Jan 1, 2017, 7:55 am
Last edit by: percysmith
Continued from 2016 discussion: 2016 Credit Card Earning discussion
Churning and Welcome Offers: Credit Card Asiamiles Churning and Welcome Offers discussion (HK) - continuously upda
For time required to transfer miles from banks, please see here.
On-going offers
Beginner's recommendation (rates quoted before other short term promotions):
(Just one for now) BEA Flyer World Master - 1 mile per $5 for local purchases / overseas purchases; 1 mile per $8 for Octopus AAVS / Bill Payment (Excluding the following categories: Education, Insurance and Tax) (no fee)
Credit Cards that are by Invitation Only or Applied in lieu with an Account:
1. WLB Luxe Visa Infinite - 1 mile per $2.4 for overseas airline / travel / hotel / dining; $4/mile on local airline / travel / hotel / dining ($50/5,000 miles min $50 max $500) (Need to be Wing Lung Private Banking customers)
2. BoC Wealth Management Visa Infinite - 1 mile per $15 for local / overseas / octopus AAVS / bill payment, 1 mile per $5 for overseas spending / local dining, 1 mile per $2.5 for overseas spending / local dining if that month's accumulated spending is over $15000 ($50/5,000 miles min $100 max $300) (Need to be BoC Wealth Management (中銀理財) customer)
3. HSBC Premier World Master for 6X (select one category only below, 1 mile per $4.16. Under this promotion, cap at $100,000), and all other seasonal promotions. ($300 fee for a year's worth of redemption) [to 31 Dec 2017] (Need to be HSBC Premier customer)
4. BoC Enrich World MC - 1 mile per $15 for local / overseas / octopus AAVS / bill payment, 1 mile per $3 for dining/dept store if that month's accumulated spending is over $15000 ($50/5,000 miles min $100 max $300) (Need to be BoC Enrich (智盈理財) customer)
5. HSBC Advance Platinum Visa for 6X (select one category only below, 1 mile per $4.16. Under this promotion, cap at $100,000), and all other seasonal promotions. ($300 fee for a year's worth of redemption) [to 31 Dec 2017] (Need to be HSBC Advance customer)
5. Citibank Ultima card - 1 mile per $4 for local / overseas / octopus (no redemption fee, $23,800 non-waivable annual fee) (Need to be Citigold Private Client customer AND by Invitation only)
6. SCB Priority Banking Visa Infinite - $7.5 per mile for local spending ($15 per mile for Insurance Spending (NOT BILL PAYMENT)) and Octopus, $5 per mile overseas spending ($300 flat redemption fee) (Need to be SCB Priority Banking customer) Note 2
7. BEA Supreme Gold World Master - 1 mile per $5 for local /overseas / Octopus / Bill Payment (Excluding the following categories: Education, Insurance and Tax) (no fee) (Need to be BEA Supreme Gold (顯卓理財) customer) Note 3
8. Shacom World Master - 1 mile per $8 local purchases / overseas / octopus ($10 per 1,000AM min $100 max $500) (Need to be Shacom SMART Banking (慧通理財) customer)
9. CCB HK Visa Infinite - 1 mile per $8 spent for Local Spending / Overseas Spending / Octopus / Bill payment ($50 per 5,000 miles AM min $100) (Need to be CCB Premier Banking (貴賓理財) / Premier Select (貴賓晉裕) customer)
Full list:
I. Overseas
1. BOC Travel Rewards Visa Signature Card - 8% rebate for each transaction >$500 overseas spending (max $500 per month) (requirement: 1. overseas transaction for that month (any amount per transaction) > $6,000; 2. three times local spending (any amount)) plus 1 mile per $15
2. BoC Wealth Management Visa Infinite - 1 mile per $2.5 for overseas spending / local dining if that month's accumulated spending is over $15000 ($50/5,000 miles min $100 max $300) (Need to be BoC Wealth Management (中銀理財) customer)
3. [to 31 Dec 2018] HSBC (excluding amounts billed in HK and PRC) - 1 mile / $2.78 (HSBC Visa Signature) / $4.16 (other HSBC Credit Cards INCLUDING HSBC Premier World Master) spent (select Overseas Spending category ONLY) / $6.25 (HSBC Visa Signature) spent (NOT select Overseas Spending category) ($300 fee for a year's worth of redemptions)** ++
4. (if ONLINE / PAYWAVE) CCB HK eye Card - 1 mile / $2.14 (inclusive of 5X online bonus, cap at $50,000 per calender year and (2X extra overseas bonus, cap at $75000 per membership year ) ($50 per 5,000 miles min $100)
5. Citibank Premiermiles (>=$20K per billing cycle) (excluding RMB and MOP) - 1 mile per $3 spent (no redemption fee)** ++ ^
6. [to 31 Dec 2017] DBS Eminent (excluding MOP) - 1 mile per $3.6 spent ($50 fee per 5,000 miles)
7. [to 28 Feb 2018] Fubon Platinum / Titanium - 1 mile per $3.75 spent ($50/5,000AM min $250 max $500) (plus 133 Sure win miles if txn amt >$600)
Note: 1 mile per $0.75 for TWD spendings in Taiwan (max $5,000/month and $10,000/year), and 1 mile per $1.875 for KRW and JPY spendings in Korea and Japan (Seperate registration needed, max $20,000/month, two months per calendar year max)^
