Jan 1, 2017, 7:55 am
Last edit by: percysmith
Continued from 2016 discussion: 2016 Credit Card Earning discussion
Churning and Welcome Offers: Credit Card Asiamiles Churning and Welcome Offers discussion (HK) - continuously upda
For time required to transfer miles from banks, please see here.
On-going offers
Beginner's recommendation (rates quoted before other short term promotions):
(Just one for now) BEA Flyer World Master - 1 mile per $5 for local purchases / overseas purchases; 1 mile per $8 for Octopus AAVS / Bill Payment (Excluding the following categories: Education, Insurance and Tax) (no fee)
Credit Cards that are by Invitation Only or Applied in lieu with an Account:
1. WLB Luxe Visa Infinite - 1 mile per $2.4 for overseas airline / travel / hotel / dining; $4/mile on local airline / travel / hotel / dining ($50/5,000 miles min $50 max $500) (Need to be Wing Lung Private Banking customers)
2. BoC Wealth Management Visa Infinite - 1 mile per $15 for local / overseas / octopus AAVS / bill payment, 1 mile per $5 for overseas spending / local dining, 1 mile per $2.5 for overseas spending / local dining if that month's accumulated spending is over $15000 ($50/5,000 miles min $100 max $300) (Need to be BoC Wealth Management (中銀理財) customer)
3. HSBC Premier World Master for 6X (select one category only below, 1 mile per $4.16. Under this promotion, cap at $100,000), and all other seasonal promotions. ($300 fee for a year's worth of redemption) [to 31 Dec 2017] (Need to be HSBC Premier customer)
4. BoC Enrich World MC - 1 mile per $15 for local / overseas / octopus AAVS / bill payment, 1 mile per $3 for dining/dept store if that month's accumulated spending is over $15000 ($50/5,000 miles min $100 max $300) (Need to be BoC Enrich (智盈理財) customer)
5. HSBC Advance Platinum Visa for 6X (select one category only below, 1 mile per $4.16. Under this promotion, cap at $100,000), and all other seasonal promotions. ($300 fee for a year's worth of redemption) [to 31 Dec 2017] (Need to be HSBC Advance customer)
5. Citibank Ultima card - 1 mile per $4 for local / overseas / octopus (no redemption fee, $23,800 non-waivable annual fee) (Need to be Citigold Private Client customer AND by Invitation only)
6. SCB Priority Banking Visa Infinite - $7.5 per mile for local spending ($15 per mile for Insurance Spending (NOT BILL PAYMENT)) and Octopus, $5 per mile overseas spending ($300 flat redemption fee) (Need to be SCB Priority Banking customer) Note 2
7. BEA Supreme Gold World Master - 1 mile per $5 for local /overseas / Octopus / Bill Payment (Excluding the following categories: Education, Insurance and Tax) (no fee) (Need to be BEA Supreme Gold (顯卓理財) customer) Note 3
8. Shacom World Master - 1 mile per $8 local purchases / overseas / octopus ($10 per 1,000AM min $100 max $500) (Need to be Shacom SMART Banking (慧通理財) customer)
9. CCB HK Visa Infinite - 1 mile per $8 spent for Local Spending / Overseas Spending / Octopus / Bill payment ($50 per 5,000 miles AM min $100) (Need to be CCB Premier Banking (貴賓理財) / Premier Select (貴賓晉裕) customer)
Full list:
I. Overseas
1. BOC Travel Rewards Visa Signature Card - 8% rebate for each transaction >$500 overseas spending (max $500 per month) (requirement: 1. overseas transaction for that month (any amount per transaction) > $6,000; 2. three times local spending (any amount)) plus 1 mile per $15
2. BoC Wealth Management Visa Infinite - 1 mile per $2.5 for overseas spending / local dining if that month's accumulated spending is over $15000 ($50/5,000 miles min $100 max $300) (Need to be BoC Wealth Management (中銀理財) customer)
3. [to 31 Dec 2018] HSBC (excluding amounts billed in HK and PRC) - 1 mile / $2.78 (HSBC Visa Signature) / $4.16 (other HSBC Credit Cards INCLUDING HSBC Premier World Master) spent (select Overseas Spending category ONLY) / $6.25 (HSBC Visa Signature) spent (NOT select Overseas Spending category) ($300 fee for a year's worth of redemptions)** ++
4. (if ONLINE / PAYWAVE) CCB HK eye Card - 1 mile / $2.14 (inclusive of 5X online bonus, cap at $50,000 per calender year and (2X extra overseas bonus, cap at $75000 per membership year ) ($50 per 5,000 miles min $100)
5. Citibank Premiermiles (>=$20K per billing cycle) (excluding RMB and MOP) - 1 mile per $3 spent (no redemption fee)** ++ ^
6. [to 31 Dec 2017] DBS Eminent (excluding MOP) - 1 mile per $3.6 spent ($50 fee per 5,000 miles)
7. [to 28 Feb 2018] Fubon Platinum / Titanium - 1 mile per $3.75 spent ($50/5,000AM min $250 max $500) (plus 133 Sure win miles if txn amt >$600)
Note: 1 mile per $0.75 for TWD spendings in Taiwan (max $5,000/month and $10,000/year), and 1 mile per $1.875 for KRW and JPY spendings in Korea and Japan (Seperate registration needed, max $20,000/month, two months per calendar year max)^
