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Old Jan 1, 2017, 7:55 am
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Continued from 2016 discussion: 2016 Credit Card Earning discussion
Churning and Welcome Offers: Credit Card Asiamiles Churning and Welcome Offers discussion (HK) - continuously upda

For time required to transfer miles from banks, please see here.
On-going offers

Beginner's recommendation (rates quoted before other short term promotions):
(Just one for now) BEA Flyer World Master - 1 mile per $5 for local purchases / overseas purchases; 1 mile per $8 for Octopus AAVS / Bill Payment (Excluding the following categories: Education, Insurance and Tax) (no fee)

Credit Cards that are by Invitation Only or Applied in lieu with an Account:

1. WLB Luxe Visa Infinite - 1 mile per $2.4 for overseas airline / travel / hotel / dining; $4/mile on local airline / travel / hotel / dining ($50/5,000 miles min $50 max $500) (Need to be Wing Lung Private Banking customers)
2. BoC Wealth Management Visa Infinite - 1 mile per $15 for local / overseas / octopus AAVS / bill payment, 1 mile per $5 for overseas spending / local dining, 1 mile per $2.5 for overseas spending / local dining if that month's accumulated spending is over $15000 ($50/5,000 miles min $100 max $300) (Need to be BoC Wealth Management (中銀理財) customer)
3. HSBC Premier World Master for 6X (select one category only below, 1 mile per $4.16. Under this promotion, cap at $100,000), and all other seasonal promotions. ($300 fee for a year's worth of redemption) [to 31 Dec 2017] (Need to be HSBC Premier customer)
4. BoC Enrich World MC - 1 mile per $15 for local / overseas / octopus AAVS / bill payment, 1 mile per $3 for dining/dept store if that month's accumulated spending is over $15000 ($50/5,000 miles min $100 max $300) (Need to be BoC Enrich (智盈理財) customer)
5. HSBC Advance Platinum Visa for 6X (select one category only below, 1 mile per $4.16. Under this promotion, cap at $100,000), and all other seasonal promotions. ($300 fee for a year's worth of redemption) [to 31 Dec 2017] (Need to be HSBC Advance customer)
5. Citibank Ultima card - 1 mile per $4 for local / overseas / octopus (no redemption fee, $23,800 non-waivable annual fee) (Need to be Citigold Private Client customer AND by Invitation only)
6. SCB Priority Banking Visa Infinite - $7.5 per mile for local spending ($15 per mile for Insurance Spending (NOT BILL PAYMENT)) and Octopus, $5 per mile overseas spending ($300 flat redemption fee) (Need to be SCB Priority Banking customer) Note 2
7. BEA Supreme Gold World Master - 1 mile per $5 for local /overseas / Octopus / Bill Payment (Excluding the following categories: Education, Insurance and Tax) (no fee) (Need to be BEA Supreme Gold (顯卓理財) customer) Note 3
8. Shacom World Master - 1 mile per $8 local purchases / overseas / octopus ($10 per 1,000AM min $100 max $500) (Need to be Shacom SMART Banking (慧通理財) customer)
9. CCB HK Visa Infinite - 1 mile per $8 spent for Local Spending / Overseas Spending / Octopus / Bill payment ($50 per 5,000 miles AM min $100) (Need to be CCB Premier Banking (貴賓理財) / Premier Select (貴賓晉裕) customer)

Full list:

I. Overseas
1. BOC Travel Rewards Visa Signature Card - 8% rebate for each transaction >$500 overseas spending (max $500 per month) (requirement: 1. overseas transaction for that month (any amount per transaction) > $6,000; 2. three times local spending (any amount)) plus 1 mile per $15
2. BoC Wealth Management Visa Infinite - 1 mile per $2.5 for overseas spending / local dining if that month's accumulated spending is over $15000 ($50/5,000 miles min $100 max $300) (Need to be BoC Wealth Management (中銀理財) customer)
3. [to 31 Dec 2018] HSBC (excluding amounts billed in HK and PRC) - 1 mile / $2.78 (HSBC Visa Signature) / $4.16 (other HSBC Credit Cards INCLUDING HSBC Premier World Master) spent (select Overseas Spending category ONLY) / $6.25 (HSBC Visa Signature) spent (NOT select Overseas Spending category) ($300 fee for a year's worth of redemptions)** ++
4. (if ONLINE / PAYWAVE) CCB HK eye Card - 1 mile / $2.14 (inclusive of 5X online bonus, cap at $50,000 per calender year and (2X extra overseas bonus, cap at $75000 per membership year ) ($50 per 5,000 miles min $100)
5. Citibank Premiermiles (>=$20K per billing cycle) (excluding RMB and MOP) - 1 mile per $3 spent (no redemption fee)** ++ ^
6. [to 31 Dec 2017] DBS Eminent (excluding MOP) - 1 mile per $3.6 spent ($50 fee per 5,000 miles)
7. [to 28 Feb 2018] Fubon Platinum / Titanium - 1 mile per $3.75 spent ($50/5,000AM min $250 max $500) (plus 133 Sure win miles if txn amt >$600)
Note: 1 mile per $0.75 for TWD spendings in Taiwan (max $5,000/month and $10,000/year), and 1 mile per $1.875 for KRW and JPY spendings in Korea and Japan (Seperate registration needed, max $20,000/month, two months per calendar year max)^
8. Amex Plat Charge - 1 mile per $3.75 spent (first $160,000 spending, $5/mile thereafter, $200 flat redemption fee)
9. Citibank Prestige / Premiermiles (<$20K) (excluding RMB and MOP) - 1 mile per $4 spent (no redemption fee, $2,500 non-waivable annual fee for the Prestige)** ++ ^
10. DBS Black World Master (excluding MOP) - 1 mile per $4 spent overseas (no fee)^
11. SCB Asia Miles World Master - 1 mile per $4 spent (automatic conversion)
12. Amex CX Elite - 1 mile per $4 spent (automatic conversion)
13. BEA Flyer World Master / Supreme Gold World Master - 1 mile per $5 (no fee)^
14. CCB HK Platinum Visa / Platinum Master - 1 mile per $5 ($50 per 5,000 miles min $100)
15. SCB Priority Banking Visa Infinite - 1 mile per $5 spent ($300 flat fee redemption)**

^: DO NOT Award points for DCC Transactions

II. Supermarket, dept store, Telecommunications bills on autopay:
1A . [to 31 Dec 2018] HSBC - 1 mile / $2.78 (HSBC Visa Signature)/$4.16 (other HSBC Credit Cards INCLUDING HSBC Premier World Master) spent# (select Home Spending category ONLY) ($300 fee for a year's worth of redemptions)** ++
1B. [to 31 Dec 2018] HSBC - 1 mile / $2.78 (HSBC Visa Signature)/$4.16 (other HSBC Credit Cards INCLUDING HSBC Premier World Master) spent# (select Lifestyle Spending category ONLY) ($300 fee for a year's worth of redemptions)** ++
1C. [to 31 Dec 2018] HSBC - 1 mile / $2.78 (HSBC Visa Signature)/$4.16 (other HSBC Credit Cards INCLUDING HSBC Premier World Master) spent# (select Entertainment Spending category ONLY) ($300 fee for a year's worth of redemptions)** ++
2. Citibank Rewards - 1 mile / $3 spent ($50 fee per 5,000 mile redeemed) (on first $12,500 spending per statement month) Note 2** ++
3. (if ONLINE / PAYWAVE) CCB HK eye Card - 1 mile / $3 (inclusive of 5X online bonus, cap at $75000 per calender year ($50 per 5,000 miles AM min $100)

III. Dining
1. [to 31 Dec 2018] HSBC - 1 mile / $2.78 (HSBC Visa Signature) / $4.16 (other HSBC Credit Cards INCLUDING HSBC Premier World Master) spent# (select Dining Spending category ONLY) ($300 fee for a year's worth of redemptions)** ++
1b. [to 31 Dec 2017] HSBC (non-Visa Signature, INCLUDING HSBC Premier World Master) (select Dining category) - 1 mile / $4.16 ($300 fee for a year's worth of redemptions)** ++
1c. [to 31 Dec 2017] HSBC Visa Signature (did not select Dining category) - 1 mile / $6.25 ($300 fee for a year's worth of redemptions) ** ++
2. SCB Asia Miles World Master - 1 mile per $4 spent (automatic conversion)
3. BEA Flyer World Master - 1 mile / $5 (no fee)
Note: Restaurants in hotels sometimes are regarded as "Hotel" under V/M classification and thus ineligible for any dining promotions, using CUP can usually (but not always) get around this problem

IV. Travel agents:
** ++1. [to 31 Dec 2018] HSBC - 1 mile / $2.78 (HSBC Visa Signature) / $4.16 (other HSBC Credit Cards INCLUDING HSBC Premier World Master) spent# (select LifeStyle Spending category ONLY)/ $6.25 (HSBC Visa Signature NOT selecting LifeStyle Spending category)($300 fee for a year's worth of redemptions)
2. CCB HK EYE (if online) - 1 mile per $2.14 spent (First $50,000 only) ($50 per 5,000 miles AM min $100)
3. Amex Plat Charge - 1 mile per $3.75 spent (first $160,000 spending, $5/mile thereafter, $200 flat redemption fee)