8. Amex Plat Charge - 1 mile per $3.75 spent (first $160,000 spending, $5/mile thereafter, $200 flat redemption fee)
9. Citibank Prestige / Premiermiles (<$20K) (excluding RMB and MOP) - 1 mile per $4 spent (no redemption fee, $2,500 non-waivable annual fee for the Prestige)** ++ ^
10. DBS Black World Master (excluding MOP) - 1 mile per $4 spent overseas (no fee)^
11. SCB Asia Miles World Master - 1 mile per $4 spent (automatic conversion)
12. Amex CX Elite - 1 mile per $4 spent (automatic conversion)
13. BEA Flyer World Master / Supreme Gold World Master - 1 mile per $5 (no fee)^
14. CCB HK Platinum Visa / Platinum Master - 1 mile per $5 ($50 per 5,000 miles min $100)
15. SCB Priority Banking Visa Infinite - 1 mile per $5 spent ($300 flat fee redemption)**
^: DO NOT Award points for DCC Transactions
II. Supermarket, dept store, Telecommunications bills on autopay:
1A . [to 31 Dec 2018] HSBC - 1 mile / $2.78 (HSBC Visa Signature)/$4.16 (other HSBC Credit Cards INCLUDING HSBC Premier World Master) spent# (select Home Spending category ONLY) ($300 fee for a year's worth of redemptions)** ++
1B. [to 31 Dec 2018] HSBC - 1 mile / $2.78 (HSBC Visa Signature)/$4.16 (other HSBC Credit Cards INCLUDING HSBC Premier World Master) spent# (select Lifestyle Spending category ONLY) ($300 fee for a year's worth of redemptions)** ++
1C. [to 31 Dec 2018] HSBC - 1 mile / $2.78 (HSBC Visa Signature)/$4.16 (other HSBC Credit Cards INCLUDING HSBC Premier World Master) spent# (select Entertainment Spending category ONLY) ($300 fee for a year's worth of redemptions)** ++
2. Citibank Rewards - 1 mile / $3 spent ($50 fee per 5,000 mile redeemed) (on first $12,500 spending per statement month) Note 2** ++
3. (if ONLINE / PAYWAVE) CCB HK eye Card - 1 mile / $3 (inclusive of 5X online bonus, cap at $75000 per calender year ($50 per 5,000 miles AM min $100)
III. Dining
1. [to 31 Dec 2018] HSBC - 1 mile / $2.78 (HSBC Visa Signature) / $4.16 (other HSBC Credit Cards INCLUDING HSBC Premier World Master) spent# (select Dining Spending category ONLY) ($300 fee for a year's worth of redemptions)** ++
1b. [to 31 Dec 2017] HSBC (non-Visa Signature, INCLUDING HSBC Premier World Master) (select Dining category) - 1 mile / $4.16 ($300 fee for a year's worth of redemptions)** ++
1c. [to 31 Dec 2017] HSBC Visa Signature (did not select Dining category) - 1 mile / $6.25 ($300 fee for a year's worth of redemptions) ** ++
2. SCB Asia Miles World Master - 1 mile per $4 spent (automatic conversion)
3. BEA Flyer World Master - 1 mile / $5 (no fee)
Note: Restaurants in hotels sometimes are regarded as "Hotel" under V/M classification and thus ineligible for any dining promotions, using CUP can usually (but not always) get around this problem
IV. Travel agents:
** ++1. [to 31 Dec 2018] HSBC - 1 mile / $2.78 (HSBC Visa Signature) / $4.16 (other HSBC Credit Cards INCLUDING HSBC Premier World Master) spent# (select LifeStyle Spending category ONLY)/ $6.25 (HSBC Visa Signature NOT selecting LifeStyle Spending category)($300 fee for a year's worth of redemptions)
2. CCB HK EYE (if online) - 1 mile per $2.14 spent (First $50,000 only) ($50 per 5,000 miles AM min $100)
3. Amex Plat Charge - 1 mile per $3.75 spent (first $160,000 spending, $5/mile thereafter, $200 flat redemption fee)
V. Other retail spending
1. [to 14 Mar 18] (if online) CCB HK Premier Banking Visa Infinite - 1 mile per $2.67 spent ($50 per 5,000 miles AM min $100) (first $12.5K spending ONLINE per month only, else $8 per mile)
2. CCB HK eye Card - 1 mile per $3 ($50 per 5,000 miles AM min $100) (ONLINE or PAYWAVE Spending ONLY, else $15 per mile)
3. (if online) SCB Asia Miles World Master - 1 mile per $4 spent (automatic conversion) (ONLINE spending ONLY, else $6 per mile)
4. BEA Flyer World Master / BEA Supreme Gold World Master - 1 mile per $5 spent (no fee) Note 3
** 5. SCB WorldMiles AE - 1 mile per $6 spent ($300 flat redemption fee)
** ++ 6. Citibank Prestige - 1 mile per $6 spent (no redemption fee, $2,500 non-waiveable annual fee)
7. Amex CX Elite - 1 mile per $6 spent (automatic conversion)
8. DBS Black World Master - 1 mile per $6 spent (no fee)
9. [to 31 Dec 2017] DBS Eminent - 1 mile per $7.2 spent ($50 fee per 5,000 miles)
10. [to 28 Feb 2018] Fubon Platinum / Titanium - 1 mile per $7.5 spent spending >=$300 on Saturdays and Sundays ($50/5,000AM min $250 max $500) (plus 133 Sure win miles if txn amt >$600 (if NOT ONLINE))
** 11. SCB Priority Banking Visa Infinite - 1 mile per $7.5 spent ($300 flat redemption fee)
** ++ 12. Amex (Gold grade and higher) - 1 mile per $7.5 spent (to $160,000), $200 flat redemption fee). (1 mile per $3 spent for 5x shops and 1 mile per $1.5 spent for 10x shops)
** ++ 13. Citibank Premiermiles - 1 mile per $8 spent (no fee)
13. Shacom World Master / Platinum / Titanium / Diamond UnionPay - 1 mile per $8 spent ($10 per 1,000AM min $100 max $500)