8. Amex Plat Charge - 1 mile per $3.75 spent (first $160,000 spending, $5/mile thereafter, $200 flat redemption fee)
9. Citibank Prestige / Premiermiles (<$20K) (excluding RMB and MOP) - 1 mile per $4 spent (no redemption fee, $2,500 non-waivable annual fee for the Prestige)** ++ ^
10. DBS Black World Master (excluding MOP) - 1 mile per $4 spent overseas (no fee)^
11. SCB Asia Miles World Master - 1 mile per $4 spent (automatic conversion)
12. Amex CX Elite - 1 mile per $4 spent (automatic conversion)
13. BEA Flyer World Master / Supreme Gold World Master - 1 mile per $5 (no fee)^
14. CCB HK Platinum Visa / Platinum Master - 1 mile per $5 ($50 per 5,000 miles min $100)
15. SCB Priority Banking Visa Infinite - 1 mile per $5 spent ($300 flat fee redemption)**
^: DO NOT Award points for DCC Transactions
II. Supermarket, dept store, Telecommunications bills on autopay:
1A . [to 31 Dec 2018] HSBC - 1 mile / $2.78 (HSBC Visa Signature)/$4.16 (other HSBC Credit Cards INCLUDING HSBC Premier World Master) spent# (select Home Spending category ONLY) ($300 fee for a year's worth of redemptions)** ++
1B. [to 31 Dec 2018] HSBC - 1 mile / $2.78 (HSBC Visa Signature)/$4.16 (other HSBC Credit Cards INCLUDING HSBC Premier World Master) spent# (select Lifestyle Spending category ONLY) ($300 fee for a year's worth of redemptions)** ++
1C. [to 31 Dec 2018] HSBC - 1 mile / $2.78 (HSBC Visa Signature)/$4.16 (other HSBC Credit Cards INCLUDING HSBC Premier World Master) spent# (select Entertainment Spending category ONLY) ($300 fee for a year's worth of redemptions)** ++
2. Citibank Rewards - 1 mile / $3 spent ($50 fee per 5,000 mile redeemed) (on first $12,500 spending per statement month) Note 2** ++
3. (if ONLINE / PAYWAVE) CCB HK eye Card - 1 mile / $3 (inclusive of 5X online bonus, cap at $75000 per calender year ($50 per 5,000 miles AM min $100)
III. Dining
1. [to 31 Dec 2018] HSBC - 1 mile / $2.78 (HSBC Visa Signature) / $4.16 (other HSBC Credit Cards INCLUDING HSBC Premier World Master) spent# (select Dining Spending category ONLY) ($300 fee for a year's worth of redemptions)** ++
1b. [to 31 Dec 2017] HSBC (non-Visa Signature, INCLUDING HSBC Premier World Master) (select Dining category) - 1 mile / $4.16 ($300 fee for a year's worth of redemptions)** ++
1c. [to 31 Dec 2017] HSBC Visa Signature (did not select Dining category) - 1 mile / $6.25 ($300 fee for a year's worth of redemptions) ** ++
2. SCB Asia Miles World Master - 1 mile per $4 spent (automatic conversion)
3. BEA Flyer World Master - 1 mile / $5 (no fee)
Note: Restaurants in hotels sometimes are regarded as "Hotel" under V/M classification and thus ineligible for any dining promotions, using CUP can usually (but not always) get around this problem
IV. Travel agents:
** ++1. [to 31 Dec 2018] HSBC - 1 mile / $2.78 (HSBC Visa Signature) / $4.16 (other HSBC Credit Cards INCLUDING HSBC Premier World Master) spent# (select LifeStyle Spending category ONLY)/ $6.25 (HSBC Visa Signature NOT selecting LifeStyle Spending category)($300 fee for a year's worth of redemptions)
2. CCB HK EYE (if online) - 1 mile per $2.14 spent (First $50,000 only) ($50 per 5,000 miles AM min $100)
3. Amex Plat Charge - 1 mile per $3.75 spent (first $160,000 spending, $5/mile thereafter, $200 flat redemption fee)
V. Other retail spending
1. [to 14 Mar 18] (if online) CCB HK Premier Banking Visa Infinite - 1 mile per $2.67 spent ($50 per 5,000 miles AM min $100) (first $12.5K spending ONLINE per month only, else $8 per mile)
2. CCB HK eye Card - 1 mile per $3 ($50 per 5,000 miles AM min $100) (ONLINE or PAYWAVE Spending ONLY, else $15 per mile)
3. (if online) SCB Asia Miles World Master - 1 mile per $4 spent (automatic conversion) (ONLINE spending ONLY, else $6 per mile)
4. BEA Flyer World Master / BEA Supreme Gold World Master - 1 mile per $5 spent (no fee) Note 3
** 5. SCB WorldMiles AE - 1 mile per $6 spent ($300 flat redemption fee)
** ++ 6. Citibank Prestige - 1 mile per $6 spent (no redemption fee, $2,500 non-waiveable annual fee)
7. Amex CX Elite - 1 mile per $6 spent (automatic conversion)
8. DBS Black World Master - 1 mile per $6 spent (no fee)
9. [to 31 Dec 2017] DBS Eminent - 1 mile per $7.2 spent ($50 fee per 5,000 miles)
10. [to 28 Feb 2018] Fubon Platinum / Titanium - 1 mile per $7.5 spent spending >=$300 on Saturdays and Sundays ($50/5,000AM min $250 max $500) (plus 133 Sure win miles if txn amt >$600 (if NOT ONLINE))
** 11. SCB Priority Banking Visa Infinite - 1 mile per $7.5 spent ($300 flat redemption fee)
** ++ 12. Amex (Gold grade and higher) - 1 mile per $7.5 spent (to $160,000), $200 flat redemption fee). (1 mile per $3 spent for 5x shops and 1 mile per $1.5 spent for 10x shops)
** ++ 13. Citibank Premiermiles - 1 mile per $8 spent (no fee)
13. Shacom World Master / Platinum / Titanium / Diamond UnionPay - 1 mile per $8 spent ($10 per 1,000AM min $100 max $500)