V. Other retail spending
1. [to 14 Mar 18] (if online) CCB HK Premier Banking Visa Infinite - 1 mile per $2.67 spent ($50 per 5,000 miles AM min $100) (first $12.5K spending ONLINE per month only, else $8 per mile)
2. CCB HK eye Card - 1 mile per $3 ($50 per 5,000 miles AM min $100) (ONLINE or PAYWAVE Spending ONLY, else $15 per mile)
3. (if online) SCB Asia Miles World Master - 1 mile per $4 spent (automatic conversion) (ONLINE spending ONLY, else $6 per mile)
4. BEA Flyer World Master / BEA Supreme Gold World Master - 1 mile per $5 spent (no fee) Note 3
** 5. SCB WorldMiles AE - 1 mile per $6 spent ($300 flat redemption fee)
** ++ 6. Citibank Prestige - 1 mile per $6 spent (no redemption fee, $2,500 non-waiveable annual fee)
7. Amex CX Elite - 1 mile per $6 spent (automatic conversion)
8. DBS Black World Master - 1 mile per $6 spent (no fee)
9. [to 31 Dec 2017] DBS Eminent - 1 mile per $7.2 spent ($50 fee per 5,000 miles)
10. [to 28 Feb 2018] Fubon Platinum / Titanium - 1 mile per $7.5 spent spending >=$300 on Saturdays and Sundays ($50/5,000AM min $250 max $500) (plus 133 Sure win miles if txn amt >$600 (if NOT ONLINE))
** 11. SCB Priority Banking Visa Infinite - 1 mile per $7.5 spent ($300 flat redemption fee)
** ++ 12. Amex (Gold grade and higher) - 1 mile per $7.5 spent (to $160,000), $200 flat redemption fee). (1 mile per $3 spent for 5x shops and 1 mile per $1.5 spent for 10x shops)
** ++ 13. Citibank Premiermiles - 1 mile per $8 spent (no fee)
13. Shacom World Master / Platinum / Titanium / Diamond UnionPay - 1 mile per $8 spent ($10 per 1,000AM min $100 max $500)

VI. Bill payments (Excluding Tax or any payment to IRD)
VI A. General Bill Payments (EXCLUDING Insurance and Education)
1. BEA Flyer World Master / BEA Supreme Gold World Master - 1 mile per $8 spent on bill payment (Excluding the following categories: Education, Insurance) (no fee) Note 3
2. CCB HK Visa Infinite - 1 mile per $8 spent ($50 per 5,000 miles AM min $100)
3. CCB HK Platinum Visa / CCB HK Platinum Master / CCB HK Platinum Dual Currency UnionPay - 1 mile per $15 spent (Each Card Membership Year cap at 12 times of credit limit)
4. BoC Wealth Management Visa Infinite/BoC Platinum Visa/BoC Dual Currency Unionpay - 1 mile per $15 spent (Each Card cap at $10,000 per Month) ($50/5,000 miles min $100)
5. [to 31 Dec 2017] HSBC Platinum Visa / Advance Platinum Visa / Premier World Master / Visa Signature / Green Card - 1 mile per $25 spent
VI B. Education Bill Payments
1. CCB HK Visa Infinite - 1 mile per $8 spent ($50 per 5,000 miles AM min $100)
2. CCB HK Platinum Visa / CCB HK Platinum Master / CCB HK Platinum Dual Currency UnionPay - 1 mile per $15 spent (Each Card Membership Year cap at 12 times of credit limit)
3. BoC Wealth Management Visa Infinite/BoC Platinum Visa/BoC Dual Currency Unionpay - 1 mile per $15 spent (Each Card cap at $10,000 per Month) ($50/5,000 miles min $100)
4. [to 31 Dec 2017] HSBC Platinum Visa / Advance Platinum Visa / Premier World Master / Visa Signature / Green Card - 1 mile per $25 spent
VI C. Insurance Bill Payments
1. CCB HK Visa Infinite - 1 mile per $8 spent ($50 per 5,000 miles AM min $100)
2. CCB HK Platinum Visa / CCB HK Platinum Master / CCB HK Platinum Dual Currency UnionPay - 1 mile per $15 spent (Each Card Membership Year cap at 12 times of credit limit)
3. BoC Wealth Management Visa Infinite / BoC Platinum Visa & Master / BoC Platinum Dual Currency Unionpay - 1 mile per $15 spent (Each Card cap at $10,000 per Month) ($50/5,000 miles min $100)
4. HSBC Platinum Visa / Advance Platinum Visa / Premier World Master / Visa Signature / Green Card - 1 mile per $25 spent
VI D. Specific bill payment merchants who accept autopay for higher earn rates (by merchant)
1. Towngas autopay - Citi Prestige $6/mile
2. CLP autopay - Citi Prestige $6/mile, BEA $5/AM
3. HKE - DBS Black $6/AM