VI. Bill payments (Excluding Tax or any payment to IRD)
VI A. General Bill Payments (EXCLUDING Insurance and Education)
1. BEA Flyer World Master / BEA Supreme Gold World Master - 1 mile per $8 spent on bill payment (Excluding the following categories: Education, Insurance) (no fee) Note 3
2. CCB HK Visa Infinite - 1 mile per $8 spent ($50 per 5,000 miles AM min $100)
3. CCB HK Platinum Visa / CCB HK Platinum Master / CCB HK Platinum Dual Currency UnionPay - 1 mile per $15 spent (Each Card Membership Year cap at 12 times of credit limit)
4. BoC Wealth Management Visa Infinite/BoC Platinum Visa/BoC Dual Currency Unionpay - 1 mile per $15 spent (Each Card cap at $10,000 per Month) ($50/5,000 miles min $100)
5. [to 31 Dec 2017] HSBC Platinum Visa / Advance Platinum Visa / Premier World Master / Visa Signature / Green Card - 1 mile per $25 spent
VI B. Education Bill Payments
1. CCB HK Visa Infinite - 1 mile per $8 spent ($50 per 5,000 miles AM min $100)
2. CCB HK Platinum Visa / CCB HK Platinum Master / CCB HK Platinum Dual Currency UnionPay - 1 mile per $15 spent (Each Card Membership Year cap at 12 times of credit limit)
3. BoC Wealth Management Visa Infinite/BoC Platinum Visa/BoC Dual Currency Unionpay - 1 mile per $15 spent (Each Card cap at $10,000 per Month) ($50/5,000 miles min $100)
4. [to 31 Dec 2017] HSBC Platinum Visa / Advance Platinum Visa / Premier World Master / Visa Signature / Green Card - 1 mile per $25 spent
VI C. Insurance Bill Payments
1. CCB HK Visa Infinite - 1 mile per $8 spent ($50 per 5,000 miles AM min $100)
2. CCB HK Platinum Visa / CCB HK Platinum Master / CCB HK Platinum Dual Currency UnionPay - 1 mile per $15 spent (Each Card Membership Year cap at 12 times of credit limit)
3. BoC Wealth Management Visa Infinite / BoC Platinum Visa & Master / BoC Platinum Dual Currency Unionpay - 1 mile per $15 spent (Each Card cap at $10,000 per Month) ($50/5,000 miles min $100)
4. HSBC Platinum Visa / Advance Platinum Visa / Premier World Master / Visa Signature / Green Card - 1 mile per $25 spent
VI D. Specific bill payment merchants who accept autopay for higher earn rates (by merchant)
1. Towngas autopay - Citi Prestige $6/mile
2. CLP autopay - Citi Prestige $6/mile, BEA $5/AM
3. HKE - DBS Black $6/AM
Note 1: Other issuers in Hong Kong DO NOT award bonus points for bill payment
VII. Octopus Automatic Add-Value
** ++ 1. Citibank Prestige - 1 mile per $6 spent (no redemption fee, $2,500 non-waiveable annual fee)
2. Bankcomm Diamond Dual Currency Card - 1 mile per HK$6 spent for $500 recharges, 1 mile per HK$12 spent for $250 recharges ($100 flat redemption fee)
3. SCB Asia Miles World Master - 1 mile per $6 spent (automatic conversion)
** 4. SCB Priority Banking Visa Infinite - 1 mile per $7.5 spent ($300 flat redemption fee)
5. BEA Flyer World Master / BEA Supreme Gold World Master - 1 mile per $8 spent (no fee) Note 3
6. CCB HK Visa Infinite - 1 mile per $8 spent ($50 per 5,000 miles AM min $100)
** ++ 7. Citibank Premiermiles - 1 mile per $8 spent (no fee)
8. Shacom World Master / Platinum / Titanium / Diamond UnionPay - 1 mile per $8 spent ($10 per 1,000AM min $100 max $500)
VIII. China Unionpay RMB spending
** ++1. [to 31 Dec 2017] HSBC Dual Currency Unionpay card - 1 mile per RMB4.16 spent (select China Spending category ONLY) ($300 fee for a year's worth of redemptions)
2. Bankcomm Diamond Dual Currency Card - 1 mile per RMB6 spent for restaurants or hotels spending >= RMB300, 1 per RMB12 spent other categories ($100 flat redemption fee)
3. Shacom Diamond UnionPay - 1 mile per $8 spent ($10 per 1,000AM min $100 max $500)
4. BoC Dual Currency Unionpay Card - 1 mile per RMB15 spent ($50/5,000 miles min $100)
IX. Electronic wallets
i. Payme https://forum.hongkongcard.com/forumSE/show/21076?page=108 #1071
ii. Wechat https://www.facebook.com/notes/%E9%87%8C%E6%95%B8%E8%91%97%E6%95%B8%E5%84%B2%E5%B E%97%E5%BF%AB/wechat-%E8%BD%89%E8%B3%AC-step-by-step/1793364737574888
iii. Alipay P2P https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/cathay-pacific-marco-polo-club/1812080-credit-card-asia-miles-earning-opportunities-hk-2017-a-77.html#post28934293
Note 2:
** can opt for Krisflyer miles in lieu
++ can opt for BAEC AVIOS in lieu
For HSBC, ONLY Premier World Master holders are able to opt for BAEC Avios and KrisFlyer Miles
Note 3:
BEA Supreme Gold World Master cardholders need to register in advance for the "BEA Mileage Reward" scheme during application (Supreme Gold account opening), or else pay $1800 penalty to register thereafter.