VI. Bill payments (Excluding Tax or any payment to IRD)
VI A. General Bill Payments (EXCLUDING Insurance and Education)
1. BEA Flyer World Master / BEA Supreme Gold World Master - 1 mile per $8 spent on bill payment (Excluding the following categories: Education, Insurance) (no fee) Note 3
2. CCB HK Visa Infinite - 1 mile per $8 spent ($50 per 5,000 miles AM min $100)
3. CCB HK Platinum Visa / CCB HK Platinum Master / CCB HK Platinum Dual Currency UnionPay - 1 mile per $15 spent (Each Card Membership Year cap at 12 times of credit limit)
4. BoC Wealth Management Visa Infinite/BoC Platinum Visa/BoC Dual Currency Unionpay - 1 mile per $15 spent (Each Card cap at $10,000 per Month) ($50/5,000 miles min $100)
5. [to 31 Dec 2017] HSBC Platinum Visa / Advance Platinum Visa / Premier World Master / Visa Signature / Green Card - 1 mile per $25 spent
VI B. Education Bill Payments
1. CCB HK Visa Infinite - 1 mile per $8 spent ($50 per 5,000 miles AM min $100)
2. CCB HK Platinum Visa / CCB HK Platinum Master / CCB HK Platinum Dual Currency UnionPay - 1 mile per $15 spent (Each Card Membership Year cap at 12 times of credit limit)
3. BoC Wealth Management Visa Infinite/BoC Platinum Visa/BoC Dual Currency Unionpay - 1 mile per $15 spent (Each Card cap at $10,000 per Month) ($50/5,000 miles min $100)
4. [to 31 Dec 2017] HSBC Platinum Visa / Advance Platinum Visa / Premier World Master / Visa Signature / Green Card - 1 mile per $25 spent
VI C. Insurance Bill Payments
1. CCB HK Visa Infinite - 1 mile per $8 spent ($50 per 5,000 miles AM min $100)
2. CCB HK Platinum Visa / CCB HK Platinum Master / CCB HK Platinum Dual Currency UnionPay - 1 mile per $15 spent (Each Card Membership Year cap at 12 times of credit limit)
3. BoC Wealth Management Visa Infinite / BoC Platinum Visa & Master / BoC Platinum Dual Currency Unionpay - 1 mile per $15 spent (Each Card cap at $10,000 per Month) ($50/5,000 miles min $100)
4. HSBC Platinum Visa / Advance Platinum Visa / Premier World Master / Visa Signature / Green Card - 1 mile per $25 spent
VI D. Specific bill payment merchants who accept autopay for higher earn rates (by merchant)
1. Towngas autopay - Citi Prestige $6/mile
2. CLP autopay - Citi Prestige $6/mile, BEA $5/AM
3. HKE - DBS Black $6/AM
Note 1: Other issuers in Hong Kong DO NOT award bonus points for bill payment
VII. Octopus Automatic Add-Value
** ++ 1. Citibank Prestige - 1 mile per $6 spent (no redemption fee, $2,500 non-waiveable annual fee)
2. Bankcomm Diamond Dual Currency Card - 1 mile per HK$6 spent for $500 recharges, 1 mile per HK$12 spent for $250 recharges ($100 flat redemption fee)
3. SCB Asia Miles World Master - 1 mile per $6 spent (automatic conversion)
** 4. SCB Priority Banking Visa Infinite - 1 mile per $7.5 spent ($300 flat redemption fee)
5. BEA Flyer World Master / BEA Supreme Gold World Master - 1 mile per $8 spent (no fee) Note 3
6. CCB HK Visa Infinite - 1 mile per $8 spent ($50 per 5,000 miles AM min $100)
** ++ 7. Citibank Premiermiles - 1 mile per $8 spent (no fee)
8. Shacom World Master / Platinum / Titanium / Diamond UnionPay - 1 mile per $8 spent ($10 per 1,000AM min $100 max $500)
VIII. China Unionpay RMB spending
** ++1. [to 31 Dec 2017] HSBC Dual Currency Unionpay card - 1 mile per RMB4.16 spent (select China Spending category ONLY) ($300 fee for a year's worth of redemptions)
2. Bankcomm Diamond Dual Currency Card - 1 mile per RMB6 spent for restaurants or hotels spending >= RMB300, 1 per RMB12 spent other categories ($100 flat redemption fee)
3. Shacom Diamond UnionPay - 1 mile per $8 spent ($10 per 1,000AM min $100 max $500)
4. BoC Dual Currency Unionpay Card - 1 mile per RMB15 spent ($50/5,000 miles min $100)
IX. Electronic wallets
i. Payme https://forum.hongkongcard.com/forumSE/show/21076?page=108 #1071
ii. Wechat https://www.facebook.com/notes/%E9%87%8C%E6%95%B8%E8%91%97%E6%95%B8%E5%84%B2%E5%B E%97%E5%BF%AB/wechat-%E8%BD%89%E8%B3%AC-step-by-step/1793364737574888
iii. Alipay P2P https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/cathay-pacific-marco-polo-club/1812080-credit-card-asia-miles-earning-opportunities-hk-2017-a-77.html#post28934293
Note 2:
** can opt for Krisflyer miles in lieu
++ can opt for BAEC AVIOS in lieu
For HSBC, ONLY Premier World Master holders are able to opt for BAEC Avios and KrisFlyer Miles
Note 3:
BEA Supreme Gold World Master cardholders need to register in advance for the "BEA Mileage Reward" scheme during application (Supreme Gold account opening), or else pay $1800 penalty to register thereafter.
HK miles/hotel points earning ability
Refer to here
Churning and Welcome Offers: Credit Card Asiamiles Churning and Welcome Offers discussion (HK) - continuously upda
For time required to transfer miles from banks, please see here.