Note 1: Other issuers in Hong Kong DO NOT award bonus points for bill payment

VII. Octopus Automatic Add-Value
** ++ 1. Citibank Prestige - 1 mile per $6 spent (no redemption fee, $2,500 non-waiveable annual fee)
2. Bankcomm Diamond Dual Currency Card - 1 mile per HK$6 spent for $500 recharges, 1 mile per HK$12 spent for $250 recharges ($100 flat redemption fee)
3. SCB Asia Miles World Master - 1 mile per $6 spent (automatic conversion)
** 4. SCB Priority Banking Visa Infinite - 1 mile per $7.5 spent ($300 flat redemption fee)
5. BEA Flyer World Master / BEA Supreme Gold World Master - 1 mile per $8 spent (no fee) Note 3
6. CCB HK Visa Infinite - 1 mile per $8 spent ($50 per 5,000 miles AM min $100)
** ++ 7. Citibank Premiermiles - 1 mile per $8 spent (no fee)
8. Shacom World Master / Platinum / Titanium / Diamond UnionPay - 1 mile per $8 spent ($10 per 1,000AM min $100 max $500)

VIII. China Unionpay RMB spending

** ++1. [to 31 Dec 2017] HSBC Dual Currency Unionpay card - 1 mile per RMB4.16 spent (select China Spending category ONLY) ($300 fee for a year's worth of redemptions)
2. Bankcomm Diamond Dual Currency Card - 1 mile per RMB6 spent for restaurants or hotels spending >= RMB300, 1 per RMB12 spent other categories ($100 flat redemption fee)
3. Shacom Diamond UnionPay - 1 mile per $8 spent ($10 per 1,000AM min $100 max $500)
4. BoC Dual Currency Unionpay Card - 1 mile per RMB15 spent ($50/5,000 miles min $100)

IX. Electronic wallets
i. Payme https://forum.hongkongcard.com/forumSE/show/21076?page=108 #1071
ii. Wechat https://www.facebook.com/notes/%E9%87%8C%E6%95%B8%E8%91%97%E6%95%B8%E5%84%B2%E5%B E%97%E5%BF%AB/wechat-%E8%BD%89%E8%B3%AC-step-by-step/1793364737574888
iii. Alipay P2P https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/cathay-pacific-marco-polo-club/1812080-credit-card-asia-miles-earning-opportunities-hk-2017-a-77.html#post28934293

Note 2:
** can opt for Krisflyer miles in lieu
++ can opt for BAEC AVIOS in lieu
For HSBC, ONLY Premier World Master holders are able to opt for BAEC Avios and KrisFlyer Miles

Note 3:
BEA Supreme Gold World Master cardholders need to register in advance for the "BEA Mileage Reward" scheme during application (Supreme Gold account opening), or else pay $1800 penalty to register thereafter.

HK miles/hotel points earning ability
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Old Jul 8, 2017, 4:53 am
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Originally Posted by hubestar
Could someone post a link of the trade forum? I went on hongkongcard.com, and cannot find it... I am neither a buyer or seller, but interested in monitoring prices especially for AM. Thanks!
https://forum.hongkongcard.com/forumSE/4-25
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Old Jul 8, 2017, 9:06 am
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Does anyone know how long it takes to transfer miles to Asiamiles? I just registered my Asiamiles account with HSBC and transferred some miles as I need to redeem my tickets urgently. Alternatively, is it worthwhile to pay US$60 for 2000 miles?
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Old Jul 8, 2017, 10:05 am
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Originally Posted by bmtsang
Does anyone know how long it takes to transfer miles to Asiamiles? I just registered my Asiamiles account with HSBC and transferred some miles as I need to redeem my tickets urgently. Alternatively, is it worthwhile to pay US$60 for 2000 miles?
From "For time required to transfer miles from banks" post in Wiki.