HK miles/hotel points earning ability
Refer to here
Churning and Welcome Offers: Credit Card Asiamiles Churning and Welcome Offers discussion (HK) - continuously upda
For time required to transfer miles from banks, please see here.
On-going offers
Beginner's recommendation (rates quoted before other short term promotions):
(Just one for now) BEA Flyer World Master - 1 mile per $5 for local purchases / overseas purchases; 1 mile per $8 for Octopus AAVS / Bill Payment (Excluding the following categories: Education, Insurance and Tax) (no fee)
Credit Cards that are by Invitation Only or Applied in lieu with an Account:
1. WLB Luxe Visa Infinite - 1 mile per $2.4 for overseas airline / travel / hotel / dining; $4/mile on local airline / travel / hotel / dining ($50/5,000 miles min $50 max $500) (Need to be Wing Lung Private Banking customers)
2. BoC Wealth Management Visa Infinite - 1 mile per $15 for local / overseas / octopus AAVS / bill payment, 1 mile per $5 for overseas spending / local dining, 1 mile per $2.5 for overseas spending / local dining if that month's accumulated spending is over $15000 ($50/5,000 miles min $100 max $300) (Need to be BoC Wealth Management (中銀理財) customer)
3. HSBC Premier World Master for 6X (select one category only below, 1 mile per $4.16. Under this promotion, cap at $100,000), and all other seasonal promotions. ($300 fee for a year's worth of redemption) [to 31 Dec 2017] (Need to be HSBC Premier customer)
4. BoC Enrich World MC - 1 mile per $15 for local / overseas / octopus AAVS / bill payment, 1 mile per $3 for dining/dept store if that month's accumulated spending is over $15000 ($50/5,000 miles min $100 max $300) (Need to be BoC Enrich (智盈理財) customer)
5. HSBC Advance Platinum Visa for 6X (select one category only below, 1 mile per $4.16. Under this promotion, cap at $100,000), and all other seasonal promotions. ($300 fee for a year's worth of redemption) [to 31 Dec 2017] (Need to be HSBC Advance customer)
5. Citibank Ultima card - 1 mile per $4 for local / overseas / octopus (no redemption fee, $23,800 non-waivable annual fee) (Need to be Citigold Private Client customer AND by Invitation only)
6. SCB Priority Banking Visa Infinite - $7.5 per mile for local spending ($15 per mile for Insurance Spending (NOT BILL PAYMENT)) and Octopus, $5 per mile overseas spending ($300 flat redemption fee) (Need to be SCB Priority Banking customer) Note 2
7. BEA Supreme Gold World Master - 1 mile per $5 for local /overseas / Octopus / Bill Payment (Excluding the following categories: Education, Insurance and Tax) (no fee) (Need to be BEA Supreme Gold (顯卓理財) customer) Note 3
8. Shacom World Master - 1 mile per $8 local purchases / overseas / octopus ($10 per 1,000AM min $100 max $500) (Need to be Shacom SMART Banking (慧通理財) customer)
9. CCB HK Visa Infinite - 1 mile per $8 spent for Local Spending / Overseas Spending / Octopus / Bill payment ($50 per 5,000 miles AM min $100) (Need to be CCB Premier Banking (貴賓理財) / Premier Select (貴賓晉裕) customer)
Full list:
I. Overseas
1. BOC Travel Rewards Visa Signature Card - 8% rebate for each transaction >$500 overseas spending (max $500 per month) (requirement: 1. overseas transaction for that month (any amount per transaction) > $6,000; 2. three times local spending (any amount)) plus 1 mile per $15
2. BoC Wealth Management Visa Infinite - 1 mile per $2.5 for overseas spending / local dining if that month's accumulated spending is over $15000 ($50/5,000 miles min $100 max $300) (Need to be BoC Wealth Management (中銀理財) customer)
3. [to 31 Dec 2018] HSBC (excluding amounts billed in HK and PRC) - 1 mile / $2.78 (HSBC Visa Signature) / $4.16 (other HSBC Credit Cards INCLUDING HSBC Premier World Master) spent (select Overseas Spending category ONLY) / $6.25 (HSBC Visa Signature) spent (NOT select Overseas Spending category) ($300 fee for a year's worth of redemptions)** ++
4. (if ONLINE / PAYWAVE) CCB HK eye Card - 1 mile / $2.14 (inclusive of 5X online bonus, cap at $50,000 per calender year and (2X extra overseas bonus, cap at $75000 per membership year ) ($50 per 5,000 miles min $100)
5. Citibank Premiermiles (>=$20K per billing cycle) (excluding RMB and MOP) - 1 mile per $3 spent (no redemption fee)** ++ ^
6. [to 31 Dec 2017] DBS Eminent (excluding MOP) - 1 mile per $3.6 spent ($50 fee per 5,000 miles)
7. [to 28 Feb 2018] Fubon Platinum / Titanium - 1 mile per $3.75 spent ($50/5,000AM min $250 max $500) (plus 133 Sure win miles if txn amt >$600)
Note: 1 mile per $0.75 for TWD spendings in Taiwan (max $5,000/month and $10,000/year), and 1 mile per $1.875 for KRW and JPY spendings in Korea and Japan (Seperate registration needed, max $20,000/month, two months per calendar year max)^
