Cathay Pacific to slash housing packages for pilots
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the pilot will vote for a strike and could take industrial actions at any time from Dec 14.
the pilot will vote for a strike and could take industrial actions at any time from Dec 14.
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Pilots will vote from December 13 to 27 on the option to take action, with results known on December 29. But they could strike “any time” from December 14, the pilots’ union said.
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the pilot will vote for a strike and could take industrial actions at any time from Dec 14.
the pilot will vote for a strike and could take industrial actions at any time from Dec 14.
If yes, strike /industrial actions may not affect cathay much.
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they wet leased from some Chinese carriers back in the 99 strike. So definitely possible. But doubtful that they could wet leased that much capacity from Chinese carriers though, and a passengers definitely won’t be too happy to pay the CX premium to fly on Chinese carriers.
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the pilot will vote for a strike and could take industrial actions at any time from Dec 14.
the pilot will vote for a strike and could take industrial actions at any time from Dec 14.
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Apparently the SCMP article has been updated as the first version made no sense.
The union now says:
"Although sources had indicated a strike was one of the options on the table, as confirmed by union sources, the union itself later insisted such talk was premature, “incorrect” and “false”.
It put such talk down to confusion over an upcoming ballot on how pilots should prepare in the event of a “no-deal” situation."
And the ballot of possible options ends on Dec 27, so no chance of industrial action before 2018. At least that is my current reading.
The union now says:
"Although sources had indicated a strike was one of the options on the table, as confirmed by union sources, the union itself later insisted such talk was premature, “incorrect” and “false”.
It put such talk down to confusion over an upcoming ballot on how pilots should prepare in the event of a “no-deal” situation."
And the ballot of possible options ends on Dec 27, so no chance of industrial action before 2018. At least that is my current reading.
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Apparently, the confusion about "rumors" and subsequent clarification by the union might come from the fact that the reduction in benefits affects pilots quite differently. The senior expat pilots have most to lose, by far.
Not easy for a union to represent a diverse pool of interests and management must be using it in negotiations.
Just designing the questions submitted to the pilots' vote must be a very difficult task.
Not easy for a union to represent a diverse pool of interests and management must be using it in negotiations.
Just designing the questions submitted to the pilots' vote must be a very difficult task.
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now looks like CX have backtracked on slashing housing benefits.
i'm not an expert on industrial law - but if CX had a legal right given it was employment at will- why didn't they just push through and terminate the expensive pilot's contracts?
Loss-making Cathay Pacific extends HK$900 million annual outlay on pilots? homes | South China Morning Post
i'm not an expert on industrial law - but if CX had a legal right given it was employment at will- why didn't they just push through and terminate the expensive pilot's contracts?
Loss-making Cathay Pacific extends HK$900 million annual outlay on pilots? homes | South China Morning Post
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now looks like CX have backtracked on slashing housing benefits.
i'm not an expert on industrial law - but if CX had a legal right given it was employment at will- why didn't they just push through and terminate the expensive pilot's contracts?
Loss-making Cathay Pacific extends HK$900 million annual outlay on pilots? homes South China Morning Post
i'm not an expert on industrial law - but if CX had a legal right given it was employment at will- why didn't they just push through and terminate the expensive pilot's contracts?
Loss-making Cathay Pacific extends HK$900 million annual outlay on pilots? homes South China Morning Post
They absolutely could have pushed through and cancelled the housing contract but they got scared because many of their pilots started to look for jobs elsewhere! Cathay management are becoming increasingly concerned as the resignation rate of aircrew has seriously spiked over the last few weeks, perhaps the housing debarcle was one step too far and they realised this to be the case!
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They absolutely could have pushed through and cancelled the housing contract but they got scared because many of their pilots started to look for jobs elsewhere! Cathay management are becoming increasingly concerned as the resignation rate of aircrew has seriously spiked over the last few weeks, perhaps the housing debarcle was one step too far and they realised this to be the case!
They might have floated some fairly drastic measures, hoping to pass some milder ones in the short run.
And I think that they are more worried about industrial action than a few highly-paid senior pilots resigning.