On-going offers
Beginner's recommendation (rates quoted before other short term promotions):
(Just one for now) BEA Flyer World Master - 1 mile per $5 for local purchases / overseas purchases; 1 mile per $8 for Octopus AAVS / Bill Payment (Excluding the following categories: Education, Insurance and Tax) (no fee)
Credit Cards that are by Invitation Only or Applied in lieu with an Account:
1. WLB Luxe Visa Infinite - 1 mile per $2.4 for overseas airline / travel / hotel / dining; $4/mile on local airline / travel / hotel / dining ($50/5,000 miles min $50 max $500) (Need to be Wing Lung Private Banking customers)
2. BoC Wealth Management Visa Infinite - 1 mile per $15 for local / overseas / octopus AAVS / bill payment, 1 mile per $5 for overseas spending / local dining, 1 mile per $2.5 for overseas spending / local dining if that month's accumulated spending is over $15000 ($50/5,000 miles min $100 max $300) (Need to be BoC Wealth Management (中銀理財) customer)
3. HSBC Premier World Master for 6X (select one category only below, 1 mile per $4.16. Under this promotion, cap at $100,000), and all other seasonal promotions. ($300 fee for a year's worth of redemption) [to 31 Dec 2017] (Need to be HSBC Premier customer)
4. BoC Enrich World MC - 1 mile per $15 for local / overseas / octopus AAVS / bill payment, 1 mile per $3 for dining/dept store if that month's accumulated spending is over $15000 ($50/5,000 miles min $100 max $300) (Need to be BoC Enrich (智盈理財) customer)
5. HSBC Advance Platinum Visa for 6X (select one category only below, 1 mile per $4.16. Under this promotion, cap at $100,000), and all other seasonal promotions. ($300 fee for a year's worth of redemption) [to 31 Dec 2017] (Need to be HSBC Advance customer)
5. Citibank Ultima card - 1 mile per $4 for local / overseas / octopus (no redemption fee, $23,800 non-waivable annual fee) (Need to be Citigold Private Client customer AND by Invitation only)
6. SCB Priority Banking Visa Infinite - $7.5 per mile for local spending ($15 per mile for Insurance Spending (NOT BILL PAYMENT)) and Octopus, $5 per mile overseas spending ($300 flat redemption fee) (Need to be SCB Priority Banking customer) Note 2
7. BEA Supreme Gold World Master - 1 mile per $5 for local /overseas / Octopus / Bill Payment (Excluding the following categories: Education, Insurance and Tax) (no fee) (Need to be BEA Supreme Gold (顯卓理財) customer) Note 3
8. Shacom World Master - 1 mile per $8 local purchases / overseas / octopus ($10 per 1,000AM min $100 max $500) (Need to be Shacom SMART Banking (慧通理財) customer)
9. CCB HK Visa Infinite - 1 mile per $8 spent for Local Spending / Overseas Spending / Octopus / Bill payment ($50 per 5,000 miles AM min $100) (Need to be CCB Premier Banking (貴賓理財) / Premier Select (貴賓晉裕) customer)
Full list:
I. Overseas
1. BOC Travel Rewards Visa Signature Card - 8% rebate for each transaction >$500 overseas spending (max $500 per month) (requirement: 1. overseas transaction for that month (any amount per transaction) > $6,000; 2. three times local spending (any amount)) plus 1 mile per $15
2. BoC Wealth Management Visa Infinite - 1 mile per $2.5 for overseas spending / local dining if that month's accumulated spending is over $15000 ($50/5,000 miles min $100 max $300) (Need to be BoC Wealth Management (中銀理財) customer)
3. [to 31 Dec 2018] HSBC (excluding amounts billed in HK and PRC) - 1 mile / $2.78 (HSBC Visa Signature) / $4.16 (other HSBC Credit Cards INCLUDING HSBC Premier World Master) spent (select Overseas Spending category ONLY) / $6.25 (HSBC Visa Signature) spent (NOT select Overseas Spending category) ($300 fee for a year's worth of redemptions)** ++
4. (if ONLINE / PAYWAVE) CCB HK eye Card - 1 mile / $2.14 (inclusive of 5X online bonus, cap at $50,000 per calender year and (2X extra overseas bonus, cap at $75000 per membership year ) ($50 per 5,000 miles min $100)
5. Citibank Premiermiles (>=$20K per billing cycle) (excluding RMB and MOP) - 1 mile per $3 spent (no redemption fee)** ++ ^
6. [to 31 Dec 2017] DBS Eminent (excluding MOP) - 1 mile per $3.6 spent ($50 fee per 5,000 miles)
7. [to 28 Feb 2018] Fubon Platinum / Titanium - 1 mile per $3.75 spent ($50/5,000AM min $250 max $500) (plus 133 Sure win miles if txn amt >$600)
Note: 1 mile per $0.75 for TWD spendings in Taiwan (max $5,000/month and $10,000/year), and 1 mile per $1.875 for KRW and JPY spendings in Korea and Japan (Seperate registration needed, max $20,000/month, two months per calendar year max)^
8. Amex Plat Charge - 1 mile per $3.75 spent (first $160,000 spending, $5/mile thereafter, $200 flat redemption fee)
9. Citibank Prestige / Premiermiles (<$20K) (excluding RMB and MOP) - 1 mile per $4 spent (no redemption fee, $2,500 non-waivable annual fee for the Prestige)** ++ ^
10. DBS Black World Master (excluding MOP) - 1 mile per $4 spent overseas (no fee)^
