Typhoon HATO
Aug 23, 2017, 2:21 pm
#91
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I am surprised they put you through this; Cathay staff and the airline are seasoned veterans when dealing with cancellations due to typhoons. And the 27th is a LONG way away vs 23rd (today). And they expect you to pay for your accomodations and meals till then?
Hope you have travel insurance.
Hope you have travel insurance.
Aug 23, 2017, 3:58 pm
#92
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Interesting article on the KLM landing. I'm not a pilot so have to trust the experts on this. Wil be interesting to read any further discussion.
I stand by not flying MH though. They were flying over the Ukraine when most other airlines were deliberately avoiding it. Sure the specific incident was unprecedented but why take that risk?
I stand by not flying MH though. They were flying over the Ukraine when most other airlines were deliberately avoiding it. Sure the specific incident was unprecedented but why take that risk?
Aug 23, 2017, 4:34 pm
#93
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No one thought they were in danger or route wouldn't have been planned.
Grow up.
MH likely had one suicidal individual.. (as has Egyptian, Silk air, ect... it happens) and one stroke of fate. They operate daily into difficult airports in Asia without incident.
I don't work for them or have anything to do with them.. but they are a safe carrier.
Aug 23, 2017, 4:36 pm
#94
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Interesting article on the KLM landing. I'm not a pilot so have to trust the experts on this. Wil be interesting to read any further discussion.
I stand by not flying MH though. They were flying over the Ukraine when most other airlines were deliberately avoiding it. Sure the specific incident was unprecedented but why take that risk?
I stand by not flying MH though. They were flying over the Ukraine when most other airlines were deliberately avoiding it. Sure the specific incident was unprecedented but why take that risk?
Aug 23, 2017, 4:38 pm
#95
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Aug 23, 2017, 8:01 pm
#99
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Indeed and 80 to 110km per hr is nothing extraordinary in many coastal regions.
HK has become so precaution-minded, for legal/media reasons, that it is starting to be ridiculous IMO.
I can understand the risk of the ocean overflowing, as it did today, or a branch falling from a tree, or a typical-HK scaffolding breaking. But if a jetway cannot operate with 100km wind or staff cannot unload bags, then there is a real problem with the airport.
HK has become so precaution-minded, for legal/media reasons, that it is starting to be ridiculous IMO.
I can understand the risk of the ocean overflowing, as it did today, or a branch falling from a tree, or a typical-HK scaffolding breaking. But if a jetway cannot operate with 100km wind or staff cannot unload bags, then there is a real problem with the airport.
The issue is as the construction standards in HK now mean everyone lives in a reinforced concrete bunker and its very easy to feel disconnected from the true intensity of these storms
While its annoying for people to have their flights cancelled its far better than having a plane slide of the runway into the sea or worse.
Aug 23, 2017, 8:14 pm
#100
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These sort of comments pop up every time a typhoon comes along, it seems certain type of people like to downplay the severity of these storms. I assume its ignorance rather than malice. Wind speeds got up to 180kmh at HKIA and 10 people dies as the typhoon made landfall so its wasn't anything like a typical day on the UK coast or 'elf and safety' gone mad.
The issue is as the construction standards in HK now mean everyone lives in a reinforced concrete bunker and its very easy to feel disconnected from the true intensity of these storms
While its annoying for people to have their flights cancelled its far better than having a plane slide of the runway into the sea or worse.
The issue is as the construction standards in HK now mean everyone lives in a reinforced concrete bunker and its very easy to feel disconnected from the true intensity of these storms
While its annoying for people to have their flights cancelled its far better than having a plane slide of the runway into the sea or worse.
It would be very dangerous to have ground staff out operating heavy equipment on an airfield.
Aug 23, 2017, 8:37 pm
#101
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And airports are full of loading equipment, trucks, and things that swing in and out. Plus things that fly.
I guess christep grew on up on the French Lieutenant's Woman coastline, but to me Hato was a one in a 5-10 year event...
Aug 23, 2017, 9:59 pm
#102
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CX548 on Saturday got switched to 77G from 77H, but today and tomorrow's 548/549 are still on 77H. Do you guys think it's Hato Related? I'm sure flight ops is pretty complex, but between today and tomorrow, I would have expected all 77Hs would have made it back to HKG by Saturday morning to do the flight.
MPO is only offering to convert my RT redemption to OW, and will only return 20K miles and if I don't agree, they cannot reissue my ticket, holding my trip hostage.
MPO is only offering to convert my RT redemption to OW, and will only return 20K miles and if I don't agree, they cannot reissue my ticket, holding my trip hostage.
Aug 23, 2017, 10:12 pm
#103
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CX548 on Saturday got switched to 77G from 77H, but today and tomorrow's 548/549 are still on 77H. Do you guys think it's Hato Related? I'm sure flight ops is pretty complex, but between today and tomorrow, I would have expected all 77Hs would have made it back to HKG by Saturday morning to do the flight.
MPO is only offering to convert my RT redemption to OW, and will only return 20K miles and if I don't agree, they cannot reissue my ticket, holding my trip hostage.
MPO is only offering to convert my RT redemption to OW, and will only return 20K miles and if I don't agree, they cannot reissue my ticket, holding my trip hostage.
Aug 23, 2017, 10:17 pm
#104
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I initially thought they need a higher capacity a/c to ferry stranded passengers from yesterday's cancellation but if today and tomorrow's 548 is still on 77H, then how is Saturday different.
Could it be because of crewing? Running out of crew perhaps?