Virtually non-existent J award on australia flights?
Sep 17, 2017, 6:32 am
#16
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 289
I originally waitlist 5 return tickets about 3 months ago, a month later CX confirmed my return leg, but still waitlist outbound leg. Then when I doing some awards search in Avios site, I noticed QF offering Y seat. But at the same time both CX site and even AM hotline said they cannot see it. I quickly redeem it thru Avios, so I hope CX released some awards J to me
Sep 17, 2017, 7:26 am
#17
Ambassador, Hong Kong and Macau
Join Date: May 2009
Location: HKG
Programs: Non-top tier Asia Miles member
Posts: 19,752
No. There are two 24hr deadlines
One is to cancel the ticket for free (24 hours after ticketing)
The other is to cancel the ticket at all (24 hours before departure) (this rule meant I can't refund my CX595 and take something else http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/catha...l#post28823134 )
One is to cancel the ticket for free (24 hours after ticketing)
The other is to cancel the ticket at all (24 hours before departure) (this rule meant I can't refund my CX595 and take something else http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/catha...l#post28823134 )
Sep 17, 2017, 8:43 am
#18
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 289
No. There are two 24hr deadlines
One is to cancel the ticket for free (24 hours after ticketing)
The other is to cancel the ticket at all (24 hours before departure) (this rule meant I can't refund my CX595 and take something else http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/catha...l#post28823134 )
One is to cancel the ticket for free (24 hours after ticketing)
The other is to cancel the ticket at all (24 hours before departure) (this rule meant I can't refund my CX595 and take something else http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/catha...l#post28823134 )
Will hold one more week to see any chance, will ticket the return leg otherwise
Sep 19, 2017, 4:08 am
#19
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Hong Kong
Programs: CX DM
Posts: 37
I have noticed that most of the time award availability doesn't show up until the last few days. There are some exceptions where it goes out to around 14 days but then it's difficult to find both an inbound/outbound at the same time. For example, there is currently lots of availability almost everyday from MEL/SYD next week + early Oct but nothing on the outbound from HKG (heavy loadings).
Reasonable success thus far on the WL clearing if you're not redeeming last minute.
Reasonable success thus far on the WL clearing if you're not redeeming last minute.
Sep 20, 2017, 2:01 am
#20
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: LON
Programs: BA Gold
Posts: 172
I think it also has something to do with the time of year.
I redeem J HKG-SYD frequently and was able to do so for a pair of mid August flights about 3 weeks out and with around 2 flights a day showing availability.
Availability always gets a bit squeezed towards this time of year, if you have any MPC status there is a very high chance you get op-upped from PEY to J so I don't really think its because the seats are selling out.
The flights definitely do open up anywhere between 2 weeks, 10 days and 2-3 days before departure depending on the loadings. If you follow it closely you will notice the patterns.
I redeem J HKG-SYD frequently and was able to do so for a pair of mid August flights about 3 weeks out and with around 2 flights a day showing availability.
Availability always gets a bit squeezed towards this time of year, if you have any MPC status there is a very high chance you get op-upped from PEY to J so I don't really think its because the seats are selling out.
The flights definitely do open up anywhere between 2 weeks, 10 days and 2-3 days before departure depending on the loadings. If you follow it closely you will notice the patterns.
Sep 20, 2017, 3:49 pm
#21
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: New York, NY
Programs: United Platinum
Posts: 320
I was able to get 2 J reward seats JFK-HKG-MEL using my American points as a One World award. Granted I likely got lucky and was continuously calling for hours the minute that date opened on the calendar but it can be done! This is for mid december.
Oct 3, 2017, 7:32 am
#22
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 289
Some update, CX did released a lot last minute same day or next day awards J seat to SYD, but I holding Avios award seat which I only able waiting last minute next day deal, this time I failed.
My QF118 will flying tomorrow, so I just bought exit row seat from QF.
My QF118 will flying tomorrow, so I just bought exit row seat from QF.
Oct 4, 2017, 9:35 pm
#23
Join Date: Jan 2015
Posts: 192
I'm getting plenty of redemption upgrades from PEY to J on MEL-HKG and return. I usually book about 2 months in advance; it is rare to find availability at that point (I guess the really dedicated rewards guys book 12 months out), but you waitlist and it clears about 80% of the time. Recently I got the upgrade for MEL-HKG about 3 weeks out and HKG-MEL about 2 weeks out. I was particularly impressed with the latter because it was the night before mid-Autumn festival, I thought I was no chance.
Oct 4, 2017, 10:29 pm
#24
Join Date: Apr 2017
Programs: Marco Polo Club, KF
Posts: 208
I'm getting plenty of redemption upgrades from PEY to J on MEL-HKG and return. I usually book about 2 months in advance; it is rare to find availability at that point (I guess the really dedicated rewards guys book 12 months out), but you waitlist and it clears about 80% of the time. Recently I got the upgrade for MEL-HKG about 3 weeks out and HKG-MEL about 2 weeks out. I was particularly impressed with the latter because it was the night before mid-Autumn festival, I thought I was no chance.
Oct 5, 2017, 3:36 am
#25
Join Date: Jan 2015
Posts: 192
Yeah opups are harder to get than redemption upgrades. Also upgrading Y to PEY is a totally different ballgame compared to PEY to J. The Y cabin is so much larger than the PEY cabin, odds are that even if there is a spare seat in PEY, someone else will outrank you in the line for upgrades.
Oct 6, 2017, 6:59 am
#26
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: SYD | HGH
Programs: CX DM, Hyatt Globalist, Hilton DM, Marriott Plat
Posts: 2,121
Yeah opups are harder to get than redemption upgrades. Also upgrading Y to PEY is a totally different ballgame compared to PEY to J. The Y cabin is so much larger than the PEY cabin, odds are that even if there is a spare seat in PEY, someone else will outrank you in the line for upgrades.
However, when you were in PEY and CX bumps up pax from Y to PEY, you will be likely to be bumped to J.