11. SCB Asia Miles World Master - 1 mile per $4 spent (automatic conversion)
12. Amex CX Elite - 1 mile per $4 spent (automatic conversion)
13. BEA Flyer World Master / Supreme Gold World Master - 1 mile per $5 (no fee)^
14. CCB HK Platinum Visa / Platinum Master - 1 mile per $5 ($50 per 5,000 miles min $100)
15. SCB Priority Banking Visa Infinite - 1 mile per $5 spent ($300 flat fee redemption)**
^: DO NOT Award points for DCC Transactions
II. Supermarket, dept store, Telecommunications bills on autopay:
1A . [to 31 Dec 2018] HSBC - 1 mile / $2.78 (HSBC Visa Signature)/$4.16 (other HSBC Credit Cards INCLUDING HSBC Premier World Master) spent# (select Home Spending category ONLY) ($300 fee for a year's worth of redemptions)** ++
1B. [to 31 Dec 2018] HSBC - 1 mile / $2.78 (HSBC Visa Signature)/$4.16 (other HSBC Credit Cards INCLUDING HSBC Premier World Master) spent# (select Lifestyle Spending category ONLY) ($300 fee for a year's worth of redemptions)** ++
1C. [to 31 Dec 2018] HSBC - 1 mile / $2.78 (HSBC Visa Signature)/$4.16 (other HSBC Credit Cards INCLUDING HSBC Premier World Master) spent# (select Entertainment Spending category ONLY) ($300 fee for a year's worth of redemptions)** ++
2. Citibank Rewards - 1 mile / $3 spent ($50 fee per 5,000 mile redeemed) (on first $12,500 spending per statement month) Note 2** ++
3. (if ONLINE / PAYWAVE) CCB HK eye Card - 1 mile / $3 (inclusive of 5X online bonus, cap at $75000 per calender year ($50 per 5,000 miles AM min $100)
III. Dining
1. [to 31 Dec 2018] HSBC - 1 mile / $2.78 (HSBC Visa Signature) / $4.16 (other HSBC Credit Cards INCLUDING HSBC Premier World Master) spent# (select Dining Spending category ONLY) ($300 fee for a year's worth of redemptions)** ++
1b. [to 31 Dec 2017] HSBC (non-Visa Signature, INCLUDING HSBC Premier World Master) (select Dining category) - 1 mile / $4.16 ($300 fee for a year's worth of redemptions)** ++
1c. [to 31 Dec 2017] HSBC Visa Signature (did not select Dining category) - 1 mile / $6.25 ($300 fee for a year's worth of redemptions) ** ++
2. SCB Asia Miles World Master - 1 mile per $4 spent (automatic conversion)
3. BEA Flyer World Master - 1 mile / $5 (no fee)
Note: Restaurants in hotels sometimes are regarded as "Hotel" under V/M classification and thus ineligible for any dining promotions, using CUP can usually (but not always) get around this problem
IV. Travel agents:
** ++1. [to 31 Dec 2018] HSBC - 1 mile / $2.78 (HSBC Visa Signature) / $4.16 (other HSBC Credit Cards INCLUDING HSBC Premier World Master) spent# (select LifeStyle Spending category ONLY)/ $6.25 (HSBC Visa Signature NOT selecting LifeStyle Spending category)($300 fee for a year's worth of redemptions)
2. CCB HK EYE (if online) - 1 mile per $2.14 spent (First $50,000 only) ($50 per 5,000 miles AM min $100)
3. Amex Plat Charge - 1 mile per $3.75 spent (first $160,000 spending, $5/mile thereafter, $200 flat redemption fee)
V. Other retail spending
1. [to 14 Mar 18] (if online) CCB HK Premier Banking Visa Infinite - 1 mile per $2.67 spent ($50 per 5,000 miles AM min $100) (first $12.5K spending ONLINE per month only, else $8 per mile)
2. CCB HK eye Card - 1 mile per $3 ($50 per 5,000 miles AM min $100) (ONLINE or PAYWAVE Spending ONLY, else $15 per mile)
3. (if online) SCB Asia Miles World Master - 1 mile per $4 spent (automatic conversion) (ONLINE spending ONLY, else $6 per mile)
4. BEA Flyer World Master / BEA Supreme Gold World Master - 1 mile per $5 spent (no fee) Note 3
** 5. SCB WorldMiles AE - 1 mile per $6 spent ($300 flat redemption fee)
** ++ 6. Citibank Prestige - 1 mile per $6 spent (no redemption fee, $2,500 non-waiveable annual fee)
7. Amex CX Elite - 1 mile per $6 spent (automatic conversion)
8. DBS Black World Master - 1 mile per $6 spent (no fee)
9. [to 31 Dec 2017] DBS Eminent - 1 mile per $7.2 spent ($50 fee per 5,000 miles)
10. [to 28 Feb 2018] Fubon Platinum / Titanium - 1 mile per $7.5 spent spending >=$300 on Saturdays and Sundays ($50/5,000AM min $250 max $500) (plus 133 Sure win miles if txn amt >$600 (if NOT ONLINE))
** 11. SCB Priority Banking Visa Infinite - 1 mile per $7.5 spent ($300 flat redemption fee)
** ++ 12. Amex (Gold grade and higher) - 1 mile per $7.5 spent (to $160,000), $200 flat redemption fee). (1 mile per $3 spent for 5x shops and 1 mile per $1.5 spent for 10x shops)
** ++ 13. Citibank Premiermiles - 1 mile per $8 spent (no fee)
13. Shacom World Master / Platinum / Titanium / Diamond UnionPay - 1 mile per $8 spent ($10 per 1,000AM min $100 max $500)
VI. Bill payments (Excluding Tax or any payment to IRD)
VI A. General Bill Payments (EXCLUDING Insurance and Education)
1. BEA Flyer World Master / BEA Supreme Gold World Master - 1 mile per $8 spent on bill payment (Excluding the following categories: Education, Insurance) (no fee) Note 3
