Jun 19, 2017, 9:34 pm
Last edit by: ernestnywang
oneworld Multi-Carrier Awards Wiki v0.1
Rules
1. You need two non CX/KA carriers
2. You are allowed 5 stopovers, 2 transits (<=24hrs) and 2 open jaws. You can use your stopover allowance as a transit, possibly by asking for it to be ticketed as such (extra taxes?). [Using stopover for transit is no longer possible since 2021/22?]
3. The open-jaw points do not count towards your stopover allowance. Neither does the final city on the itinerary
4. You must start and end in the same country.
5. To determine the miles required, add up all flight sectors on your itinerary and look up the award chart (ignore the distance between open-jaw points). gcmap.com is handy, though best to go via asiamiles' calculator.
6. Co-terminals (NRT/HND, LHR/LCY) do not count as an open-jaw (takes up 1 stopover/transit allowance).
If an itinerary clears the above, it is valid, though you may have to argue a lot back and forth. Keep your patience suit on and and keep referring to the terms & conditions ("What in the T&Cs makes this invalid" tends to work).
For the examples below, x=transit, o=stopover, and capitalized alphabets represent airports.
Some valid routings that have commonly been pushed back on
1. "You cannot go through the start, destination, or enroute point more than once". A-oB-oA-oC-oD-A is a valid itinerary.
2. "An open-jaw point is a stopover". A-oB-oC-D//E-oF-G//H-oI-oJ-A is valid, as is A-oB-xC-D//E-oF-G//H-xI-oJ-oK-oL-A.
Other tips
1. Tickets are valid for 1 year from the date of issuance. Potentially a pain when planning that dream RTW trip involving LATAM/AA which release seats 330 days out, that you're trying to tee-in with CX award seats released a year out.
2. A combination of BA/AA/LATAM/QF sites works well to research availability (look for saver availability)
3. You can go crazy on the routings- A-oB-A//C-oD-C//E-A is fine if A,B,E are in country/Region # 1, and, C,D are at the other end of the world.
Rules
1. You need two non CX/KA carriers
2. You are allowed 5 stopovers, 2 transits (<=24hrs) and 2 open jaws. You can use your stopover allowance as a transit, possibly by asking for it to be ticketed as such (extra taxes?). [Using stopover for transit is no longer possible since 2021/22?]
3. The open-jaw points do not count towards your stopover allowance. Neither does the final city on the itinerary
4. You must start and end in the same country.
5. To determine the miles required, add up all flight sectors on your itinerary and look up the award chart (ignore the distance between open-jaw points). gcmap.com is handy, though best to go via asiamiles' calculator.
6. Co-terminals (NRT/HND, LHR/LCY) do not count as an open-jaw (takes up 1 stopover/transit allowance).
If an itinerary clears the above, it is valid, though you may have to argue a lot back and forth. Keep your patience suit on and and keep referring to the terms & conditions ("What in the T&Cs makes this invalid" tends to work).
For the examples below, x=transit, o=stopover, and capitalized alphabets represent airports.
Some valid routings that have commonly been pushed back on
1. "You cannot go through the start, destination, or enroute point more than once". A-oB-oA-oC-oD-A is a valid itinerary.
2. "An open-jaw point is a stopover". A-oB-oC-D//E-oF-G//H-oI-oJ-A is valid, as is A-oB-xC-D//E-oF-G//H-xI-oJ-oK-oL-A.
Other tips
1. Tickets are valid for 1 year from the date of issuance. Potentially a pain when planning that dream RTW trip involving LATAM/AA which release seats 330 days out, that you're trying to tee-in with CX award seats released a year out.
2. A combination of BA/AA/LATAM/QF sites works well to research availability (look for saver availability)
3. You can go crazy on the routings- A-oB-A//C-oD-C//E-A is fine if A,B,E are in country/Region # 1, and, C,D are at the other end of the world.
oneworld Multi-Carrier Awards - sharing ideas
Apr 18, 2018, 5:58 pm
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Apr 19, 2018, 10:39 pm
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Apr 21, 2018, 9:35 pm
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I think this is possible but would I would like to confirm with the community here. Is my understanding correct in that I can first book a one way ticket online (360 days out) (point A to B) and then when partner space opens up 330 days in advance convert that into a multi-carrier award ticket by calling up the call centre (point B to C to D to A)?
Update for those interested (25/4): I called up AM and they said that a one-way ticket can be converted into a one-world multi-carrier ticket without penalty if the one-way flight is CX. If not, the partner ticket must be cancelled (fee of USD120 or 12,000 AM per ticket) and a new ticket issued with all the other segments attached.
Update for those interested (25/4): I called up AM and they said that a one-way ticket can be converted into a one-world multi-carrier ticket without penalty if the one-way flight is CX. If not, the partner ticket must be cancelled (fee of USD120 or 12,000 AM per ticket) and a new ticket issued with all the other segments attached.
Last edited by lifeonthego_k; Apr 26, 2018 at 10:22 am Reason: update
Apr 26, 2018, 3:23 am
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MP agent correct https://www.asiamiles.com/en/redeem-...ersawardschart
Apr 27, 2018, 11:30 pm
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Apr 28, 2018, 8:59 am
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Hope that someone can help with this.
Is this valid:
LHR-HND // KIX-HKG-LHR-CDG // BRU-LHR-BCN-MAD-xLGW-xCDG-LHR (CX, IB, BA)
A friend says it is (he is planning this trip) but I am not sure as the last two transfers seem to involve a roundtrip. Is that fine?
Thank you
Is this valid:
LHR-HND // KIX-HKG-LHR-CDG // BRU-LHR-BCN-MAD-xLGW-xCDG-LHR (CX, IB, BA)
A friend says it is (he is planning this trip) but I am not sure as the last two transfers seem to involve a roundtrip. Is that fine?
Thank you
Last edited by IncyWincy; Apr 28, 2018 at 9:14 am