New KA First Class
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New KA First Class
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New KA First Class
Is First Class really necessary for KA given only regional flight..? Even CX to Aussie dropped First long time ago...
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Aussie is (again, from economics perspective, not pax perspective), bluntly, a poor-yielding F route, hence it got dropped. Lots of competition, mid/long range (9+ hours) means more incremental fuel burn, and there just aren't enough folks willing to shell out USA-like prices for F (15k+ USD). Everything is an opportunity cost and I just don't think it's worth it for CX to send F configged planes down there. It certainly doesn't justify using an elite config like the 77H down to Oz when you probably can't price that F ticket more than 7-8k USD tops or risk having empty cabins. Even then I think you'd be pushing it, you can get J down to SYD for 4-6k USD. Competition is just too fierce and there aren't enough pax with the type of budget versus, say JFK-bound pax.
Versus KA, they've already got F configged planes, but the F class hard product kinda sucks. This will definitely be an improvement, and I bet it doesn't cost CX/KA a whole lot because they already have the seat contract with CX. Maybe the planes were going in for maintenance/refurbs anyway.
Finally, as for Webb...I really enjoy reading that guy's stuff, unfortunately that post of his was ridiculous. Embarrassing. "Title inflation". Go complain about something more substantial. FWIW, count me as a pax that is stoked that KA is using CX's J class for their F. As mentioned above, this is definitely an upgrade from KA's existing F product. I don't expect CX's F when I'm flying a 3 hour flight to PEK. What a clown.
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Existing first - http://www.dragonair.com/ka/en_HK/tr...rst-class.html
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yes but they may need more than CX first class capacity to that route than available- they are not nuts
is great KA chose a new first class instead of repeating the business class
those who dislike this drastic improvement of product can go fly China southern!!
is great KA chose a new first class instead of repeating the business class
those who dislike this drastic improvement of product can go fly China southern!!