2. CCB HK Visa Infinite - 1 mile per $8 spent ($50 per 5,000 miles AM min $100)
3. CCB HK Platinum Visa / CCB HK Platinum Master / CCB HK Platinum Dual Currency UnionPay - 1 mile per $15 spent (Each Card Membership Year cap at 12 times of credit limit)
4. BoC Wealth Management Visa Infinite/BoC Platinum Visa/BoC Dual Currency Unionpay - 1 mile per $15 spent (Each Card cap at $10,000 per Month) ($50/5,000 miles min $100)
5. [to 31 Dec 2017] HSBC Platinum Visa / Advance Platinum Visa / Premier World Master / Visa Signature / Green Card - 1 mile per $25 spent
VI B. Education Bill Payments
1. CCB HK Visa Infinite - 1 mile per $8 spent ($50 per 5,000 miles AM min $100)
2. CCB HK Platinum Visa / CCB HK Platinum Master / CCB HK Platinum Dual Currency UnionPay - 1 mile per $15 spent (Each Card Membership Year cap at 12 times of credit limit)
3. BoC Wealth Management Visa Infinite/BoC Platinum Visa/BoC Dual Currency Unionpay - 1 mile per $15 spent (Each Card cap at $10,000 per Month) ($50/5,000 miles min $100)
4. [to 31 Dec 2017] HSBC Platinum Visa / Advance Platinum Visa / Premier World Master / Visa Signature / Green Card - 1 mile per $25 spent
VI C. Insurance Bill Payments
1. CCB HK Visa Infinite - 1 mile per $8 spent ($50 per 5,000 miles AM min $100)
2. CCB HK Platinum Visa / CCB HK Platinum Master / CCB HK Platinum Dual Currency UnionPay - 1 mile per $15 spent (Each Card Membership Year cap at 12 times of credit limit)
3. BoC Wealth Management Visa Infinite / BoC Platinum Visa & Master / BoC Platinum Dual Currency Unionpay - 1 mile per $15 spent (Each Card cap at $10,000 per Month) ($50/5,000 miles min $100)
4. HSBC Platinum Visa / Advance Platinum Visa / Premier World Master / Visa Signature / Green Card - 1 mile per $25 spent
VI D. Specific bill payment merchants who accept autopay for higher earn rates (by merchant)
1. Towngas autopay - Citi Prestige $6/mile
2. CLP autopay - Citi Prestige $6/mile, BEA $5/AM
3. HKE - DBS Black $6/AM
Note 1: Other issuers in Hong Kong DO NOT award bonus points for bill payment
VII. Octopus Automatic Add-Value
** ++ 1. Citibank Prestige - 1 mile per $6 spent (no redemption fee, $2,500 non-waiveable annual fee)
2. Bankcomm Diamond Dual Currency Card - 1 mile per HK$6 spent for $500 recharges, 1 mile per HK$12 spent for $250 recharges ($100 flat redemption fee)
3. SCB Asia Miles World Master - 1 mile per $6 spent (automatic conversion)
** 4. SCB Priority Banking Visa Infinite - 1 mile per $7.5 spent ($300 flat redemption fee)
5. BEA Flyer World Master / BEA Supreme Gold World Master - 1 mile per $8 spent (no fee) Note 3
6. CCB HK Visa Infinite - 1 mile per $8 spent ($50 per 5,000 miles AM min $100)
** ++ 7. Citibank Premiermiles - 1 mile per $8 spent (no fee)
8. Shacom World Master / Platinum / Titanium / Diamond UnionPay - 1 mile per $8 spent ($10 per 1,000AM min $100 max $500)
VIII. China Unionpay RMB spending
** ++1. [to 31 Dec 2017] HSBC Dual Currency Unionpay card - 1 mile per RMB4.16 spent (select China Spending category ONLY) ($300 fee for a year's worth of redemptions)
2. Bankcomm Diamond Dual Currency Card - 1 mile per RMB6 spent for restaurants or hotels spending >= RMB300, 1 per RMB12 spent other categories ($100 flat redemption fee)
3. Shacom Diamond UnionPay - 1 mile per $8 spent ($10 per 1,000AM min $100 max $500)
4. BoC Dual Currency Unionpay Card - 1 mile per RMB15 spent ($50/5,000 miles min $100)
IX. Electronic wallets
i. Payme https://forum.hongkongcard.com/forumSE/show/21076?page=108 #1071
ii. Wechat https://www.facebook.com/notes/%E9%87%8C%E6%95%B8%E8%91%97%E6%95%B8%E5%84%B2%E5%B E%97%E5%BF%AB/wechat-%E8%BD%89%E8%B3%AC-step-by-step/1793364737574888
iii. Alipay P2P https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/cathay-pacific-marco-polo-club/1812080-credit-card-asia-miles-earning-opportunities-hk-2017-a-77.html#post28934293
Note 2:
** can opt for Krisflyer miles in lieu
++ can opt for BAEC AVIOS in lieu
For HSBC, ONLY Premier World Master holders are able to opt for BAEC Avios and KrisFlyer Miles
Note 3:
BEA Supreme Gold World Master cardholders need to register in advance for the "BEA Mileage Reward" scheme during application (Supreme Gold account opening), or else pay $1800 penalty to register thereafter.
HK miles/hotel points earning ability
Refer to here
Credit card Asia Miles earning opportunities (HK) 2017
Jun 6, 2017, 10:27 pm
#616
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Hong Kong
Programs: CX MPC
Posts: 592
Itunes definitely yes
Paypal not always yes https://forum.hongkongcard.com/forumSE/show/11968
Paypal not always yes https://forum.hongkongcard.com/forumSE/show/11968
Wonder if Paypal depends on which merchant you use? My iHerb order was priced in HK$, but billed by Paypal out of the US. Also just found another one: (hefty) UK visa fees are billed in HK$ out of the UK.
