Intra-Asia F routes
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If you're talking about soft product - then argue away
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Sometimes KA sells F and the first half of J as "J," and use the second half of J as "Y."
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CX615 offering F HKG-BKK in Dec
Hi all, was delighted to see on a random browse of ExpertFlyer that there was an aircraft change from 333 to 77W on my AA F award HKG-BKK. Better, QF website confirmed there was F award availability.
Rebooking in into the F cabin was a breeze by the AAngel, but I'm intrigued that F seems to be very uncommon HKG-BKK.
A dummy booking shows CX is selling F, so I presume This will be a standard Intra-Asia F experience. Any comment or observations on this? I'm quite chuffed, but can't help feeling somewhat cautious things will change!
Cheers TK
Rebooking in into the F cabin was a breeze by the AAngel, but I'm intrigued that F seems to be very uncommon HKG-BKK.
A dummy booking shows CX is selling F, so I presume This will be a standard Intra-Asia F experience. Any comment or observations on this? I'm quite chuffed, but can't help feeling somewhat cautious things will change!
Cheers TK
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I had a JFK-BKK award for December with a long connection in HKG so kept an eye on the earlier flight to open up. About a week ago not only did space open on the morning CX flght but like you said it was a plane swap and had F availbility so I switched to it. Hopefully it won't change again. Usually it's the other way around book F and it goes away as planes swap to one without F cabin.
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Yes, it will be a standard F experience. Assuming that they don't change the aircraft again, which is entirely possible.
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I guess in the very worst case my F ticket will allow me into the F lounge, even if the aircraft changes back to J+Y two class cabin.....or will it?!
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As for your flight, BKK is not "very uncommon" to have F. A more precise way of putting it would be say to say F is very unpredictable to/from BKK, particularly compared to LH destinations where you can be assured of F. About the only regional destinations CX seems dedicated to serving consistently with paid F are Japan routes, and I suspect that's because it's probably the only regional destination with consistent paid (cash) demand for F tix with HKG as beginning/end of the journey. It seems from reading on here most F pax to/from DPS/BKK/MNL etc are transiting HKIA and/or on awards. which tells me that's probably low revenue (from CX's point of view) utilization of the F cabin. So CX basically treats those routes as the first to play ring-around-the-rosie with aircraft type whenever needs arise. But indeed CX does regularly put F cabins (sometimes as 2-class, others as 3) on BKK/TPE/MNL/SGN routes and you can get those seats with strategizing and a bit of luck.
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I'm not 100% sure, but from reading on here it sounds like a virtual lock if you're coming in on an F flight where only J is offered on the next flight. But if you are originating HKG and had a F award or something but got downgraded due to aircraft swap, I suspect if you have enough paperwork there with you they'll just let you in regardless heaps of people here have asked something similar so maybe they'll chime in or you can search.
As for your flight, BKK is not "very uncommon" to have F. A more precise way of putting it would be say to say F is very unpredictable to/from BKK, particularly compared to LH destinations where you can be assured of F. About the only regional destinations CX seems dedicated to serving consistently with paid F are Japan routes, and I suspect that's because it's probably the only regional destination with consistent paid (cash) demand for F tix with HKG as beginning/end of the journey. It seems from reading on here most F pax to/from DPS/BKK/MNL etc are transiting HKIA and/or on awards. which tells me that's probably low revenue (from CX's point of view) utilization of the F cabin. So CX basically treats those routes as the first to play ring-around-the-rosie with aircraft type whenever needs arise. But indeed CX does regularly put F cabins (sometimes as 2-class, others as 3) on BKK/TPE/MNL/SGN routes and you can get those seats with strategizing and a bit of luck.
As for your flight, BKK is not "very uncommon" to have F. A more precise way of putting it would be say to say F is very unpredictable to/from BKK, particularly compared to LH destinations where you can be assured of F. About the only regional destinations CX seems dedicated to serving consistently with paid F are Japan routes, and I suspect that's because it's probably the only regional destination with consistent paid (cash) demand for F tix with HKG as beginning/end of the journey. It seems from reading on here most F pax to/from DPS/BKK/MNL etc are transiting HKIA and/or on awards. which tells me that's probably low revenue (from CX's point of view) utilization of the F cabin. So CX basically treats those routes as the first to play ring-around-the-rosie with aircraft type whenever needs arise. But indeed CX does regularly put F cabins (sometimes as 2-class, others as 3) on BKK/TPE/MNL/SGN routes and you can get those seats with strategizing and a bit of luck.
Tried booking an AA F award, mainly to try QF F SYD-HKG. Planned route was WLG (QF J) - SYD (QF F) - HKG (CX F) - SIN (CX J) - BKK. However AA said sectors HKG-SIN-BKK were somehow regional 'backtracking' even though within MPM+25%, so went with the HKG-BKK on CX J (no F offered on any flight. Oh, forced overnight in HKG between QF 127 arrival 17:30 hrs and departure CX615 at 10:00 next day. But I have a TG hotel award, so covered.
So very pleased to see and equipment change from 333 to 77W, and then with an F award available.
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