Point of being MPC GO
Apr 26, 2017, 9:03 am
#46
Join Date: Jan 2017
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Apr 27, 2017, 4:15 am
#47
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: HKG
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Many anecdotes over the past months, including
Y >> J on award ticket, regional
Y >> PEY >> J on award ticket, regional
and my favorite:
PEY (upgraded to J using miles) >> F (!!), longhaul
May 13, 2017, 10:55 am
#48
Join Date: May 2017
Programs: CX Go
Posts: 30
Allow me to illustrate why it is not what you believe.
Using CX's SFO-HKG PEY E Class - $1879.17 as an example, it will earn 90 CP and 15210K AM with MPC/AM. On the other hand, it will earn 20739 EQM, $2765 EQD and 22122 RDM with AA. For the MPC GO, it will take 7 RT trips to re-qualify. However, for the AA PLT, it will only take 3 RT trips to re-qualify.
MPC does not really have any CX-specific benefits to GO only but not OWS. In that case, there is no value staying with MPC.
Beside - in this example, if that MPC GO really needs to take that 7 RT trips, that MPC GO would have been a AA EXP (OWE) with 4 systemwide upgrades and more RDM.
What's the point staying with MPC then?
Again - not as much as you think.
Short-haul elites will switch to HX if HX can suit their needs. Long-haul elites will switch to other compatible OW program as OWS if possible.
Otherwise, they will be forced to stay and get a credit card with lounge access.
Using CX's SFO-HKG PEY E Class - $1879.17 as an example, it will earn 90 CP and 15210K AM with MPC/AM. On the other hand, it will earn 20739 EQM, $2765 EQD and 22122 RDM with AA. For the MPC GO, it will take 7 RT trips to re-qualify. However, for the AA PLT, it will only take 3 RT trips to re-qualify.
MPC does not really have any CX-specific benefits to GO only but not OWS. In that case, there is no value staying with MPC.
Beside - in this example, if that MPC GO really needs to take that 7 RT trips, that MPC GO would have been a AA EXP (OWE) with 4 systemwide upgrades and more RDM.
What's the point staying with MPC then?
Again - not as much as you think.
Short-haul elites will switch to HX if HX can suit their needs. Long-haul elites will switch to other compatible OW program as OWS if possible.
Otherwise, they will be forced to stay and get a credit card with lounge access.
Pretty new to this, but facing similar dilemma as previously used to qualify for GO via a few long haul PEY HKG-US and a fair volume of discounted short haul in Asia, but will likely not be maintained under the new system.
Recently been travelling more outside Asia though, and the lounge access via OWS has been beneficial, but that could be achieved via AA as noted above. However as this thread also notes, anecdotally GO status brings more upgrades - something I have also observed and value quite a bit as I fly short haul out of HKG frequently.
So if based on above math for OWS retention ease, and switch over to AA PLT from MP GO , does that mean I would not experience the same upgrade frequency on CX ex-HKG short hauls?
And if not, any other advice on how to maintain GO status other than much higher long haul flight frequency or flying full fare long haul on J?
May 13, 2017, 5:28 pm
#49
Join Date: Nov 2006
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It is hopeless on US routes. I am based in SFO and gave up on retaining DM last year. I am now GO. I should be able to retain GO as I do fly J half the time and PEY upgraded to J the other half.
May 15, 2017, 12:50 am
#50
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I dont think its worse than CXSL 
its just not a v high opup ladder to start with
hows ur opup rate there btw?
its just not a v high opup ladder to start withhows ur opup rate there btw?
May 15, 2017, 2:34 am
#52
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May 16, 2017, 12:40 am
#53
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This is my method, anyway. I get around 300 points a year between these two trips and balance 300 I have to make up on CX flying PEY mainly. Each PEY trip to USA is worth 100 points RT so if I make 2 of those then I'm up to 500. Balance 100 points have to get a bit creative...
But it's worth it as I get op-up from PEY to J quite regularly on those USA flights as I usually travel at peak time when flights are full.
May 16, 2017, 12:58 am
#54
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As I've said other places....PEY seems to be the killer sweet spot for op-ups. If you're buying cash PEY fares, GO membership should be quite useful here. You have low #s of Diamond competitors in that cabin, and you're ahead of OWE. The fact there are fewer seats in PEY than J on all configs mean CX will often vastly oversell Y with the intention to overfill PEY, sometimes by a big number. Which Cascades to J.
May 16, 2017, 1:06 am
#55
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Not true. CX can suspend this benefit for operational reason.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/catha...guarantee.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/catha...guarantee.html
May 16, 2017, 1:55 am
#56
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barring from politicians blocking out the cabin, i dont think cx would pull it.
May 16, 2017, 2:19 am
#57
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As I've said other places....PEY seems to be the killer sweet spot for op-ups. If you're buying cash PEY fares, GO membership should be quite useful here. You have low #s of Diamond competitors in that cabin, and you're ahead of OWE. The fact there are fewer seats in PEY than J on all configs mean CX will often vastly oversell Y with the intention to overfill PEY, sometimes by a big number. Which Cascades to J.
For example, I'm travelling ORD-HKG in about a week, and when I see loads like:
F4 A4 J8 C8 D7 I7 W1 R0 E0 Y3 B1 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0
F5 A2 J7 C6 D2 I0 W1 R0 E0 Y0 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0
F4 A4 J9 C8 D7 I7 W3 R3 E2 Y0 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0
on flights, to me that's more or less a 100% guarantee that I'll pay for PEY but I'll fly in J.
Actually on such flights (I've seen on previous trips from ORD-HKG), even GR and random AM members are getting upgrades at times...
May 17, 2017, 2:05 pm
#58
Join Date: May 2017
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Flying QR to Europe will net you 200+ points roundtrip in J and flying MH via KUL shorthaul J to other Asian destinations will net you 100 points roundtrip. Both are usually priced quite reasonably. QR flights are very comfortable, MH flights service is good but hard product lacking.
This is my method, anyway. I get around 300 points a year between these two trips and balance 300 I have to make up on CX flying PEY mainly. Each PEY trip to USA is worth 100 points RT so if I make 2 of those then I'm up to 500. Balance 100 points have to get a bit creative...
But it's worth it as I get op-up from PEY to J quite regularly on those USA flights as I usually travel at peak time when flights are full.
This is my method, anyway. I get around 300 points a year between these two trips and balance 300 I have to make up on CX flying PEY mainly. Each PEY trip to USA is worth 100 points RT so if I make 2 of those then I'm up to 500. Balance 100 points have to get a bit creative...
But it's worth it as I get op-up from PEY to J quite regularly on those USA flights as I usually travel at peak time when flights are full.
Sep 25, 2017, 8:09 pm
#59
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One nice perk of being GO - they automatically blocked the seat next to me on OLCI on a 3-3-3 SIN-HKG flight on Y.
I just made GO last week and was wondering why my friend was unable to get the middle seat to sit next to me!
I just made GO last week and was wondering why my friend was unable to get the middle seat to sit next to me!
Sep 25, 2017, 10:04 pm
#60
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I have seen this happen to me as well (seat auto blocked) but then when it comes to boarding there's often someone sitting there. Even when there are other empty seats, and the person in the middle isn't travelling with the person on the other side. Very annoying.