Originally Posted by percysmith
(update 25 Nov 13) HSBC: enrolment applied Fri 15 Nov, enrolment successful Sat 16 Nov (next day)
[minor mistake with the first transfer]
Subsequent transfer: online submitted Fri 22 Nov, activity date Fri 22 Nov, credited Mon 25 Nov (every Monday)
I have a more recent data point - a friend transferred on Wed 31 May 17 from HSBC and credited in AM and it credited before 9 Jun (I can't exactly remember which date, he advised me by phone)

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Old Jul 8, 2017, 2:11 pm
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Thanks Percy, interesting that the price is quite public and consistent for Mannings, Wing On, etc. But the price for Asia Miles is 'private'. Do you know the current price?
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Old Jul 8, 2017, 6:25 pm
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Originally Posted by hubestar
Thanks Percy, interesting that the price is quite public and consistent for Mannings, Wing On, etc. But the price for Asia Miles is 'private'. Do you know the current price?
I'll send you some price observations in private.

I think it's much harder for traders to sell miles cos AM's been going on an audit jihad in the beginning of this year

https://forum.hongkongcard.com/forum.../18044?page=11
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/cath...iles-loss.html

New account redeeming for others is immediately suspect.
I'm not even willing to risk anyone going onto my redemption list if I can help it.
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Old Jul 8, 2017, 7:19 pm
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Originally Posted by percysmith
From "For time required to transfer miles from banks" post in Wiki.



I have a more recent data point - a friend transferred on Wed 31 May 17 from HSBC and credited in AM and it credited before 9 Jun (I can't exactly remember which date, he advised me by phone)
Thanks Percy. I just called HSBC and they confirmed the account was activated after 2 days however it will take them 4-6 weeks to transfer the miles. In fact, HSBC still has not deducted the miles from my credit card
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Old Jul 8, 2017, 7:44 pm
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4-6 weeks is archetypal exemplar of how HK banks will protect themselves over telling the truth. I never seen any redemption take more than 8 days.
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Old Jul 8, 2017, 9:06 pm
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Thanks that good to know as I want to redeem OW multi-carrier award and only missing less than 250 miles
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Old Jul 9, 2017, 12:06 am
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Thanks Percy, and wow!
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Old Jul 9, 2017, 9:28 pm
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Originally Posted by calf613
Don't think I saw this posted here, wasn't sure if others were aware so thought would post:

Registration required:
https://www.sc.com/hk/campaign/wow-summer-2017/

Two Phases:
7/1-7/31
8/1-8/31

Cashback on local dining / online (foreign or local) transactions per phase:
3% (Below HK$5K of accumulated eligible spend, max of HK$75)
7% (HK$5K-9,999, max of HK$150)
15% (HK$10K+, max of HK$500)

Note that accumulated eligible spend is NOT limited to dining/online, but excludes autopay, bill payments, and AAVS.

If playing with only dining/online transactions on the SCB AM card (which I suspect most people would), cashback ranges from 1.5% to 5% on total spend (excluding regular AM earn). Not something where I plan on hitting specific targets, but I registered since just an additional bonus for me (I use SCB AM card for dining on ongoing basis).
The promo is quite useless. To maximize the benefits one should spend no more than $2500 (and purely on dining and online transactions) for each period. The benefits "ratio" diminishes once you spend more than $2500.
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Old Jul 9, 2017, 9:56 pm
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They've been deluding themselves that they can delude cardholders for 7 years https://forum.hongkongcard.com/forumSE/show/3904

Their only shred of defence before being branded outright false advertising is "we assume you will use your card for non-rebated transactions as well). Assuming like the rest of us that you don't:

3% rebate: max $2,500 spend
$5,000 spend: 3%
$10,000 spend: 5%

I just plan to go online and buy you-know-what for $10K and then do nothing else with SCB. I don't even use SCB AM for dining or online anymore.
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Old Jul 10, 2017, 8:51 am
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I found HSBC VS dining is way better than SCB AM
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Old Jul 10, 2017, 9:05 am
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Originally Posted by percysmith
They've been deluding themselves that they can delude cardholders for 7 years https://forum.hongkongcard.com/forumSE/show/3904

Their only shred of defence before being branded outright false advertising is "we assume you will use your card for non-rebated transactions as well). Assuming like the rest of us that you don't:

3% rebate: max $2,500 spend
$5,000 spend: 3%
$10,000 spend: 5%

I just plan to go online and buy you-know-what for $10K and then do nothing else with SCB. I don't even use SCB AM for dining or online anymore.
percy, what do you use now for dining? I was thinking of switching HSBC VS to dining next year since that is where I spend most regularly, but there is still half a year to go...
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Old Jul 10, 2017, 9:27 am
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I'm not percy, but I quite happily take the 3.6% back on HSBC VS dining.
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Old Jul 10, 2017, 9:31 am
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Well obviously I'm on 939 Tiramisu and Tastie now for next five weeks

After that I'm back on BEA VS 2.4% coupon

My hsbc is set to home cos I can trade it
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