Jun 6, 2017, 11:51 pm
#617
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Location: HKG
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I think the rough theory is
Overseas merchant billing in HKD: overseas Paypal
HK merchant billing in HKD: can go either way
Overseas merchant billing in HKD: overseas Paypal
HK merchant billing in HKD: can go either way
Jun 7, 2017, 8:19 pm
#618
Join Date: May 2006
Location: SIN
Programs: KF, MPC, BAEC // Bonvoy, WoH, Honors
Posts: 1,462
Question on Citi PremierMiles. Does the $3 / mile on overseas spend kick in only on spend above $20k in a given month, or does all spend in that month earn 1 miles per $3 given that I spend more than $20k?
Examples:
$45k overseas spend = 15k miles
or
$45k overseas spend = 5k + 8.33k miles?
I will have some significant expenditures overseas next month and want to ensure I use the right card.
Examples:
$45k overseas spend = 15k miles
or
$45k overseas spend = 5k + 8.33k miles?
I will have some significant expenditures overseas next month and want to ensure I use the right card.
Jun 7, 2017, 8:42 pm
#619
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Question on Citi PremierMiles. Does the $3 / mile on overseas spend kick in only on spend above $20k in a given month, or does all spend in that month earn 1 miles per $3 given that I spend more than $20k?
Examples:
$45k overseas spend = 15k miles
or
$45k overseas spend = 5k + 8.33k miles?
I will have some significant expenditures overseas next month and want to ensure I use the right card.
Examples:
$45k overseas spend = 15k miles
or
$45k overseas spend = 5k + 8.33k miles?
I will have some significant expenditures overseas next month and want to ensure I use the right card.
Jun 8, 2017, 8:38 pm
#620
Join Date: May 2017
Location: HK
Programs: MPC Diamond
Posts: 101
This is a longshot, but does anyone know of a way to have the credit card companies stop offering the option to settle foreign bills in HKD at rip-off FX rates? I keep getting burned by this by missing the fact that this option is offered on the credit card receipt, not ticking any option as a result, and later finding out that they charged me the HKD amount instead of the local currency amount that would have converted at a more favorable rate even after the 1.95% forex charge (even though I didn't select any option). This has happened to me for both Visa and MC credit cards...
Alternatively, is there a way to make it such that the default option is the local currency option? Or is it completely at the vendor's discretion? If it is the vendor deciding this, just seems frustrating as they presumably don't benefit since they will always receive the same amount in local currency
Alternatively, is there a way to make it such that the default option is the local currency option? Or is it completely at the vendor's discretion? If it is the vendor deciding this, just seems frustrating as they presumably don't benefit since they will always receive the same amount in local currency
Jun 8, 2017, 10:30 pm
#621
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Hong Kong
Programs: CX DM (OWE), TK Elite (*A Gold)
Posts: 202
I just got an invitation in the post from MCP:
Amex CX Elite - Welcome offer:
Local spend HKD2/ AM (HKD100k cap)
Overseas spend HKD2/ AM (HKD100k cap)
First 3 months.
Invitation only but looks like a generic RSVP code - CXRSVP112
https://www.americanexpress.com/hk/e...cxrsvp112.html
Amex CX Elite - Welcome offer:
Local spend HKD2/ AM (HKD100k cap)
Overseas spend HKD2/ AM (HKD100k cap)
First 3 months.
Invitation only but looks like a generic RSVP code - CXRSVP112
https://www.americanexpress.com/hk/e...cxrsvp112.html
Jun 8, 2017, 11:00 pm
#622
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DBS cuts to card points earning in Singapore
Not directly applicable to us, but DBS operates both here and Singapore, and some of their products in both markets are similar, so we better watch out:
More bad news:
http://www.dbs.com.sg/iwov-resources...gramme_tnc.pdf
2.6 With effect from 2 July 2017,
a) DBS Points will not be awarded for:
Bill payments and all transactions via AXS, SAM, eNETS;
Payments to educational institutions;
Payment to government institutions and services (court cases, fines, bail and bonds, tax
payment, postal services, parking lots and garages, intra-government purchases and any
other government services not classified here);
Payment to insurance companies (sales, underwriting, and premiums);
Payments to financial institutions (including banks and brokerages);
Payment to non-profit organisations;
Any top-ups or payment of funds to payment service provides, prepaid cards and any
prepaid accounts (including EZ-Link, NETS FlashPay and Transit Link);
Instalment payment plan purchases, preferred payment plans, balance transfer, fund
transfer, cash advances, annual fees, interest, late payment charges, all fees charged by
DBS, miscellaneous charges imposed by DBS (unless otherwise stated in writing by DBS).
http://www.dbs.com.sg/iwov-resources...gramme_tnc.pdf
2.6 With effect from 2 July 2017,
a) DBS Points will not be awarded for:
Bill payments and all transactions via AXS, SAM, eNETS;
Payments to educational institutions;
Payment to government institutions and services (court cases, fines, bail and bonds, tax
payment, postal services, parking lots and garages, intra-government purchases and any
other government services not classified here);
Payment to insurance companies (sales, underwriting, and premiums);
Payments to financial institutions (including banks and brokerages);
Payment to non-profit organisations;
Any top-ups or payment of funds to payment service provides, prepaid cards and any
prepaid accounts (including EZ-Link, NETS FlashPay and Transit Link);
Instalment payment plan purchases, preferred payment plans, balance transfer, fund
transfer, cash advances, annual fees, interest, late payment charges, all fees charged by
DBS, miscellaneous charges imposed by DBS (unless otherwise stated in writing by DBS).
