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Old Mar 12, 2017, 8:00 pm
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Trial flights:
May 1 to May 31 - CX343/344 (HKG-LGW)
June 1 to June 30 - CX806/CX807 (HKG-ORD)

Media coverage:
http://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/economy/article/2078183/cathay-pacific-trial-demand-catering-long-haul-flights
https://www.ausbt.com.au/cathay-pacific-to-trial-dine-on-demand-meals-in-business-class
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Old Oct 17, 2017, 4:42 am
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Originally Posted by G-CIVC
Just a quick update for everyone, this project has been temporarily shelved and the equipment has been returned. I don't know a lot of details...
This, actually, is a pleasant surprise

Wouldn't really like to see the service level going downhill further...
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Old Oct 17, 2017, 4:48 am
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Great news. CX simply isn't staffed out for it.
Shouldn't encourage gluttony anyway

Now, when will Enhance 2.0 https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/cath...grade-bid.html join DoD on the shelf?
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Old Oct 17, 2017, 5:06 am
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Hopefully they just focus on improved food instead. Not sure why this is so hard.
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Old Oct 18, 2017, 1:37 am
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Hm, followed this thread from the beginning and now it's over before I got a chance to try

Originally Posted by sxc
Hopefully they just focus on improved food instead. Not sure why this is so hard.
+1

(But would be really interested to learn why)
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Old Oct 18, 2017, 1:46 am
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Originally Posted by gpia
Hm, followed this thread from the beginning and now it's over before I got a chance to try



+1

(But would be really interested to learn why)
Cos the have to pay extra for better food but not for staff to do DoD in lieu of traditional meal service?
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Old Oct 18, 2017, 1:47 am
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In October's "The Journey", this question is posed by staff. It says they are pressing ahead with a soft launch of the Business Class offering:

I HAVE FRIENDS in Hong Kong who
either travel in Economy or Business Class
with us and their most common complaint
is the food. May I suggest that we allow
passengers in Business Class to choose
the food they would like to have on board?
In Economy this would not work, but how
about making more choices available?
From Johnny Loo,
B777 Simulator Instructor

Vivian Lo,
GM Customer Experience & Design:
Thanks for your question. Our food
proposition is something that is being
widely discussed at the moment, in
particular on our Business Class service.
A more premium and flexible dining trial
took place a few months ago which
allowed Business Class customers to
choose from a bigger menu with more
variety of food and at a time when it suits
them to eat. We were encouraged by the
generally very positive feedback received
from customers and are now working on
an implementation plan to commence
with a soft launch across the network.
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Old Oct 18, 2017, 2:09 am
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This respondent is not in ISD, and we probably know how 'well' departments talk to each other at CX

Sure, there's been some 'soft' implementations - the burgers have fries now, and Sauternes replaced port. Etc.

I have heard that the FA union and ISD were unable to come to a solution/compromise on the crewing issue, and that is the major reason why this is stalling, in addition to concerns of cost savings unable to be realized on long day flights.
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Old Oct 19, 2017, 2:10 am
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Originally Posted by G-CIVC
This respondent is not in ISD, and we probably know how 'well' departments talk to each other at CX

Sure, there's been some 'soft' implementations - the burgers have fries now, and Sauternes replaced port. Etc.

I have heard that the FA union and ISD were unable to come to a solution/compromise on the crewing issue, and that is the major reason why this is stalling, in addition to concerns of cost savings unable to be realized on long day flights.
I heard that they intend to roll out a more simplified menu in order to avoid adding extra manpower....
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Old Nov 19, 2017, 7:29 am
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This week’s badly written SCMP article about CX talks about mattress pads on the “Gatwick to Chicago” route and dine on demand.

Mattresses and dining on demand: Cathay ups business class perks
https://sc.mp/2ivbM5z
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Old Nov 19, 2017, 9:13 pm
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Originally Posted by sxc
This week’s badly written SCMP article about CX talks about mattress pads on the “Gatwick to Chicago” route and dine on demand.

Mattresses and dining on demand: Cathay ups business class perks
https://sc.mp/2ivbM5z
It's actually very appropriate to talk about DoD and mattress pads in the same thread, because mattress pads means turndown service. You can't do turndown service when the FAs feel like doing it. It has to be done when each passenger wants it. So it's just like DoD; it won't work on CX because that kind of service culture doesn't exist among CX FAs.
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Old Nov 20, 2017, 1:11 pm
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Makeshift helps

I once used a camping inflatable as mattress pad.
Got attention, though to slippery and somewhat cumbersome to transport in the carry-on bag.
Since then, I use a second doubled duvet as a mattress pad. Works somewhat.

A real mattress pad would be great, though.

DoD: Hmmmm, for me personally, better have a speedy meal serving with less frills.
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