Jul 17, 2017, 12:11 am
Last edit by: sxc
Routes included in upgrade bid trial: Adelaide, Amsterdam, Bangkok, Brisbane, Cebu, Chiang Mai, Chicago, Colombo, Denpasar (Bali), Dubai, Kathmandu, Rome and Seoul
https://upgrade.cathaypacific.com/offer/CathayPacific
2014 Enhance discussion thread: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/cathay-pacific-marco-polo-club/1584763-cx-upgrade-bidding-discussion-experiences.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/cathay-pacific-marco-polo-club/1819458-upgrade-bidding-coming-back.html
https://upgrade.cathaypacific.com/offer/CathayPacific
2014 Enhance discussion thread: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/cathay-pacific-marco-polo-club/1584763-cx-upgrade-bidding-discussion-experiences.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/cathay-pacific-marco-polo-club/1819458-upgrade-bidding-coming-back.html
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Sep 1, 2017, 3:39 pm
#76
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: SYD | HGH
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Sep 1, 2017, 5:51 pm
#77
Join Date: Sep 2017
Programs: Alaska MVPG, Marriott Gold, Hilton Gold
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I am flying early next week on CX 885 (LAX-HKG) in premium economy (E class). So far no email or offer when logging into my reservation. It didn't look like to me when reading the rules that E class was excluded from the upgrade bid program. I realize that the E fare is excluded from upgrading using miles. On Expert Flyer the flight looks really light in all premium cabins as well as coach so I was hoping to see if I would receive an offer. I'm the type of customer that would likely bite and pay the extra money for the upgrade.......which I assume they are targeting for extra revenue.
First time commenting on the Flyer Talk forum.........but I have been lurking for some time and have really learned quite a bit!
First time commenting on the Flyer Talk forum.........but I have been lurking for some time and have really learned quite a bit!
Sep 1, 2017, 5:57 pm
#78
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I'm pretty sure I had read somewhere that only W R fare classes were eligible for upgrade and not E but I can't find it in the FAQs anymore.
Edit: this used to be in the T&Cs but I can't find it anymore:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28569086-post7.html
But essentially It looks like CX is deliberately keeping eligibility for bidding fluid.
Edit: this used to be in the T&Cs but I can't find it anymore:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28569086-post7.html
But essentially It looks like CX is deliberately keeping eligibility for bidding fluid.
Sep 1, 2017, 6:26 pm
#79
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: New York
Programs: AA, CX, Hyatt, Marriott
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I would normally think charging half of the price difference between I and paid price would make sense. Since the bidding system doesn't earn pax I status and miles and it is also design for someone who obviously couldn't afford I fare.
Asking for $2000 for one hour in the air regional J seat + snake.... Whoever designed the calculation must be out of their mind.
Asking for $2000 for one hour in the air regional J seat + snake.... Whoever designed the calculation must be out of their mind.
Sep 1, 2017, 6:54 pm
#80
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: JFK 🇺🇸 (mostly); YVR 🇨🇦 (a bit less); HKG 🇭🇰 (even less)
Programs: Marco Polo GR 😂😂; HHonors Gold; Ritz Carlton Gold
Posts: 494
Can't agree more. The NA-HKG W fare is usually USD$2,300 while I is around $6,000. The student discounted fare, which I am not qualified for, for I is around $3,000. I would more than happy to pay more than $4,000 for I fare, but unfortunately that's not "bidable".
Also, if booked in student I fare, do I still earn as if it were a regular I fare ticket? Is there an A fare student price as well?
Last edited by hl176; Sep 1, 2017 at 7:15 pm
Sep 1, 2017, 9:49 pm
#81
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: PVD, BOS
Programs: AA EXP
Posts: 1,664
I'm pretty sure I had read somewhere that only W R fare classes were eligible for upgrade and not E but I can't find it in the FAQs anymore.
Edit: this used to be in the T&Cs but I can't find it anymore:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28569086-post7.html
But essentially It looks like CX is deliberately keeping eligibility for bidding fluid.
Edit: this used to be in the T&Cs but I can't find it anymore:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28569086-post7.html
But essentially It looks like CX is deliberately keeping eligibility for bidding fluid.
Sep 1, 2017, 9:53 pm
#82
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: PVD, BOS
Programs: AA EXP
Posts: 1,664
I am flying early next week on CX 885 (LAX-HKG) in premium economy (E class). So far no email or offer when logging into my reservation. It didn't look like to me when reading the rules that E class was excluded from the upgrade bid program. I realize that the E fare is excluded from upgrading using miles. On Expert Flyer the flight looks really light in all premium cabins as well as coach so I was hoping to see if I would receive an offer. I'm the type of customer that would likely bite and pay the extra money for the upgrade.......which I assume they are targeting for extra revenue.