Jun 8, 2017, 11:03 pm
#623
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This is a longshot, but does anyone know of a way to have the credit card companies stop offering the option to settle foreign bills in HKD at rip-off FX rates? I keep getting burned by this by missing the fact that this option is offered on the credit card receipt, not ticking any option as a result, and later finding out that they charged me the HKD amount instead of the local currency amount that would have converted at a more favorable rate even after the 1.95% forex charge (even though I didn't select any option). This has happened to me for both Visa and MC credit cards...
Alternatively, is there a way to make it such that the default option is the local currency option? Or is it completely at the vendor's discretion? If it is the vendor deciding this, just seems frustrating as they presumably don't benefit since they will always receive the same amount in local currency
Alternatively, is there a way to make it such that the default option is the local currency option? Or is it completely at the vendor's discretion? If it is the vendor deciding this, just seems frustrating as they presumably don't benefit since they will always receive the same amount in local currency
I also believe it is part of PRC 国策 in order to encourage Unionpay acceptance.
No you can't switch it off by default otherwise the issuer banks will all do so. You can use Unionpay (I do that in the PRC no matter how Quisling it feels) and Amex to get around the problem (using Amex means suffering cherry picking exchange rates tho https://www.hongkongcard.com/forumSE/show/17994)
Master thread here http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/credi...l#post28417070. Was just writing about how HKMA was sympathetic to DCC compared to US regulators. I wrote some of that thread's wiki http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showwiki.php?t=1815666
Last edited by percysmith; Jun 8, 2017 at 11:29 pm
Jun 9, 2017, 12:02 am
#624
Join Date: May 2017
Location: HK
Programs: MPC Diamond
Posts: 101
Thanks, percy. Comforting to know that I'm not the only one who is annoyed by this practice. I don't get how merchants benefit though - aren't they still only receiving the local amount on the receipt regardless? At least this is what the merchants have been telling me in my past two separate disputes with them.
Jun 9, 2017, 2:24 am
#625
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: HKG
Programs: BA(GGL) QF LTS CX AM, Hilton Diamond, PPL(A)
Posts: 1,654
DCC is the biggest rip off that exists.
Zero consumer benefits.
Sometimes paypal tries to sneak that in, and it is hard to choose the default (pay in default currency).
Zero consumer benefits.
Sometimes paypal tries to sneak that in, and it is hard to choose the default (pay in default currency).
Jun 9, 2017, 2:31 am
#626
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 253
I found Paypal always have to pay in HKD? For DCC, you can ask the merchant to use local currency instead
Jun 9, 2017, 3:18 am
#627
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: HKG
Programs: BA(GGL) QF LTS CX AM, Hilton Diamond, PPL(A)
Posts: 1,654
For a while, i couldn't figure out how to switch it off.. buried away somewhere sneakily IIRC.
Made me boycott them intentionally... if i could avoid paypal, I would.
http://milelion.com/2016/11/18/bewar...ings-with-dcc/
Jun 9, 2017, 3:39 am
#628
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Can switch off https://forum.hongkongcard.com/forumSE/show/15295
But must be done before starting transaction
Can't, not even in Greyhound Taikoo Shing with majuki's Chase CSP even with me troubleshooting with staff in Cantonese http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/credi...l#post23675006
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Oh big workaround: use paywave/contactless/Apple Pay/Android Pay where available. So far in my experience merchants cannot DCC small ticket transactions
But must be done before starting transaction
Can't, not even in Greyhound Taikoo Shing with majuki's Chase CSP even with me troubleshooting with staff in Cantonese http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/credi...l#post23675006
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Oh big workaround: use paywave/contactless/Apple Pay/Android Pay where available. So far in my experience merchants cannot DCC small ticket transactions
Last edited by percysmith; Jun 9, 2017 at 4:42 am
Jun 10, 2017, 8:24 am
#629
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Bankcomm Super Fun Spending Program Observations
If all three phases played:
Diamond CUP 54,166AM ($1.66/AM)
Yan Chai and FWD Diamond CUP 46,666AM ($1.92/AM)
Plat Visa 33,333AM ($2.7/AM)
http://www.bankcomm.com.hk/mediafile...f_33238_en.pdf
Register 3977 6211 tomorrow
(Edit 25/5) Only $400 or above spends count
Diamond CUP 54,166AM ($1.66/AM)
Yan Chai and FWD Diamond CUP 46,666AM ($1.92/AM)
Plat Visa 33,333AM ($2.7/AM)
http://www.bankcomm.com.hk/mediafile...f_33238_en.pdf
Register 3977 6211 tomorrow
(Edit 25/5) Only $400 or above spends count
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Sir Humphrey Appleby
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於 2017-04-21 09:25 AM 發表
Lux Traveller於2017-04-21 09:22:37發表
今次合資格本地簽賬好似唔包括保費喎,上階段有冇Ching試過?
The Bank of Communications' promotions always exclude insurance payments, which is despicable. Otherwise one would have easily fulfilled the spending requirement.
Me: Not always - not the March-May 2016 version of this offer https://forum.hongkongcard.com/forumSE/show/17593 . It started in the July-October iteration https://forum.hongkongcard.com/forumSE/show/18787 .
But I missed it, and charged an insurance premium to it. But thanks for pointing it out, I can still make up the spending.
Have chip reader - the cashier sticks it in, the machine spits out the card without processing.
Cashier proceeds to swipe, I tried no pin and 000000 pin, rejected with reject slip.
Cashier tries everything twice, same.
I handed over a Flyer World, processed
I called Bankcomm on Skypeout about it, it turns out Bankcomm rejected swipe as Cardholder Verification Method. Probably because the cashier had a chip reader. But I saw for myself the card terminal rejected that.
Dinner: Unionpay wasn't even accepted
Jun 10, 2017, 3:17 pm
#630
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Hong Kong
Posts: 188
One piece of good news when it's difficult to find merchants accepting Unionpay. Just found out today that amazon.com does!