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HKG: Exiting the airport after going to the lounge

Old Feb 19, 19, 12:10 am
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Originally Posted by tentseller View Post
Just a data point on leaving CX pier to head home in HK.

There was massive late evening delay with CX/KA on Jan 27, my 2000 departure HKG KUL was delayed and when the new flight was announced at 0045 Jan 28 at 845pm I decide to pack it in and fly out the next morning.
Counter staff made all my fight changes in 5 minutes and I was then immediately escorted via a waiting cart to just before the immigration gates.

Base on my datapoint they are taking their time filing these visit lounge and then leave airside for HK request.
noone suggested that your request to leave airside was a security breach and illegal, that you dont intend to fly anymore on your original booked flight?
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Old Feb 19, 19, 12:21 am
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Originally Posted by percysmith View Post
There is a way for CX to crack down on this, and allow for emergencies.

Make any passenger wishing to exit airport cancel their onward check-in, force them to pick up any bags they make have checked thorugh and then force them to rebook.
Actually I wonder why HKIA hasn't done this.

P.S. in light of LH case, reprice their ticket too as if curtailed journey!
all they really need to do is having checks to forbid anyone with a transit flight to exit airside (like what every check-in agent say when you have a transit point on your ticket) regardless of emergencies. at the same time they should also assist the immigrations office to hunt down the chinese citizens who has dual citizenship to prison them since it is against the chinese constitution (first and foremost they are chinese) in which their AOC is domiciled, and hunt down on people who hasnt got an onward ticket which shows they may overstay a visa.

or all of that is just some made-up joke/rule
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Old Feb 19, 19, 12:21 am
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Originally Posted by uncommonsensical View Post
i've been there when there were irrops that substantially delayed flights and people have left for a hotel- OBVIOUSLY.

are you even aware of how big of an 'inconvenience' this is to them?
When there are irrops they have staff to manage those irrops, including getting people out of the airport and to hotels (or home).

If a passenger is entering the departures hall to have eggs benedict and a shower, there is no dedicated member of staff to assist getting them out again. So the passenger wanting a leisurly breakfast has to wait. That's fair enough. The lounges aren't arrivals lounges, passengers know that. Yes they can still do it, but there's a small price to pay (you have to wait to be escorted out).
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Old Feb 19, 19, 12:55 am
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Originally Posted by uncommonsensical View Post
I've been in that same lounge when i decided just to stay in the airport vs get a hotel (arrived 9pm with a 6am connection) and had the same snotty agents ask me why i don't just get a hotel for the night (which would obviously require the same escort)- so i don't think it's a bfd.
Are the "snotty" agents referring to you having taken a wrong turn by coming up to departures?

I don't see their intention of actually facilitating your return to arrivals.

Originally Posted by uncommonsensical View Post
i've been there when there were irrops that substantially delayed flights and people have left for a hotel- OBVIOUSLY.

are you even aware of how big of an 'inconvenience' this is to them?
If you have genuine IRROPs then that's fine - they get to tag you against that IRROPs.

And as LHR/MEL/Europe FF mentioned - it is someone's proper job to actually do that.

It is trying to depart exit area without IRROPs that is to be discouraged.

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Old Feb 19, 19, 1:05 am
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Originally Posted by percysmith View Post
Are the "snotty" agents referring to you having taken a wrong turn by coming up to departures?

I don't see their intention of actually facilitating your return to arrivals.



If you have genuine IRROPs then that's fine - they get to tag you against that IRROPs.

And as LHR/MEL/Europe FF mentioned - it is someone's proper job to actually do that.

It is trying to depart exit area without IRROPs that is to be discouraged.
its encouraged upthread by cx staff
if they dont actually mean it, that would be a genuine case of having an attitude and thats a disgrace
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Not sure why they care, however

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Originally Posted by kaka View Post
its encouraged upthread by cx staff

Not sure why they care, however
Wrong
This is what was said:

Originally Posted by uncommonsensical View Post
I've been in that same lounge when i decided just to stay in the airport vs get a hotel (arrived 9pm with a 6am connection) and had the same snotty agents ask me why i don't just get a hotel for the night
This is a false assumption by uncommonsensical - the snotty agents have no intention of providing or acting as that escort.

Originally Posted by uncommonsensical View Post
(which would obviously require the same escort)
Simply put - the first statement should be read as "why I don't head straight to arrivals after deplaning and just get a hotel for the night"

Chinese have a way of abstracting words Checked-in baggage screening in Taipei - "看行李"
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Old Feb 19, 19, 1:15 am
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Originally Posted by percysmith View Post
Wrong
This is what was said:



This is a false assumption by uncommonsensical - the snotty agents have no intention of providing or acting as that escort.



