of the "Your Profile" page. Pretty strange that they then try to enforce needing a middle name on your ticket.
#108
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Join Date: May 2009
Location: HKG
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The Cathay Pacific website only has Family Name and Given Name fields under the "Primary Travel Document Information" section. Same with the main "Personal Information" section of the "Your Profile" page. Pretty strange that they then try to enforce needing a middle name on your ticket.
In any case, I can key all my given and middle names into Given Name
Try arguing singular vs plural with a HKG check-in agent.
#109
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: PNW WA state, USA
Programs: AA PP (1MM), Admirals Club, HH Diamond
Posts: 86
Singular; that is what makes it so odd. Especially for an airline like Cathay. Even the application for a China visa was clearer than Cathay’s website when it came to names.
#110
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Join Date: May 1998
Location: NYC
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I think the issue has already been beaten to death.
ICAO passport requirements capture names in two fields.
Amadeus capture name in two fields.
Enter your name matching passport.
ICAO passport requirements capture names in two fields.
Amadeus capture name in two fields.
Enter your name matching passport.
If there are some other travel documents that can be used on a subset of routes in lieu of passport that capture name in more than three fields, then surname in surname field, everything else in the other field (Given Name) in Amadeus/CX/BA/QF.
#111
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 876
Once I had problem with CX ground staff in HKG, they said not OK with one given name.
At the end they requested me to sign a form to release their responsibility, in case I was rejected entry.
Of course no issue for me to enter the country.
At the end they requested me to sign a form to release their responsibility, in case I was rejected entry.
Of course no issue for me to enter the country.
#112
Join Date: Dec 2000
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Posts: 4,124
Were you flying to Mainland China or Vietnam by any chance?
#114
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#115
Join Date: Sep 2005
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The Cathay Pacific website only has Family Name and Given Name fields under the "Primary Travel Document Information" section. Same with the main "Personal Information" section of the "Your Profile" page. Pretty strange that they then try to enforce needing a middle name on your ticket.
#116
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: TPE / HSZ
Programs: CX GO (=SPH), IHG Diamond Amb, Hertz 5*, Accor, Hilton, National
Posts: 6,437
I think the issue has already been beaten to death.
ICAO passport requirements capture names in two fields.
Amadeus capture name in two fields.
Enter your name matching passport.
ICAO passport requirements capture names in two fields.
Amadeus capture name in two fields.
Enter your name matching passport.
If there are some other travel documents that can be used on a subset of routes in lieu of passport that capture name in more than three fields, then surname in surname field, everything else in the other field (Given Name) in Amadeus/CX/BA/QF.
#117
Join Date: Dec 2007
Programs: Air New Zealand Elite
Posts: 446
Hi
Just seeking some advice. We are travelling on CX awards booked via AS in mid September.
I removed my middle name from my AS MP account as I wanted to make sure some SPG points transferred correctly into AS MP.
Then I got award tickets issued by AS on CX.
Does anyone know, can AS retrospectively add my middle name to the award tickets I have? I am going to ring AS to add back my middle name to my AS MP account.
How does that work with tickets already issued without a middle name, whereas my passport has my middle name.
Just don't want to turn up to HKG airport and try and check in to find I can't board because my middle name is missing on the ticket issued by AS.
Thanks in advance.
Just seeking some advice. We are travelling on CX awards booked via AS in mid September.
I removed my middle name from my AS MP account as I wanted to make sure some SPG points transferred correctly into AS MP.
Then I got award tickets issued by AS on CX.
Does anyone know, can AS retrospectively add my middle name to the award tickets I have? I am going to ring AS to add back my middle name to my AS MP account.
How does that work with tickets already issued without a middle name, whereas my passport has my middle name.
Just don't want to turn up to HKG airport and try and check in to find I can't board because my middle name is missing on the ticket issued by AS.
Thanks in advance.
#118
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Seat 1A
Programs: Non-status paid F/J (best value for $$$)
Posts: 4,124
Hi
Just seeking some advice. We are travelling on CX awards booked via AS in mid September.
I removed my middle name from my AS MP account as I wanted to make sure some SPG points transferred correctly into AS MP.
Then I got award tickets issued by AS on CX.
Does anyone know, can AS retrospectively add my middle name to the award tickets I have? I am going to ring AS to add back my middle name to my AS MP account.
How does that work with tickets already issued without a middle name, whereas my passport has my middle name.
Just don't want to turn up to HKG airport and try and check in to find I can't board because my middle name is missing on the ticket issued by AS.
Thanks in advance.
Just seeking some advice. We are travelling on CX awards booked via AS in mid September.
I removed my middle name from my AS MP account as I wanted to make sure some SPG points transferred correctly into AS MP.
Then I got award tickets issued by AS on CX.
Does anyone know, can AS retrospectively add my middle name to the award tickets I have? I am going to ring AS to add back my middle name to my AS MP account.
How does that work with tickets already issued without a middle name, whereas my passport has my middle name.
Just don't want to turn up to HKG airport and try and check in to find I can't board because my middle name is missing on the ticket issued by AS.
Thanks in advance.
#119
Join Date: Dec 2007
Programs: Air New Zealand Elite
Posts: 446
Just letting you know I rang AS to check the ticket information for my CX award bookings and found that two of the 4 bookings didn't have my middle name. The agent added my middle name to those bookings. I would suggest telling the agent, if you make an award booking over the phone to include your middle name, they may forget to ask you.
Apparently it is in the secure information of my tickets now. However the agent just rang me back after double checking (incredible service as I am an international customer) to say she has checked and CX want your middle name to appear on the boarding pass as well. So she has arranged for that to happen and I will get an email with that amendment. To ensure this is the correct protocol I would double check with the agent when making a booking as to what should happen here.
Apparently it is in the secure information of my tickets now. However the agent just rang me back after double checking (incredible service as I am an international customer) to say she has checked and CX want your middle name to appear on the boarding pass as well. So she has arranged for that to happen and I will get an email with that amendment. To ensure this is the correct protocol I would double check with the agent when making a booking as to what should happen here.
Last edited by Ellice; Jul 12, 2018 at 5:15 pm Reason: agent rang back with corrected info
#120
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 27
This is a USA issue - i never used my middle name for bookings until I tried to process an upgrade ex-Newark.
Was told i had to have my middle name in my MPC account and had to fax ID to update it.
They added my middle name after my first name in the first name field and left the middle name field blank.... Im not chinese.
This has never been a problem travelling non-US except the online checkin sometimes throws errors on passport name details which then has to be updated everytime.
Was told i had to have my middle name in my MPC account and had to fax ID to update it.
They added my middle name after my first name in the first name field and left the middle name field blank.... Im not chinese.
This has never been a problem travelling non-US except the online checkin sometimes throws errors on passport name details which then has to be updated everytime.