CX resumes salary negotiation w/ FA union. Possible industrial action if ends badly
Oct 23, 2010, 6:07 pm
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CX resumes salary negotiation w/ FA union. Possible industrial action if ends badly
According to a Hong Kong newspaper Apple Daily, CX will resume talk with FAU next Tuesday. The last negotiation was 10 years ago. CX tends not to give too much raise and would like to use a scheme that reflects the company performance, e.g. through bonuses. FAU stresses the raise can't be less than inflation and might work with KA's union and consider taking industrial actions in Dec.
Oct 24, 2010, 4:52 am
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I don't like how FAU starts talking about industrial actions even before the negotiation begins. Do they really have to threaten to strike and use that as their bargaining power every time
Oct 24, 2010, 11:44 am
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Also, i'm not flying CX any soon
Oct 24, 2010, 12:32 pm
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Any news link to show the difference between FAU and CX? I guess now we know CX will offer 2-3%, how much do FAU want? 5%? 10%?
Oct 31, 2010, 5:06 pm
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According to today's Apple Daily, the negotiations didn't go well and both pilots and flight attendants unions might strike
Nov 9, 2010, 4:05 pm
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According to today's Apple Daily, FAU set Dec 6 2010 as the deadline for CX to give them a satisfactory reply about their raises. If not, they will decide what to do next with their members.
Nov 16, 2010, 2:43 pm
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http://news.mingpao.com/20101117/gma1h.htm (article in Chinese)
CX will give FAs 4-4.5% raise and will give out bonuses (an extra month of salary (雙糧) plus bonus equals to at least 5 weeks of salary) this year. CX claims this is the most generous raise in the last 10 years.
But FAU is still not satisfied and claims CX is just playing with numbers. In fact they are only giving those contractors 1.5% raise, way below of the 7% they asked for. They request more negotiations.
Looks like there's still a big gap between the two parties.
Below are quotes from Apple Daily (in Chinese)
Basically says FAU is disappointed. In 2007, CX only had half of this year's profits but they received 5-5.6% raise. But this year they have huge profit but give out so little raise. If the union members are not satisfied with the raise, they will consider taking industrial actions during X'mas.
CX will give FAs 4-4.5% raise and will give out bonuses (an extra month of salary (雙糧) plus bonus equals to at least 5 weeks of salary) this year. CX claims this is the most generous raise in the last 10 years.
But FAU is still not satisfied and claims CX is just playing with numbers. In fact they are only giving those contractors 1.5% raise, way below of the 7% they asked for. They request more negotiations.
Looks like there's still a big gap between the two parties.
Below are quotes from Apple Daily (in Chinese)
國泰空中服務員工會對加薪幅度表示失望。工會主席黎玉嬋說，國泰 07年盈利只及今年一半，但當年的加薪幅度達 5至 5.6%，「公司今年賺咁多，但人工加咁少。」她說，稍後會諮詢會員意見，若會員不接受加薪幅度，不排除在 聖誕節發動工業行動抗爭。
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Nov 16, 2010, 2:45 pm
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Nov 17, 2010, 2:16 am
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Mr Tyler added that through the combination of profit share, discretionary 13th month payment and salary increments, staff will be significantly better off than they were last year. “This is just as it should be when our business is so strong,” he said, adding that the Local Staff Union has agreed to the package.
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Nov 17, 2010, 3:56 am
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Paying a discretionary bonus and having the annual adjustment kept at a minimum is always a good way of keeping the cost base low in the long term. Given that most of the FA these days don't see their time with CX as a long term career they should be happy about the deal offered. Would they prefer 10% but no 13th month + 5 weeks?
Nov 17, 2010, 8:00 am
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Nov 17, 2010, 2:32 pm
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What a perfect storm....FAU and pilot union might strike...and now union HAESL (the company responsible for aircraft maintenance) might take industrial actions too
http://news.mingpao.com/20101118/ggb1.htm (From HK newspaper Ming Pao Daily, article in Chinese)
http://news.mingpao.com/20101118/ggb1.htm (From HK newspaper Ming Pao Daily, article in Chinese)
Nov 18, 2010, 2:05 am
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I need advice from posters following the situation with those planned actions. I hold a double booking for my family trip back to Europe for Xmas. I need to issue tickets soon. One is more expensive CX. I would favor CX unless there is a real chance of industrial action. What would the VX experts say: 5% chance, 10%, ?