8. Amex Plat Charge - 1 mile per $3.75 spent (first $160,000 spending, $5/mile thereafter, $200 flat redemption fee)
9. Citibank Prestige / Premiermiles (<$20K) (excluding RMB and MOP) - 1 mile per $4 spent (no redemption fee, $2,500 non-waivable annual fee for the Prestige)** ++ ^
10. DBS Black World Master (excluding MOP) - 1 mile per $4 spent overseas (no fee)^
11. SCB Asia Miles World Master - 1 mile per $4 spent (automatic conversion)
12. Amex CX Elite - 1 mile per $4 spent (automatic conversion)
13. BEA Flyer World Master / Supreme Gold World Master - 1 mile per $5 (no fee)^
14. CCB HK Platinum Visa / Platinum Master - 1 mile per $5 ($50 per 5,000 miles min $100)
15. SCB Priority Banking Visa Infinite - 1 mile per $5 spent ($300 flat fee redemption)**
^: DO NOT Award points for DCC Transactions
II. Supermarket, dept store, Telecommunications bills on autopay:
1A . [to 31 Dec 2018] HSBC - 1 mile / $2.78 (HSBC Visa Signature)/$4.16 (other HSBC Credit Cards INCLUDING HSBC Premier World Master) spent# (select Home Spending category ONLY) ($300 fee for a year's worth of redemptions)** ++
1B. [to 31 Dec 2018] HSBC - 1 mile / $2.78 (HSBC Visa Signature)/$4.16 (other HSBC Credit Cards INCLUDING HSBC Premier World Master) spent# (select Lifestyle Spending category ONLY) ($300 fee for a year's worth of redemptions)** ++
1C. [to 31 Dec 2018] HSBC - 1 mile / $2.78 (HSBC Visa Signature)/$4.16 (other HSBC Credit Cards INCLUDING HSBC Premier World Master) spent# (select Entertainment Spending category ONLY) ($300 fee for a year's worth of redemptions)** ++
2. Citibank Rewards - 1 mile / $3 spent ($50 fee per 5,000 mile redeemed) (on first $12,500 spending per statement month) Note 2** ++
3. (if ONLINE / PAYWAVE) CCB HK eye Card - 1 mile / $3 (inclusive of 5X online bonus, cap at $75000 per calender year ($50 per 5,000 miles AM min $100)
III. Dining
1. [to 31 Dec 2018] HSBC - 1 mile / $2.78 (HSBC Visa Signature) / $4.16 (other HSBC Credit Cards INCLUDING HSBC Premier World Master) spent# (select Dining Spending category ONLY) ($300 fee for a year's worth of redemptions)** ++
1b. [to 31 Dec 2017] HSBC (non-Visa Signature, INCLUDING HSBC Premier World Master) (select Dining category) - 1 mile / $4.16 ($300 fee for a year's worth of redemptions)** ++
1c. [to 31 Dec 2017] HSBC Visa Signature (did not select Dining category) - 1 mile / $6.25 ($300 fee for a year's worth of redemptions) ** ++
2. SCB Asia Miles World Master - 1 mile per $4 spent (automatic conversion)
3. BEA Flyer World Master - 1 mile / $5 (no fee)
Note: Restaurants in hotels sometimes are regarded as "Hotel" under V/M classification and thus ineligible for any dining promotions, using CUP can usually (but not always) get around this problem
IV. Travel agents:
** ++1. [to 31 Dec 2018] HSBC - 1 mile / $2.78 (HSBC Visa Signature) / $4.16 (other HSBC Credit Cards INCLUDING HSBC Premier World Master) spent# (select LifeStyle Spending category ONLY)/ $6.25 (HSBC Visa Signature NOT selecting LifeStyle Spending category)($300 fee for a year's worth of redemptions)
2. CCB HK EYE (if online) - 1 mile per $2.14 spent (First $50,000 only) ($50 per 5,000 miles AM min $100)
3. Amex Plat Charge - 1 mile per $3.75 spent (first $160,000 spending, $5/mile thereafter, $200 flat redemption fee)
V. Other retail spending
1. [to 14 Mar 18] (if online) CCB HK Premier Banking Visa Infinite - 1 mile per $2.67 spent ($50 per 5,000 miles AM min $100) (first $12.5K spending ONLINE per month only, else $8 per mile)
2. CCB HK eye Card - 1 mile per $3 ($50 per 5,000 miles AM min $100) (ONLINE or PAYWAVE Spending ONLY, else $15 per mile)
3. (if online) SCB Asia Miles World Master - 1 mile per $4 spent (automatic conversion) (ONLINE spending ONLY, else $6 per mile)
4. BEA Flyer World Master / BEA Supreme Gold World Master - 1 mile per $5 spent (no fee) Note 3
** 5. SCB WorldMiles AE - 1 mile per $6 spent ($300 flat redemption fee)
** ++ 6. Citibank Prestige - 1 mile per $6 spent (no redemption fee, $2,500 non-waiveable annual fee)
7. Amex CX Elite - 1 mile per $6 spent (automatic conversion)
8. DBS Black World Master - 1 mile per $6 spent (no fee)
9. [to 31 Dec 2017] DBS Eminent - 1 mile per $7.2 spent ($50 fee per 5,000 miles)
10. [to 28 Feb 2018] Fubon Platinum / Titanium - 1 mile per $7.5 spent spending >=$300 on Saturdays and Sundays ($50/5,000AM min $250 max $500) (plus 133 Sure win miles if txn amt >$600 (if NOT ONLINE))
** 11. SCB Priority Banking Visa Infinite - 1 mile per $7.5 spent ($300 flat redemption fee)
** ++ 12. Amex (Gold grade and higher) - 1 mile per $7.5 spent (to $160,000), $200 flat redemption fee). (1 mile per $3 spent for 5x shops and 1 mile per $1.5 spent for 10x shops)
** ++ 13. Citibank Premiermiles - 1 mile per $8 spent (no fee)
13. Shacom World Master / Platinum / Titanium / Diamond UnionPay - 1 mile per $8 spent ($10 per 1,000AM min $100 max $500)