Simply put - the first statement should be read as "why I don't head straight to arrivals after deplaning and just get a hotel for the night"

Chinese have a way of abstracting words Checked-in baggage screening in Taipei - "看行李"
that is an attitude like it or not and is inviting someone to do it

i dont see the point of them suggesting it

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Old Feb 19, 19, 1:18 am
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Attitude yes invtation no.

It's a bit like me telling you (I did frequently) "love it or leave". I have no intention of setting up your life outside HK (you have overseas nationality already).
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Old Feb 19, 19, 1:26 am
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Originally Posted by percysmith View Post
Attitude yes invtation no.

It's a bit like me telling you (I did frequently) "love it or leave". I have no intention of setting up your life outside HK (you have overseas nationality already).
its up to the receiver to take it literally or not and not the giver.

whilst we are mates for this sort of banter, i dont see the point of giving such comments in the first class lounge if they dont mean it.

as a result, these staff do have a problem w the attitude

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Originally Posted by percysmith View Post
Wrong
This is what was said:



This is a false assumption by uncommonsensical - the snotty agents have no intention of providing or acting as that escort.



Simply put - the first statement should be read as "why I don't head straight to arrivals after deplaning and just get a hotel for the night"

Chinese have a way of abstracting words Checked-in baggage screening in Taipei - "看行李"
your ability to go into such detail as to the intricacies of a conversation that occurred between people you don't know and that did not happen in your presence is, frankly, astounding.

it will come as a shock to you that in this instance, probably for the first time in your life, your Nostradamus abilities fell short. nonetheless, your confidence in your abilities has given ME confidence in your abilities. ergo... wondering who will win the Kentucky Derby this year?

your powers notwithstanding, curious as to your putting "snotty" in quotes- have you not been to this lounge?!? I've been there 35-40x minimum and i've yet to experience anything but snotty from the greeters- and my observation isn't exactly an outlier. in contrast, everyone else in the lounge, without exception, has always been pleasant. further, I've yet to have anything but a wonderful cabin crew on a CX flight (though i've heard this excellence is changing). but, as for the glorified greeters, "snotty" is a filtered word to suit the tender sensibilities of the likes of you- there are more apt adjectives that apply...
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Old Feb 19, 19, 2:09 am
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Originally Posted by uncommonsensical View Post
your ability to go into such detail as to the intricacies of a conversation that occurred between people you don't know and that did not happen in your presence is, frankly, astounding.

it will come as a shock to you that in this instance, probably for the first time in your life, your Nostradamus abilities fell short. nonetheless, your confidence in your abilities has given ME confidence in your abilities. ergo... wondering who will win the Kentucky Derby this year?

your powers notwithstanding, curious as to your putting "snotty" in quotes- have you not been to this lounge?!? I've been there 35-40x minimum and i've yet to experience anything but snotty from the greeters- and my observation isn't exactly an outlier. in contrast, everyone else in the lounge, without exception, has always been pleasant. further, I've yet to have anything but a wonderful cabin crew on a CX flight (though i've heard this excellence is changing). but, as for the glorified greeters, "snotty" is a filtered word to suit the tender sensibilities of the likes of you- there are more apt adjectives that apply...
for some reason i agree w you, esp for the wing.
they rotate around but once they are at the wing, their attitude bugs me

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Old Feb 19, 19, 2:42 am
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Originally Posted by kaka View Post

for some reason i agree w you, esp for the wing.
they rotate around but once their are at the wing, their attitude bugs me
yep. i've only gotten that attitude a couple of times at the pier (i just assume they were scheduled in the wrong place for the day!).

i much prefer the pier. I really only go to the wing for the cabanas. the showers elsewhere are small and invariably get steamed up so you're sweating after a shower- yuck. everything else is better at the pier- and it's a healthy/needed walk between the two.

thing is, i never planned to go into the city that day. i hadn't slept much the night before and was just going to take a nap at the pier and chill. i ended up not as tired as i thought i'd be and saw it was a beautiful day in HKG and decided it would be stupid to spend it in an airport. so, yeah, not the nefarious premeditated crime lurking in the fertile imaginations of FT SJWs.
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Old Feb 19, 19, 3:31 am
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I have copied the most recent factual posts to a new thread since this one has old information and has become circuitous.

If if anyone has facts and helpful information then please post there.

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