First time commenting on the Flyer Talk forum.........but I have been lurking for some time and have really learned quite a bit!
First time commenting on the Flyer Talk forum.........but I have been lurking for some time and have really learned quite a bit!
Last edited by swingaling; Oct 16, 2017 at 9:01 am
Oct 16, 2017, 2:44 am
#84
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: RBK
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Posts: 128
Swing - do you recall what your "recommended bid amounts" were? I'm making the same flight next week, and the combined "recommended bid" for all legs, plus my original E tix, would put me at the cost of a biz tix
Oct 16, 2017, 6:46 am
#85
Join Date: Jul 2008
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Another silly example, wife is flying to Beijing, it's a cheap economy ticket (M/H class). Only one way is available for upgrade (the Cathay leg, KA isn't upgradeable, or because its a CX codeshare on KA it doesn't work).
The minimum fare for an upgrade in one direction was about 4000 HKD (low chance), to get up to a top chance it was over 8000 HKD (same price as a return in business outright pretty much..?).
Hopefully they fix the concept else it will be dead in the water as far as I'm concerned. At a minimum they need to give miles/points to the same level as if you paid for the business fare outright.
The minimum fare for an upgrade in one direction was about 4000 HKD (low chance), to get up to a top chance it was over 8000 HKD (same price as a return in business outright pretty much..?).
Hopefully they fix the concept else it will be dead in the water as far as I'm concerned. At a minimum they need to give miles/points to the same level as if you paid for the business fare outright.
Oct 16, 2017, 7:13 am
#86
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Location: Hong Kong
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Another silly example, wife is flying to Beijing, it's a cheap economy ticket (M/H class). Only one way is available for upgrade (the Cathay leg, KA isn't upgradeable, or because its a CX codeshare on KA it doesn't work).
The minimum fare for an upgrade in one direction was about 4000 HKD (low chance), to get up to a top chance it was over 8000 HKD (same price as a return in business outright pretty much..?).
The minimum fare for an upgrade in one direction was about 4000 HKD (low chance), to get up to a top chance it was over 8000 HKD (same price as a return in business outright pretty much..?).
Oct 16, 2017, 8:46 am
#87
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: PVD, BOS
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The recommended amount is a bad joke. Seriously. If someone wanted to pay that much for the upgrade, they would've just purchased a J fare in the first place.
Last edited by swingaling; Oct 16, 2017 at 8:58 am
Oct 17, 2017, 9:47 am
#88
Join Date: Dec 2016
Programs: MP, BR
Posts: 375
Another silly example, wife is flying to Beijing, it's a cheap economy ticket (M/H class). Only one way is available for upgrade (the Cathay leg, KA isn't upgradeable, or because its a CX codeshare on KA it doesn't work).
The minimum fare for an upgrade in one direction was about 4000 HKD (low chance), to get up to a top chance it was over 8000 HKD (same price as a return in business outright pretty much..?).
Hopefully they fix the concept else it will be dead in the water as far as I'm concerned. At a minimum they need to give miles/points to the same level as if you paid for the business fare outright.
The minimum fare for an upgrade in one direction was about 4000 HKD (low chance), to get up to a top chance it was over 8000 HKD (same price as a return in business outright pretty much..?).
Hopefully they fix the concept else it will be dead in the water as far as I'm concerned. At a minimum they need to give miles/points to the same level as if you paid for the business fare outright.
Oct 17, 2017, 11:15 pm
#89
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 189
I am doing HKG->SIN->HKG this weekend and was asked to do a upgrade bid.
HKG-> SIN, EY-> J minimum bid is $4,500 +$70....all the way to $9,000
SIN-> HKG, EY->PEY Minimum bid is $1,200...all the way to $3,000
At this rate, automatic upgrade will be a thing of the past.
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HKG-> SIN, EY-> J minimum bid is $4,500 +$70....all the way to $9,000
SIN-> HKG, EY->PEY Minimum bid is $1,200...all the way to $3,000
At this rate, automatic upgrade will be a thing of the past.
(Audio)
Oct 17, 2017, 11:32 pm
#90
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I am doing HKG->SIN->HKG this weekend and was asked to do a upgrade bid.
HKG-> SIN, EY-> J minimum bid is $4,500 +$70....all the way to $9,000
SIN-> HKG, EY->PEY Minimum bid is $1,200...all the way to $3,000
At this rate, automatic upgrade will be a thing of the past.
(Audio)
HKG-> SIN, EY-> J minimum bid is $4,500 +$70....all the way to $9,000
SIN-> HKG, EY->PEY Minimum bid is $1,200...all the way to $3,000
At this rate, automatic upgrade will be a thing of the past.
(Audio)