VI. Bill payments (Excluding Tax or any payment to IRD)
VI A. General Bill Payments (EXCLUDING Insurance and Education)
1. BEA Flyer World Master / BEA Supreme Gold World Master - 1 mile per $8 spent on bill payment (Excluding the following categories: Education, Insurance) (no fee) Note 3
2. CCB HK Visa Infinite - 1 mile per $8 spent ($50 per 5,000 miles AM min $100)
3. CCB HK Platinum Visa / CCB HK Platinum Master / CCB HK Platinum Dual Currency UnionPay - 1 mile per $15 spent (Each Card Membership Year cap at 12 times of credit limit)
4. BoC Wealth Management Visa Infinite/BoC Platinum Visa/BoC Dual Currency Unionpay - 1 mile per $15 spent (Each Card cap at $10,000 per Month) ($50/5,000 miles min $100)
5. [to 31 Dec 2017] HSBC Platinum Visa / Advance Platinum Visa / Premier World Master / Visa Signature / Green Card - 1 mile per $25 spent
VI B. Education Bill Payments
1. CCB HK Visa Infinite - 1 mile per $8 spent ($50 per 5,000 miles AM min $100)
2. CCB HK Platinum Visa / CCB HK Platinum Master / CCB HK Platinum Dual Currency UnionPay - 1 mile per $15 spent (Each Card Membership Year cap at 12 times of credit limit)
3. BoC Wealth Management Visa Infinite/BoC Platinum Visa/BoC Dual Currency Unionpay - 1 mile per $15 spent (Each Card cap at $10,000 per Month) ($50/5,000 miles min $100)
4. [to 31 Dec 2017] HSBC Platinum Visa / Advance Platinum Visa / Premier World Master / Visa Signature / Green Card - 1 mile per $25 spent
VI C. Insurance Bill Payments
1. CCB HK Visa Infinite - 1 mile per $8 spent ($50 per 5,000 miles AM min $100)
2. CCB HK Platinum Visa / CCB HK Platinum Master / CCB HK Platinum Dual Currency UnionPay - 1 mile per $15 spent (Each Card Membership Year cap at 12 times of credit limit)
3. BoC Wealth Management Visa Infinite / BoC Platinum Visa & Master / BoC Platinum Dual Currency Unionpay - 1 mile per $15 spent (Each Card cap at $10,000 per Month) ($50/5,000 miles min $100)
4. HSBC Platinum Visa / Advance Platinum Visa / Premier World Master / Visa Signature / Green Card - 1 mile per $25 spent
VI D. Specific bill payment merchants who accept autopay for higher earn rates (by merchant)
1. Towngas autopay - Citi Prestige $6/mile
2. CLP autopay - Citi Prestige $6/mile, BEA $5/AM
3. HKE - DBS Black $6/AM
Note 1: Other issuers in Hong Kong DO NOT award bonus points for bill payment
VII. Octopus Automatic Add-Value
** ++ 1. Citibank Prestige - 1 mile per $6 spent (no redemption fee, $2,500 non-waiveable annual fee)
2. Bankcomm Diamond Dual Currency Card - 1 mile per HK$6 spent for $500 recharges, 1 mile per HK$12 spent for $250 recharges ($100 flat redemption fee)
3. SCB Asia Miles World Master - 1 mile per $6 spent (automatic conversion)
** 4. SCB Priority Banking Visa Infinite - 1 mile per $7.5 spent ($300 flat redemption fee)
5. BEA Flyer World Master / BEA Supreme Gold World Master - 1 mile per $8 spent (no fee) Note 3
6. CCB HK Visa Infinite - 1 mile per $8 spent ($50 per 5,000 miles AM min $100)
** ++ 7. Citibank Premiermiles - 1 mile per $8 spent (no fee)
8. Shacom World Master / Platinum / Titanium / Diamond UnionPay - 1 mile per $8 spent ($10 per 1,000AM min $100 max $500)
VIII. China Unionpay RMB spending
** ++1. [to 31 Dec 2017] HSBC Dual Currency Unionpay card - 1 mile per RMB4.16 spent (select China Spending category ONLY) ($300 fee for a year's worth of redemptions)
2. Bankcomm Diamond Dual Currency Card - 1 mile per RMB6 spent for restaurants or hotels spending >= RMB300, 1 per RMB12 spent other categories ($100 flat redemption fee)
3. Shacom Diamond UnionPay - 1 mile per $8 spent ($10 per 1,000AM min $100 max $500)
4. BoC Dual Currency Unionpay Card - 1 mile per RMB15 spent ($50/5,000 miles min $100)
IX. Electronic wallets
i. Payme https://forum.hongkongcard.com/forumSE/show/21076?page=108 #1071
ii. Wechat https://www.facebook.com/notes/%E9%87%8C%E6%95%B8%E8%91%97%E6%95%B8%E5%84%B2%E5%B E%97%E5%BF%AB/wechat-%E8%BD%89%E8%B3%AC-step-by-step/1793364737574888
iii. Alipay P2P https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/cathay-pacific-marco-polo-club/1812080-credit-card-asia-miles-earning-opportunities-hk-2017-a-77.html#post28934293
Note 2:
** can opt for Krisflyer miles in lieu
++ can opt for BAEC AVIOS in lieu
For HSBC, ONLY Premier World Master holders are able to opt for BAEC Avios and KrisFlyer Miles
Note 3:
BEA Supreme Gold World Master cardholders need to register in advance for the "BEA Mileage Reward" scheme during application (Supreme Gold account opening), or else pay $1800 penalty to register thereafter.
HK miles/hotel points earning ability
Refer to here
Credit card Asia Miles earning opportunities (HK) 2017
Jun 24, 2017, 3:09 am
#721
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Join Date: May 2009
Location: HKG
Programs: Non-top tier Asia Miles member
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I initially advocated using an Android phone cos it can run Android Pay, play my media collections and Android-only apps like HK Flight Info, but with drop-off of Android Pay offers and pretty high device requirements for Samsung Pay, I'm not so sure about one-Android-device-to-rule-them-all strategy
I contemplated trading up for the S8 wide screen but I want to maintain device lockstep with both my mothers for troubleshooting.
I contemplated trading up for the S8 wide screen but I want to maintain device lockstep with both my mothers for troubleshooting.
Jun 24, 2017, 3:35 am
#722
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Location: HKG
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Posts: 19,795
Cost of capital: 0.8% p.a.
Valuation of miles: $0.08/AM
Per $1 paid on 30.6.17
Extra miles earned (over 1.7.17 rate): 0.075 AM
= $0.006
Solving for months where my $100 interest foregone approximates miles gained $ amount = 0.006/0.008 x 12 = 9 months
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Revised cost of capital (I forgot what is the missus's promo savings rate): 1%
Revised valuation of miles after May-June incidents: $0.06
0.075 AM = $0.0045
New solving for months = 0.0045/0.01 x 12 = 5.4 months
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My HKE bill is under $400 a month even this summer...it's rates that's killing me, and the multiples of my bills that my parents rack up
Last edited by percysmith; Jun 24, 2017 at 3:59 am
Jun 24, 2017, 5:04 am
#723
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: Asia
Programs: IHG Spire, Accor Gold
Posts: 311
Sorry to hijack this thread, but speaking of Android... I am thinking of getting a new Asia miles card that works with Android Pay. I currently have a CX Amex and Citi Premiermiles, and neither one seems to work with Android Pay in Hong Kong. What would you guys recommend? From reading a bit on this forum, BEA and HSBC seem like decent options?
Hi Dmitriy,
The 'Standard Chartered Asia Miles Mastercard' works with Android Pay.
Earn rate may not be great but the sign-up bonus(es) could make it tempting. Am sure percysmith could advise much better.
[and if signing up before end of June I (like many others here) could provide you a sign-up link where we both get some extra miles.
]
Jun 24, 2017, 5:28 am
#724
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Location: HKG
Programs: Non-top tier Asia Miles member
Posts: 19,795
Scb am $4/am dining $6/am others. Same whether android pay or card present
Jun 25, 2017, 2:47 am
#725
Join Date: May 2017
Location: HK
Programs: MPC Diamond
Posts: 101
This promotion is another really badly termed promotion - how do they come up with these complex schemes?? I actually was reading it and trying to workout what they meant by "spend with lifestyle partners" and it got too convoluted so I can't be bothered for the minimal bonus.
1. You must earn/convert miles through your credit card (co-branded or otherwise), and
2. You must spend at one of their lifestyle partners (on the AM website) and ask for the mileage earn to be credited to your AM account separately (this would be received in addition to any mileage earn you receive from your credit card spending). I think this second category would include if you fly during the promotion period and credit to your AM account, or if you eat at one of their partner restaurants and meet the eligible spend requirement (generally HK$300). And it seems conversion of partner points into AM such as The Club would also count as "spending" at a lifestyle partner
But seriously, the explanation on the website and T&C is horrible. And the examples they gave of the three goals are not helpful at all...
On a more positive note, I was really surprised to see how many partner restaurants they have around my home/office (and some of them even places I eat from time to time). I will be using this to figure out where next to treat my colleagues!
Jun 25, 2017, 2:58 am
#726
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calf613:
1. My understanding too. Despite all of AM's tilting of the advertising towards co-branded card I think it's an awful way to run up the 30,000 AM because all your spending will have to be during the promotion period (compared to my simply converting already-accumulated non-cobranded credit card points into Asia Miles during the promotion period)
2. Fly, eat, The Club/Moneyback yes. I've converted 100AM into each of me and my parents' accounts.
3. Partner restaurants - they used to be horrible, but they have improved over time. Still, I think I only racked up one restaurant earn a year, despite not cooking at home.
1. My understanding too. Despite all of AM's tilting of the advertising towards co-branded card I think it's an awful way to run up the 30,000 AM because all your spending will have to be during the promotion period (compared to my simply converting already-accumulated non-cobranded credit card points into Asia Miles during the promotion period)
2. Fly, eat, The Club/Moneyback yes. I've converted 100AM into each of me and my parents' accounts.
3. Partner restaurants - they used to be horrible, but they have improved over time. Still, I think I only racked up one restaurant earn a year, despite not cooking at home.
Jun 25, 2017, 6:18 pm
#727
Join Date: Jan 2000
Posts: 3,208
I clearly need to review the wiki more often! Just realised my last school fees payment on the BEA WF won't earn any points. Should have paid using my HSBC card instead.
For RVD payments, are those considered tax or are those eligible to earn points with BEA?
Thanks
For RVD payments, are those considered tax or are those eligible to earn points with BEA?
Thanks
Jun 25, 2017, 8:39 pm
#728
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I got burned paying premiums with Prudential on Bankcomm Super Fun Spending Program https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/cath...l#post28034466 for last month - was excluded from promo. And I even rocked up to Prudential's centre in Causeway Bay to do it, and paid a surcharge.
(Before anyone asks:
- most insurance premiums can only be bill paid on banks' websites. Prudential is the obvious exception, though I chose the product first before thinking about payment.
- insurance is almost treated like cash advance because some enterprising (motivated) card jings have been drawing down policy loans against their insurance policies, and paying them down almost immediately for the credit card points/rebates
- many banks have set insurance bill payment rebate limits (HSBC, BoC, Hang Seng). In terms of miles, CCB leads with $8/AM for CCB VI and $15/AM for CCB Platinum
- if you can charge it online, using carbon copy form (initial premium) or over the counter like Prudential, BEA Flyer World $5/AM is now the miles card to go)
(Before anyone asks:
- most insurance premiums can only be bill paid on banks' websites. Prudential is the obvious exception, though I chose the product first before thinking about payment.
- insurance is almost treated like cash advance because some enterprising (motivated) card jings have been drawing down policy loans against their insurance policies, and paying them down almost immediately for the credit card points/rebates
- many banks have set insurance bill payment rebate limits (HSBC, BoC, Hang Seng). In terms of miles, CCB leads with $8/AM for CCB VI and $15/AM for CCB Platinum
- if you can charge it online, using carbon copy form (initial premium) or over the counter like Prudential, BEA Flyer World $5/AM is now the miles card to go)
Jun 28, 2017, 9:16 am
#729
Join Date: May 2017
Location: HK
Programs: MPC Diamond
Posts: 101
Question on the BoComm HK Super Fun Spending Rewards Program:
I've just realized that I need to change my itinerary for a trip I booked previously, which will result in me needing to cancel and refund one of the flights I booked during one phase of this program. Now, I can wait until after the points are awarded in August (for Phase 3) before I cancel, but I see that the T&C of the program state that if you cancel a transaction that was used to calculate your spending for the promotion after they award the bonus points, they reserve the right to debit the amount equivalent to the value of the points from your card. Does anyone know how strict they are with this in practice?
I've just realized that I need to change my itinerary for a trip I booked previously, which will result in me needing to cancel and refund one of the flights I booked during one phase of this program. Now, I can wait until after the points are awarded in August (for Phase 3) before I cancel, but I see that the T&C of the program state that if you cancel a transaction that was used to calculate your spending for the promotion after they award the bonus points, they reserve the right to debit the amount equivalent to the value of the points from your card. Does anyone know how strict they are with this in practice?
Jun 28, 2017, 9:34 am
#730
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I had a similar situation but had to be dealt with in same phase.
I made up the spending, but looking at the posted transactions now, I wondered whether I had to?
2017-05-21 2017-05-24 CATHAYPACAIR1602359501 HONG KONG HK 1,665.00
2017-05-21 2017-05-24 CATHAYPACAIR1914954605 HONG KONG HK 312.00
2017-05-21 2017-06-03 CATHAYPACAIR0002359501 HONG KONG HK -1,665.00
2017-05-21 2017-06-09 CATHAYPACAIR0001556505 HONG KONG HK -312.00
I'd imagine they'd match by merchant name-description, and cases like these two pairs will be very difficult to match
I made up the spending, but looking at the posted transactions now, I wondered whether I had to?
2017-05-21 2017-05-24 CATHAYPACAIR1602359501 HONG KONG HK 1,665.00
2017-05-21 2017-05-24 CATHAYPACAIR1914954605 HONG KONG HK 312.00
2017-05-21 2017-06-03 CATHAYPACAIR0002359501 HONG KONG HK -1,665.00
2017-05-21 2017-06-09 CATHAYPACAIR0001556505 HONG KONG HK -312.00
I'd imagine they'd match by merchant name-description, and cases like these two pairs will be very difficult to match
Jun 29, 2017, 10:32 am
#731
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BEA Flyer World AAVS and bill payment $5/AM --> $8/AM w.e.f. 1 July 2017
Bill pay and fax your change of AAVS forms to the three $6/mile $500 recharge banks
Last edited by percysmith; Jun 29, 2017 at 10:42 am
Jun 29, 2017, 11:21 pm
#732
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: HKG/YVR
Programs: MPO, Aeroplan, SPG
Posts: 183
Sorry, does anyone know if SCB AM card obtains miles from using the HSBC Payme app method?
Jun 30, 2017, 12:22 am
#734
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: HKG/YVR
Programs: MPO, Aeroplan, SPG
Posts: 183
Jun 30, 2017, 3:41 am
#735
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Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Hong Kong
Programs: None any more
Posts: 11,017
Really? I guess at least percysmith would know.
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